More GLAMOUR PLATES, please!

Please give us more glamour plates. 20 is not enough compared to the number of jobs and professions.
There's 800 limit in the glamour dresser now and we can barely plate any of them.
Glamour is endgame. Please update. Thank you/

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

FFXIV has many shortcomings but this is the biggest one I really can't let go or defend.

7.0 is around the corner, 2 more jobs coming. There will be 22 jobs and 11 professions - and yet we still have only 20 plates.

How difficult could it be to match that? Or make it 50 slots!

Glamour is endgame. Myself and others raid for fancy weapons and dyable gear. Myself and others grind duties and PVP to get specific set pieces. Myself and others grind gil to buy and use glamour.

There's 800 limit in the glamour dresser now and we can barely plate any of them.

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I'd like to think that it might be next on the radar after the recent super-expansion of gearset numbers.

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

I'd like to think that it might be next on the radar after the recent super-expansion of gearset numbers.

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"super expansion" lmao

yall really are happy with the most minuscule things that they do

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

"super expansion" lmao

yall really are happy with the most minuscule things that they do

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Yes. Sudden jump from 29 (was it 29? I forget) to 100 seems really out of the left field, when they could have done notably less (something like 50) and it would be recieved just as well. Frankly, I'm surprised they went for such unnecessarily high number, hence why I used hyperbole to refer to it.

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

Yes. Sudden jump from 29 (was it 29? I forget) to 100 seems really out of the left field, when they could have done notably less (something like 50) and it would be recieved just as well. Frankly, I'm surprised they went for such unnecessarily high number, hence why I used hyperbole to refer to it.

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The day they put up glamour plates to a much bigger number, we'll get somewhere ,until then honestly its absolutely pointless because it's limited by inventory space, you can have 100 gear sets but you need to have the glamour pieces on you to swap out to them so it doesnt do anything at all

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The day they put up glamour plates to a much bigger number, we'll get somewhere ,until then honestly its absolutely pointless because it's limited by inventory space, you can have 100 gear sets but you need to have the glamour pieces on you to swap out to them so it doesnt do anything at all

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Exactly. It seems pointless to go for such high number, hence my belief that it is a preparation for changes/expansion something else thats related to gearsets, and between Portraits and Glamour Plates, I doubt portraits are getting some significant alteration in regards to that.

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

Exactly. It seems pointless to go for such high number, hence my belief that it is a preparation for changes/expansion something else thats related to gearsets, and between Portraits and Glamour Plates, I doubt portraits are getting some significant alteration in regards to that.

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Interesting idea.

Probably one day. People who love defending the status quo for whatever reason or people who love just dunking on CBU3 will come in and unironically say it's a technical issue like they work at CBU3 or something, but time proves these arguments wrong a lot. For example, in the housing forum they all said instanced housing was impossible due to technical limitations, but now we have instanced front yards on our instanced islands. Or when people asked for more glamour dresser space, we were told "server limitations" by these players who are just as ignorant as the rest of us but like to pretend to know things, and then one day the devs just randomly handed us more glam dresser space.

Basically, just ask for it and don't look at the comments because nobody knows anything and not even Square seems to really know much because sometimes their own devs will say a thing is impossible and then proceed to just do it a year later. Might just be tech getting better, or maybe they just learn how to do more with less, but yeah. I sound like a pessimist a lot on these forums, but this is actually something I'm optimistic about. I think the game can continue to get minor quality of life improvements if the trends we've seen so far continue. Now having said that, I don't actually think they read our forums so you might have to pay someone to post it in Japanese so someone important reads it. Like, I genuinely believe the English forums have been abandoned at this point. Ever since that guy was in here posting pics of himself in a kitty cage and it just stayed up for a week, I legit just lost hope in this place being read by anyone who mattered.

I wonder if the people who code ff14 went to the same school as the people who code D4 stash tab ... :3

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Basically, just ask for it and don't look at the comments because nobody knows anything and not even Square seems to really know much because sometimes their own devs will say a thing is impossible and then proceed to just do it a year later. Might just be tech getting better, or maybe they just learn how to do more with less, but yeah.

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I'm not sure if SE use Kanban board or SCRUM methodology but i would blame that.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Probably one day. People who love defending the status quo for whatever reason or people who love just dunking on CBU3 will come in and unironically say it's a technical issue like they work at CBU3 or something, but time proves these arguments wrong a lot. For example, in the housing forum they all said instanced housing was impossible due to technical limitations, but now we have instanced front yards on our instanced islands. Or when people asked for more glamour dresser space, we were told "server limitations" by these players who are just as ignorant as the rest of us but like to pretend to know things, and then one day the devs just randomly handed us more glam dresser space.

