Are you all not tired of Frontlines and being pigeon holed into it?

Yeah there is CC, the only other somewhat semi-active PVP content.

But damn it man, can people just give Rival Wings a chance for once? There is not much wrong with it, but apparently the rules and instructions is too much for people to understand how to play it.

Its not hard PVP content some people make it out to be, and its 10x more fun than Frontlines by a mile.

Pushing for Rival wings changes tends to be screaming into a soundless void. I wish they'd pour more resources into it, give it a roulette of its own, tell people how to play it with PvP hall of the novice perhaps.

Square seems more interested in CC instead, and making frontlines worse, one patch at a time.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

Yeah there is CC, the only other somewhat semi-active PVP content.

But damn it man, can people just give Rival Wings a chance for once? There is not much wrong with it, but apparently the rules and instructions is too much for people to understand how to play it.

Its not hard PVP content some people make it out to be, and its 10x more fun than Frontlines by a mile.

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RW has nothing to do with whether its hard or not , its just not accessible or as rewarding (in the literal sense)

FL is the one I enjoy the most tbh.

To be honest, I don't like Frontline when tank and melee get 60% DR, now after some nerf, I kinda enjoy it, except DRG and DRK still annoying as hell...

While I am all for RW getting a roulette so people will queue for it, I personally hate DOTA style games. Running around and killing NPC's is not pvp.

Think about how half people in FL don't notice objectives, overextend 24/7, don't have their map open and barely know how to play their job.

Now imagine them trying to figure out rival wings .... yeah.

To answer directly the question in the topic's subject: no because FL is the only PvP mode I truly enjoy. That being said it's mind-boggling how RW still lacks a roulette to this day.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

Yeah there is CC, the only other somewhat semi-active PVP content.

But damn it man, can people just give Rival Wings a chance for once? There is not much wrong with it, but apparently the rules and instructions is too much for people to understand how to play it.

Its not hard PVP content some people make it out to be, and its 10x more fun than Frontlines by a mile.

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yeah im kinda tired of FL ngl

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Originally Posted by Ransu

While I am all for RW getting a roulette so people will queue for it, I personally hate DOTA style games. Running around and killing NPC's is not pvp.

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Fortunately, even though it's a moba-like pvp mode, you do pvp 95% of the time, the rest being when you collect/need CE. And even then you could be gathering in the opponent's side of the map to deny them the resource, which has a high chance of pvp.

Even when you're pushing mammets (which is important in itself) you can be sure pvp will follow in a more active manner than what you'd find in traditional mobas.

no i like frontlines. RW should have queue

Add a cooldown for re-using mechs after losing one and we're talking as far as I'm concerned.

But more importantly, the main problem of the mode is how extremely rule heavy and convoluted it is for a newcomer. There is a reason certain pvp modes work better: you hop in, it's obvious what you have to do, and you can eventually learn the little details on the way over time. That's not the case for RW. Nothing tells people how to use mechs and what they're each for, nothing tells exactly what those trains are for every time they show up (because ofc every train does a different thing), the battlefield mechanics and synergies are a lot harder to decipher, etc.

MOBAs actually also suffer from this in a way. The difference with a MOBA is that it's literally what the game has to offer. People play it for it. In XIV it's side content.