Please increase Trophy Crystal cap AND / OR Add more unique rewards

I've been consistently completing at least up until Lv.25 in the Series pass (more in Series 1) so I've been constantly gathering trophy crystals and effectively being "forced" to buy things I don't necessarily want just as a means of being able to get the next tier unlocked without overcapping.

I bought all of the unique rewards, and bought multiple Framer Kits for the jobs I play even when I don't even mess with framer kits. I've bought multiple Wolf Collars just to use up crystals, don't particularly care for most of those weapons.

I've bought the full recolor AF set for my main, I've bought a bunch of the recolor LotA and High Allagan recolors pieces.

All of these things I don't particularly care for but are just adding to my inventory space, unless I dump them into other stuff like the Wolf Collars or just buying Framer Kits I don't care about. I could dump them into Trophy Crystals -> Wolf Collars -> Wolf Marks -> whatever but that seems incredibly wasteful considering I'm already in the same situation with needing to overspend on Wolf Marks.

I can provide TWO solutions to this "problem":

1) EASY: Increase the Trophy Crystal cap.
--- Grand Company Seals are able to go up to 90,000 which would be a great start.

--- Island Sanctuary goes at least up to 999,999. This would for all intents and purposes likely solve the problem outright for 99% of people.

2) MEDIUM / HARD? (Easy...): Add more unique rewards.
--- There are 13 MOUNTS and 12 OUTFITS from previous Feast rewards that could be incorporated.

--- A regular Trophy Crystal set is 7,500 crystals. If the Feast rewards are viewed with more prestige or want to be more of a crystal sink they could be something like 10,000 and given in a single boxed set (to save inventory space while earning). In total that'd be 120,000 as is, which would be a lot.

--- Alternatively, the highest Wolf Mark set is currently 14,000 Wolf Marks, so you could just do the same with Trophy Crystals for the old Feast rewards. (168,000)

--- Old Feast mounts could easily be set at 15,000 (195,000) or even 20,000 (260,000) Trophy Crystals as a great sink. This would be similar to the Wolf Marks mount being 20,000. These would last for quite a while as things to buy going forward into the future.

--- The old Feast rewards would take no additional work to implement other than whatever is necessary to incorporate them into the vendor system. Which I'm sure is a lot different from making new stuff from scratch.

--- Create entirely new unique rewards to get per Season / Series...

--- I guess more recolors...:(


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As it is now I'm dumping Trophy Crystals into things I don't particularly care for anymore and it doesn't feel great. I'm up to Series Level 7 on the new Series pass and have not bothered accepting my rewards because I'm capped out and don't feel like buying anything else...

In the meanwhile, they could even add the things we're all converting currency for so we don't have to.

Would be way more incentive to PvP if they actually did this, assuming the PvP devs woke up from their drunken slumber.

Please do this, SE. I'm drowning in Trophy Crystals and my snorkel isn't that reliable.

There is no way for SE to keep up with the people who play PvP as their main content. Just play the modes for fun not for the shiniest latest reward :p

I would not hold your breath for old feast mount/gear rewards to ever make it back for anyone to get.

We definitely need the vendor updated more often. I basically just convert them to wolf marks all the time and just buy grade 8 dark matter or materia. Either that or make the damn series pass more interesting. 3 actual rewards and the other 27 spots being just crystals is really dumb. I'd rather they dump the crystals and fill the series pass with more random stuff.

Having a hundred of wolf collars in inventory and having to painfully trade them 4 by 4 into wolf marks in order to spend the currency into consumables like materia or whatever sure is a fun way to spend my time.

This has always been an ongoing problem with their vendor rewards from their PvP content. There isn't enough to buy with the amount of Wolf Marks (and now Trophy Crystals) that they shower anyone even remotely active in PvP with. At least with Wolf Marks, you can purchase things like Ventures, Dark Matter or Materia. But Trophy Crystals lose their value once you've bought all relevant portrait accents, misc items and any gear recolors you feel that you want (which doesn't take very long, especially if you've been active for more than just 1 season).

I mean sure, you could spend trophies on wolf collars and then go get wolf marks from those to buy all of that PvE consumables- but would it kill them to make the Trophy Crystal Vendor sell consumables of their own for a Series climb exp. sink? If they did, then maybe it wouldn't be as apparent that they don't update rewards to buy with their PvP currencies more than once a year. Their next batch of Trophy Crystal items (whenever that is) needs to have a high price tag if they expect it to last. I'm talking like near-cap prices so that people have something other than the rank 25 series reward to work for.

