I certainly have my narrative criticisms with FF14, from the excessive focus on Ul'dah to the horrible handling of Duskwight characters, but this was something I felt like I finally needed to speak up for:
The decision to add the Shadow Wolf as a store mount.
Not because "grr store mounts bad", nor even because it's a raid boss.
I'm upset because it's more than a random raid boss, it's a significant part of several questlines, seeded all the way back in HW.
To know the full story of the Shadow Wolf (which isn't its name, but I'll call it that for simplicity here), a player must do the full HW post leveling MSQ, the HW Trial series, the ShB role quests, the ShB raid series, and all the follow up quests given in the Crystarium after you finish the HW Trials and ShB role quests.
Edit: One could even make the strained argument that it appeared in the 1.0 trailer of FF XIV.
The Shadow Wolf played a significant role in the lore, literally a key part of the impetus for ShB's events.
Usually, mounts or pets of this story caliber are tied to questline awards, such as Midgardsomr, Maggie, or even the Yol, etc.
While I'd personally prefer if the Shadow Wolf had been a quest reward, I wouldn't begrudge it appearing as a reward tied to the ShB raids in some fashion, as it would at least still relate to its own story importance there.
But to make it a store mount divorces it of all story importance. It isn't even called by its true name. Awarding mounts/pets after you understand their story significance is something FF XIV generally does really well, but this is a very disappointing missed opportunity.
I realize it's too late to undo this mistake, but I beg that this not be repeated in the future.
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06-15-2023, 06:34 AMWixI'm unhappy with the new store mount "Shadow Wolf" (for story reasons)
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06-15-2023, 06:38 AMRenalt
Really? I'm shocked! No one has said anything before!
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...threads/483780
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...threads/483783
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...threads/483873
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...threads/483841
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06-15-2023, 06:39 AMStormpeaksGood, and hopefully more people complain about it, it shouldnt even be on the mog shop anyway, and on top of that they couldnt even be arsed to put a custom music that is relevant to its lore, absolute lazinessQuote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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06-15-2023, 07:11 AMRanakuYou can be sure it will be repeated in the future. That's just how things go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wix
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06-15-2023, 07:28 AMryouma17
iam unhappy that i didnt win the lottery yet again but life goes on
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06-15-2023, 07:33 AMMasekase_Hurricane
https://i.imgur.com/Fwt784x.png
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06-15-2023, 08:26 AMKitingGenbu
Kind of funny how different the west and JP complain. When JP has an issue, they just make one long long thread. West, just makes multiple of the same thread. I guess some people feel their complaints are more special than others.
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06-15-2023, 10:04 AMReimmiAre the jp forums up in arms about this mount too?Quote:
Originally Posted by KitingGenbu
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06-15-2023, 10:16 AMHurlstone
Given how Sleipnir was the first mount on the Store I think, it does not surprise me they would do this and whilst it is good to see an outcry about this, I doubt they will change their tune anytime soon. Like any big company in this capitalist hellhole, if they can squeeze money out of it, they will do that over more creative means.
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06-15-2023, 10:16 AMDarkpawCustom music relevant to it’s lore?… like the FF8 cover in it’s boss fight? Cause that is so lore accurate…Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
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06-15-2023, 10:22 AMFawkesThey seem mostly bothered by the music. I think the post with the most likes from their thread is a dude calling out dat miners for getting their own hopes up about it being a blue mage reward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reimmi
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06-15-2023, 10:33 AMEorzean_usernameI think it's partially a cultural thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KitingGenbu
Most JP players seem to actually follow along with the entire length of a thread; most Western players will usually lose interest after a few pages, consider the thread "done" and everything "said", and then only a few stubborn diehards remain behind discussing anything or checking out updates.
I think Western forumgoers have been conditioned with an underlying "intuition" that if you want a majority of viewers to actually notice anything that you say, you basically have to make your own post, no matter how briefly-lived it may be; even great ideas or contributions that are buried on page 12 or 23 or 52 become archaeological fragments that only a few dedicated troglodytic delvers are ever aware of. -
06-15-2023, 11:12 AMRanakuI really wouldn't call a couple weirdos on the forums screaming "up in arms". It's more like the usual trolls screaming into the void to entertain each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reimmi
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06-15-2023, 11:43 AMStormpeaksyeah because a 24€ mount with the base music is such a good bargain, couldnt even put up a lore music or anything nah, just base music, and yall will defend thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Ranaku
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06-15-2023, 01:09 PMSoge01If SE really wanted to make some easy cash, they'd make a Y'shtola and Estinien mounts for those ridiculously thirsty individuals out there. *Cough Asmongold Cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurlstone
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06-15-2023, 01:37 PMVelKallorMusic doesnt worry me, I prefer the zone music anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
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06-15-2023, 01:50 PMIvtrixDamn finally a good opinion from VelQuote:
Originally Posted by VelKallor
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06-15-2023, 06:18 PMjeopardy2808Eyes....
Due to the fact that the design of this mount is very good i find the eyes somekind of not matching the rest of the mount....
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06-15-2023, 06:31 PMKaliestoI wouldn't mind more unified topics on subjects over here, but its like herding cats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eorzean_username