Basically, just ask for it and don't look at the comments because nobody knows anything and not even Square seems to really know much because sometimes their own devs will say a thing is impossible and then proceed to just do it a year later. Might just be tech getting better, or maybe they just learn how to do more with less, but yeah. I sound like a pessimist a lot on these forums, but this is actually something I'm optimistic about. I think the game can continue to get minor quality of life improvements if the trends we've seen so far continue. Now having said that, I don't actually think they read our forums so you might have to pay someone to post it in Japanese so someone important reads it. Like, I genuinely believe the English forums have been abandoned at this point. Ever since that guy was in here posting pics of himself in a kitty cage and it just stayed up for a week, I legit just lost hope in this place being read by anyone who mattered.

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When interviewed in early ShB, YoshiP was asked about getting more glamour storage available. His response at that point was basically(to paraphrase), "It's something we'd like to do, but we don't really have the tech/resources at the moment." Given recent increases in the amount of glam storage and glam plates, I'd say they were able to find/get more of whatever they needed. Although the last interviews I heard that asked about the glamour systems left with me the impression that they might be working on replacing the existing system rather than continuing to apply band-aids to the already existing one.

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

Yes. Sudden jump from 29 (was it 29? I forget) to 100 seems really out of the left field, when they could have done notably less (something like 50) and it would be recieved just as well. Frankly, I'm surprised they went for such unnecessarily high number, hence why I used hyperbole to refer to it.

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The old number depended on how many classes and jobs you had unlocked.

My understanding is that they are stored client-side so they're basically free to add as many as they want and don't need to worry about server space for them, so they might as well go for the high number.

I've been using them to mark out gearsets I'm collecting so I don't accidentally hand them into the GC deposit.

I'd rather they came out and said 'we are not doing any glamor system updates for quite a while, because we're going to be doing a full overhaul that will make the system less janky, please give us some time thank for understand' because constantly putting band aids on the dreadful system we have now sucks both for the players and the devs. Moving the system over to an 'appearances catalog' style system, even if it takes time, would be way more futureproofed than the current system

I’d be surprised if it’s not increased soonish, if only to keep it in line with the number of combat jobs.

They are QoL things why wouldn't people be happy about small things if they make the game more enjoyable?

Yeah it sucks to use the same glam for DoH and DoL because we don't have enough for all possible Jobs to have one.

I think it's ridiculous how we don't have one glam plate per job (including gatherer and crafter)

I wouldn't be surprised if it really was a technical issue having to do with the way items/plates load whenever you enter an instanced area. But that doesn't mean I can excuse it either. FFXIV's spaghetti code is still bogging it down even 10 years later, and I hope more strides are made to undo the damage. The entire glamour system is a mess and way too limiting

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Originally Posted by Syln

I wonder if the people who code ff14 went to the same school as the people who code D4 stash tab ... :3

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Oh so you've heard about that. Considering the quick coding fixes this game made in the past, I feel like this is more likely lol

Ideally there should be one plate for every job, including the DOH/DOL jobs. I was hopeful when they increased the storage limit to 800 and gave us a few extra plates. But it’s still not enough. lol

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Ideally there should be one plate for every job, including the DOH/DOL jobs. I was hopeful when they increased the storage limit to 800 and gave us a few extra plates. But it’s still not enough. lol

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I would say at least one extra so you can still try things out after you have all your jobs set up, and also for fashion report.

It's always an excuse on the coding/resources.

The amount of craftable gear, mogstore items, quest rewards, beast tribe, job gear, raid/dungeon gear. There is simply not enough available space.
Why is only the original 50 job gear in the armoire? And if you augment the original artifact gear, suddenly it has to go into the dresser? Why can't we put all (50/60/70/80/90) job gear in the armoire, whether its augmented, idealized or whatever? Same with specific DoH/DoL class gear. What possible limitation is there, that they can't do that?
And yea, for those of us who like to have their DoH/DoL each have a unique look. Oh, sorry, now you only have 9 plates available. For 20 different jobs. And then tough luck if you want to have a casual look, a beach look and a silly frog-suit glam.

It's frustrating

WoW's transmog system is just better. Glam truly is endgame and not having a robust system to support that is just disappointing.

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

It's always an excuse on the coding/resources.

The amount of craftable gear, mogstore items, quest rewards, beast tribe, job gear, raid/dungeon gear. There is simply not enough available space.
Why is only the original 50 job gear in the armoire? And if you augment the original artifact gear, suddenly it has to go into the dresser? Why can't we put all (50/60/70/80/90) job gear in the armoire, whether its augmented, idealized or whatever? Same with specific DoH/DoL class gear. What possible limitation is there, that they can't do that?
And yea, for those of us who like to have their DoH/DoL each have a unique look. Oh, sorry, now you only have 9 plates available. For 20 different jobs. And then tough luck if you want to have a casual look, a beach look and a silly frog-suit glam.