If making new things is so hard, they should just expand the Wolf Mark/Trophy Crystal shops with rewards from other places.

The common good suggestion is to make Hunt stuff avaiable but they could go even further, it would make grinding PvP a lot more rewarding to have useful or fun items to buy instead of getting overloaded with Collars and whatnot because the only somewhat worthwhile thing is to get QoL stuff like Dark Matter with Wolf Marks.

Here to agree I am swimming in the crystals, I just use the wolf marks to buy materia or prisms...there is not a whole lot to choose from. I really wish they would add maybe rarer cards or something that I can work on.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Having a hundred of wolf collars in inventory and having to painfully trade them 4 by 4 into wolf marks in order to spend the currency into consumables like materia or whatever sure is a fun way to spend my time.

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Oh ya. its definitely a chore, but I get free repairs from my tank, so I'll happily deal with it and keep giving him grade 8 dark matter lol.

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Originally Posted by Nanne

There is no way for SE to keep up with the people who play PvP as their main content. Just play the modes for fun not for the shiniest latest reward :p

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I personally do not like PvP. I am not doing PvP as my main content, like I mentioned I am only doing PvP to get the Lv.25 Series pass rewards. Only in the first Series did I go beyond Lv.25 and even then I only hit the max and didn't do the loops cause it wasn't worth it for me.

I'm basically doing the bare minimum to get the rewards simply cause I don't want to miss them and they do look cool to be fair. Although the dragon and now the current mount are kind of wack for Lv25 rewards but it is what it is.

So SE isn't even keeping up with ME, who is someone that isn't doing PvP as their main content. Which means it is an even worse situation for people who DO actually like PvP.

They have said in the past (in official slides) that the previous Series rewards would have been available for "currency" but they've yet to implement this, and they might not even do it but again this would be an additional option for people to spend Trophy Crystals on if they missed out on doing the Series rewards previously.

That wouldn't impact me, but at least it is another crystal sink for those individuals.

I've capped out series 25+ on pretty much all of my important characters. 6.4 doesn't offer me incentive to do that again. Shatter isn't fun anymore, Series rewards are kinda meh this season, Augmented hellhound isn't enough of an incentive to make me want to grind ranked. I'm capped out on crystals on multiple characters with not a whole lot worth spending them on.

The front line changes alone are enough to make me put it on the daily roulette backburner. I don't need incentive to PvP beyond it just being fun, but both the incentive, and fun in doing pvp are lacking.. Easily resolved if they just put old PvP rewards up for sale, and would kill a lot of the wailing over FoMo. Maybe put out a map or two that will actually be fun to play frontlines on. Redo secure, bring Astragalos back, Put out a RW roulette.

At this point they should just add the old rewards, like hellhound attire coffer for 250k trophy crystals, so theres at least SOMETHING to work for

I like this idea with one exception:

To trade for 1 piece of item, it would require multiple tokens (maybe like 2 or 3) and each token should cost 15,000-20,000 trophy crystals. Hell, we can even use wolf collars but each item would require maybe 50 collars? Why?

Because the people that played feast should not have their hard earned rewards be given out for basically free, it should require an actual grind. Feast was much harder than CC and the people that played it and made it to top 100 (especially the amazing healers and melee carries) deserve to have their rewards mean something. I’m not including the cheaters and win-traders. I’m talking about the peeps that actually grinded the feast climbing struggle.

Devil's advocate: It's nice to have glam and whatnot, but it's not like I'm gonna spend my time chasing after glam when my inventories and dresser are already filled to the brim... Might get it if I really like it, but that's not a given.

Increase the cap would be nice, hell, remove the cap, why do we need a cap?

Adding more unique rewards would be nice and I’m sure they’ll do this down the line, but until then I’m sitting on 20k trophies with another 7k to claim from my series rewards and still an entire third of a page of them to unlock and I can’t even claim my other rewards without claiming the trophies first.

It’s such a hassle to go to the vendor, buy wolf collars, use the wolf collars on wolf marks to buy materia… just sell materia for crystal trophies… or something else we can find repeatable use for.

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Originally Posted by Nubrication

I like this idea with one exception:

To trade for 1 piece of item, it would require multiple tokens (maybe like 2 or 3) and each token should cost 15,000-20,000 trophy crystals. Hell, we can even use wolf collars but each item would require maybe 50 collars? Why?

Because the people that played feast should not have their hard earned rewards be given out for basically free, it should require an actual grind. Feast was much harder than CC and the people that played it and made it to top 100 (especially the amazing healers and melee carries) deserve to have their rewards mean something. I’m not including the cheaters and win-traders. I’m talking about the peeps that actually grinded the feast climbing struggle.

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Counter-point:

Nothing in this game should involve FOMO and the fact that new players are always joining means they shouldn't "miss out" on something just because they started at a different time. The current setup still has FOMO but at least based on what they've actually said it shouldn't be the case at some unknown later point in time.

The other FOMO in the game would be seasonal rewards (and technically special events) but at the very least they usually put those on the cash shop if people truly care. The special events are an exception but they have at least tried bringing some back so it's not all bad.

The Feast PvP rewards however are just gone entirely and were already limited. I would point out however that obtaining those rewards in terms of doing the content is not so different to what people would normally be doing now anyway at least if they had to be attached to CC but given the changes they probably wouldn't want that.

So at least in my eyes someone playing X amount of matches to get Top 100 or whatever back when no one cared shouldn't somehow be different from anyone else playing X amount of matches NOW because it's the same process. And as it's been said that whole situation is already tarnished to begin with. As in a grind is a grind regardless of when you do it.

If someone wants to go and do an old Ultimate or Savages or anything else in the game they can just do it. But old PvP Feast rewards are just gone, this to me doesn't align with the rest of the game, and again FOMO shouldn't be a thing, especially if they care about new players constantly joining the game.

Here is a post from Yoshi-P about when they added the White Raven earrings during one of The Rising events:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4765303

The answer was they could just make the items REPLICAS.

The actual worse thing about this is that some of the cash shop rewards are named the opposite compared to the original items and instead are phrased as if they are the "true" items. For example: "Authentic White Tiger" meaning the ACTUAL event item "The White Tiger" is somehow not authentic...

Which in turn I would say why is it acceptable for the old Feast rewards to be these untouchable / unobtainable FOMO items but NOT all the other items that were given during a specific time such as the stuff I mentioned above? That is basically a double standard, it's ok for PvP people to be upset but not literally everyone else? Which just makes it a stupid argument to begin with, thus my point.

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Originally Posted by zeth07

Counter-point:

Nothing in this game should involve FOMO and the fact that new players are always joining means they shouldn't "miss out" on something just because they started at a different time. The current setup still has FOMO but at least based on what they've actually said it shouldn't be the case at some unknown later point in time.

The other FOMO in the game would be seasonal rewards (and technically special events) but at the very least they usually put those on the cash shop if people truly care. The special events are an exception but they have at least tried bringing some back so it's not all bad.

The Feast PvP rewards however are just gone entirely and were already limited. I would point out however that obtaining those rewards in terms of doing the content is not so different to what people would normally be doing now anyway at least if they had to be attached to CC but given the changes they probably wouldn't want that.

So at least in my eyes someone playing X amount of matches to get Top 100 or whatever back when no one cared shouldn't somehow be different from anyone else playing X amount of matches NOW because it's the same process. And as it's been said that whole situation is already tarnished to begin with. As in a grind is a grind regardless of when you do it.

If someone wants to go and do an old Ultimate or Savages or anything else in the game they can just do it. But old PvP Feast rewards are just gone, this to me doesn't align with the rest of the game, and again FOMO shouldn't be a thing, especially if they care about new players constantly joining the game.

Here is a post from Yoshi-P about when they added the White Raven earrings during one of The Rising events:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4765303

The answer was they could just make the items REPLICAS.

The actual worse thing about this is that some of the cash shop rewards are named the opposite compared to the original items and instead are phrased as if they are the "true" items. For example: "Authentic White Tiger" meaning the ACTUAL event item "The White Tiger" is somehow not authentic...

Which in turn I would say why is it acceptable for the old Feast rewards to be these untouchable / unobtainable FOMO items but NOT all the other items that were given during a specific time such as the stuff I mentioned above? That is basically a double standard, it's ok for PvP people to be upset but not literally everyone else? Which just makes it a stupid argument to begin with, thus my point.

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Did you even read my comment properly?

Also if nobody “cared”, then clearly those people didn’t FOMO.

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Originally Posted by Nubrication

Did you even read my comment properly?

Also if nobody “cared”, then clearly those people didn’t FOMO.

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It was mostly in reference to it having to be MORE of a grind than anything else otherwise, I just wanted to add more to my point.

EDIT: Also I am sorry I was being facetious about people not caring, as in they didn't care about PvP in general not the rewards per se. Compared to now with the Series pass and how they structured it by not having to play Feast/CC, more people are interested in doing it at least for the rewards.

You are saying it was somehow a struggle for people to grind Feast and that it was "hard", but we can still clearly go back and check those rankings.