It's frustrating

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I have to carry 5 pentamelded crafter tops just so I can have a unique crafter (three of them share the same look). It is hella frustrating.

Agreed. There's no excuse to not allow for a higher number of plates. At least one per job, as suggested here, should be the bare minimum.

Same goes for the glamor dresser's capacity. It should be infinite: the moment an item is bound to you, its appearance should be saved for you to use whenever you want.

I think there are too many glamour plates and some should be removed. You need 4-5, maximum. Each glamour created adds to data storage costs, reducing the amount of cash spent on content.

If you want to play dress-up, buy a Barbie.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Agreed. There's no excuse to not allow for a higher number of plates. At least one per job, as suggested here, should be the bare minimum.

Same goes for the glamor dresser's capacity. It should be infinite: the moment an item is bound to you, its appearance should be saved for you to use whenever you want.

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There is a reason: they have to store that data for every single player, and it seems that they continue to suffer from a poor inventory design that becomes ever more unwieldy over time.

While I have no insight into it as such, I suspect that glamour plates are stored as independent items from the copies in the glamour that get cloned when you add them to the plate. It would explain why they remain on the plate once the base item gets removed from the dresser.

So they have to store the data for each item in the dresser, plus possibly allow for 12 items per plate.

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Originally Posted by NatPagle

WoW's transmog system is just better. Glam truly is endgame and not having a robust system to support that is just disappointing.

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Comes with the cost of no dye system, so WoW ain't the best of it either.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Ideally there should be one plate for every job, including the DOH/DOL jobs. I was hopeful when they increased the storage limit to 800 and gave us a few extra plates. But it’s still not enough. lol

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THIS... THIS Is The Perfect Solution, And/Or The WoW Glam System That I Heard About

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Comes with the cost of no dye system, so WoW ain't the best of it either.

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Yea, that's true. I had forgotten that you can't dye in WoW.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

There is a reason: they have to store that data for every single player, and it seems that they continue to suffer from a poor inventory design that becomes ever more unwieldy over time.

While I have no insight into it as such, I suspect that glamour plates are stored as independent items from the copies in the glamour that get cloned when you add them to the plate. It would explain why they remain on the plate once the base item gets removed from the dresser.

So they have to store the data for each item in the dresser, plus possibly allow for 12 items per plate.

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My point is that we're talking about a successful company with plenty of resources. They claimed that showing whether an attack was magical or physical was very hard yet implemented it a couple of patches later.

WoW fixed stuff like the (de)buff cap more than 10 years ago, so there's no excuse (i. e. reason) for them to have limitations such as these in 2023.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

I think there are too many glamour plates and some should be removed. You need 4-5, maximum. Each glamour created adds to data storage costs, reducing the amount of cash spent on content.

If you want to play dress-up, buy a Barbie.

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Glamour is a HUGE part of this game. Given that we have things like Artifact gear for specific Jobs and we're encouraged to have more than one Job on the same character, we should have the ability to at least let them all have their unique aesthetic. There is some really great DoH and DoL Job-specific gear that a lot can't even use because we have to choose between having a unique look for adventuring Jobs we play or having a unique look for tradeskilling Jobs we play.

I'd also agree with others that bare minimum is a plate for every available Job, but ideal would be a few more either for extra outfits for one Job or general issue plate glamours that use items that can be used on any Job that can be assigned as needed.

It's fine if you don't want to use glamour, but even combat-minded players like to look good doing it.

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Originally Posted by NatPagle

WoW's transmog system is just better. Glam truly is endgame and not having a robust system to support that is just disappointing.

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If only wow's characters weren't so hideous UwU

I second this! I have so many outfit ideas, but I'm out of room for them already skska;lsl;a;lk

No mention of glamour plates.
I feel defeated!!!

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

No mention of glamour plates.
I feel defeated!!!

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But we'll be able to apply 2 dyes to gear. Whihc would make it so more Glamour plates are needed for convenience XD

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Originally Posted by Krokov

But we'll be able to apply 2 dyes to gear. Whihc would make it so more Glamour plates are needed for convenience XD

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I know. LOL
And it's such a hassle going to inns just to get to the dresser. If only dressers are in apartments or houses, theyd be much easier to access.

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Originally Posted by Mura-

They are QoL things why wouldn\\'t people be happy about small things if they make the game more enjoyable?

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And it is not even a demanding request. 20 is just not enough considering the endgame is glamour. Two more jobs in DT and we have less plates than there arw combat jobs.

Honestly... Yes. We're about to have 2 more jobs next year. With BLU that's 22 jobs and only 20 plates.

Unless they want to free the glamour so that we can wear any glam on any job, they need to get us 40-50 plates.