The #1 person in Aether Season 1 of Feast only played 232 matches....

The #12 person, meaning just outside of getting the crown for that particular glamour set only played 104 matches.

If we are just talking Top 100 in general, the grind was basically trivial, the lowest I see on Aether was a person who got it by just playing 58 matches......

They stop tracking win rates after Season 5 but it sounds like you are blowing the grind required of Feast way out of proportion, at least in terms of the expectations of the grind that people should be expected to do in return now if they were implemented.

I should also point out how excessive your expected grind would be for one item as you say. The current Series pass only gives 28,000 trophy crystals before looping. You are saying ONE piece of an old set should cost 30,000 up to 60,000 or 50,000 by your Wolf Collar example. Again....for one piece by your logic.

That doesn't seem reasonable at all, even for one SET let alone one PIECE of the sets...

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By my own standards for examples, a mount even at 20,000 would take up most of a person's entire Series pass worth of trophy crystals. This means people who have most of what they want would still need to do most of it and keep playing assuming they also implement "new" stuff at the same time.

And it means anyone who missed out on other stuff and playing catch up on other trophy crystal rewards would have a reason to maybe want to keep looping. OR that gives them a reason to come back and play more next Series.

If the glamour sets were 14k or 15k, they could basically get 2 sets if they completely grinded the whole thing which takes some dedication, and if they do it as 15k that means if they want an extra set they have to loop at least twice which is an incentive for people to keep playing. Which should be a goal the developers want and still seems reasonably obtainable for people.

It was definitely waay harder than CC. Feast games required way more coordination and if your melee or healer sucked, it was basically a loss unless the other team had the same issue. If you had both a melee AND healer that sucked, it’s 100% a loss. You had four players and losing even one teammate was extremely detrimental, usually domino affecting into a loss. The games drained the crap out of people that played. The healers especially. That’s the reason pure healers are no longer a thing as per squenix. So yes, the grind was 100x worse compared to CC.

You’re using Nex Cross as an example lol, he was the best monk in NA (probably still is). Any feast game or FL, he would dominate. I’m talking about going 20+ kills in FL consistently.

Basically yes, I think that there should be a long grind for people to obtain what T100 feast players had to work for. Those games were much more stressful and grindier than CC. It was more of grind because you can actually lose tier rank, any tier. Which means you can drop from diamond all the way to bronze by consistently losing. And in order to get back to the tier you were in, you had to play placement matches (best out of 3 or 5, I forgot, it was so long ago for me), if you lose the placement matches, you don’t rank up. That was the struggle of climbing to top 100, it was getting to diamond in the first place. It’s not like CC where everyone can get to crystal by just playing a ton.

To reiterate, I’m all for the items and mounts being available but just not for “free”. Compare it to the Bozjan law’s order armor sets or the eureka armor sets, those take a grind too.

Imagine asking for rerelease of what is essentially a Trophy and a prestige from Top 100 for anything less than playing Ranked. Eugh.

I don't mind the idea of replicas, but Trophy Crystals are not the right way to go. I understand people hating on time-limited rewards, but turning what is ideally a badge of honour into a free hand-out... no. Just no.

I think it's easy to "imagine" when a lot of the people who got those rewards did so through win trading back when PVP was much more maligned in the game. I also contend against the idea of seeing them as "free hand-outs" in that case because you still have to put forth the effort to get the Trophy Crystals in such a scenario, but there is the fact that most TCs are given just through playing the game and not through wins.

Yes, those that won the rewards legitimately back then should feel a sense of pride, but it's been several years and I don't think those items should be completely lost to time. Especially when many got the rewards through less than legitimate means.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

I think it's easy to "imagine" when a lot of the people who got those rewards did so through win trading back when PVP was much more maligned in the game. I also contend against the idea of seeing them as "free hand-outs" in that case because you still have to put forth the effort to get the Trophy Crystals in such a scenario, but there is the fact that most TCs are given just through playing the game and not through wins.

Yes, those that won the rewards legitimately back then should feel a sense of pride, but it's been several years and I don't think those items should be completely lost to time. Especially when many got the rewards through less than legitimate means.

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While I understand your reasoning, it honestly feels like the weight of it leans too heavily on "wintraders and cheaters poisoned the well" when I highly doubt more than 25% at most on those leaderboards were involved in those activities. If we use a fraction of the leaderboard being bad actors as reasoning, where will we draw the line? Why does Ranked Exclusivity have to die, in a japanese game no less?

The reason I oppose Trophy Crystals is because it is essentially a bottomless supply currency obtainable from any gamemode, even if you lose every single match.

The Commendation Crystals from Ranked are a step in the right direction however. What it needs is a wider range of ranks being able to access them like Wolf Collars originally were.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Imagine asking for rerelease of what is essentially a Trophy and a prestige from Top 100 for anything less than playing Ranked. Eugh.

I don't mind the idea of replicas, but Trophy Crystals are not the right way to go. I understand people hating on time-limited rewards, but turning what is ideally a badge of honour into a free hand-out... no. Just no.

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its not a hand out if it takes a shit ton of time to grind to be bale to get, the other badge of honor, ultimates never go away

just make them cost a ton of wolf collars , idk, 50

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Originally Posted by 4clubbedace

its not a hand out if it takes a shit ton of time to grind to be bale to get, the other badge of honor, ultimates never go away

just make them cost a ton of wolf collars , idk, 50

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Comparing Ultimates and Top X Ranked is comparing apples to oranges.

For starters an Ultimate is not a competition vs other players, it is a challenge in form of a boss gauntlet designed by the devs. So no matter what you do, you have to kill it to get the actual reward. For the rewards to have meaning there is little reason to time gate it - the raiding community however holds the world first race in higher regards as a supplement.

Short, its a challenge, not a competition vs other players. There are no losers, only clearers or yet-to-be-clearers.

Ranked PvP in any game for that matter means someone will be at the top and someone else will be below them. Fundamentally it is a competition. The difficulty of Ranked PvP is not arbitrarily set by developers but rather scales with player skill currently present on the leaderboard. For a High Rank reward to make sense here, there needs to be a clear difference between who wins the Trophy and who doesnt, otherwise it is a rotating participation reward.

Short, to PvP means to compete, the difficulty is set by the players and the definition of earning the rewards in ranked is (supposed) to be better than other players.

So what do you think will happen when what is considered a Trophy designating season best to one is being copied and given to some Dipshit Mcthrowington who loses up to 100% of their matches and gets it at about 77% of the speed as someone who wins 100% of their matches, both starting from 0?

For reference, the equivalent to this would be starting to roll out an Ultimate totem vendor where you trade in materials worth like 100,000 or 200,000 poetics. Sure it takes a shitton of time to grind, but why should the person who grinds Aetherochemical Research Facility all day ever have access to a Golden Bahamut weapon without ever stepping foot into it? Just because they THEORETICALLY can always go back and do it?

Again, Im ok with replicas. Im not ok with Trophy Crystals. You want what is ranked reward, play ranked and earn Ranked currency.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Comparing Ultimates and Top X Ranked is comparing apples to oranges.

For starters an Ultimate is not a competition vs other players, it is a challenge in form of a boss gauntlet designed by the devs. So no matter what you do, you have to kill it to get the actual reward. For the rewards to have meaning there is little reason to time gate it - the raiding community however holds the world first race in higher regards as a supplement.

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So what do you think will happen when what is considered a Trophy designating season best to one is being copied and given to some Dipshit Mcthrowington who loses up to 100% of their matches and gets it at about 77% of the speed as someone who wins 100% of their matches, both starting from 0?

For reference, the equivalent to this would be starting to roll out an Ultimate totem vendor where you trade in materials worth like 100,000 or 200,000 poetics. Sure it takes a shitton of time to grind, but why should the person who grinds Aetherochemical Research Facility all day ever have access to a Golden Bahamut weapon without ever stepping foot into it? Just because they THEORETICALLY can always go back and do it?

Again, Im ok with replicas. Im not ok with Trophy Crystals. You want what is ranked reward, play ranked and earn Ranked currency.

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Worlds race does not matter and never will matter, its a degree of bragging rights, but means next to nothing. In fact id like for it to matter less.
Zero sum games for a mmo do not feel good, ever, at all. Learning i could not have a chance to get a mount at all because iw asnt playing thsi game 4 years ago? actually awful, i dont like season passes for the same reason if you cant "buy" what the rewards were after the fact. it doesnt help that the old ranked prizes it was limited to 100 people PER server

theres a reason martial art tournaments offer a trophy (which while made of gold or precious metal, not really that special outside bragging and put down in historical record) and cash prizes. They dont offer a limited yamaha motorcycle of which only 20 were ever made.

tbh if you clear an ultimate at least once i wouldnt mind if they had it so you could keep buying totems of that ult through other means, the one clear got the title, which is more of the bragging point than the weapon itself

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Originally Posted by zeth07

You are saying it was somehow a struggle for people to grind Feast and that it was "hard", but we can still clearly go back and check those rankings.

The #1 person in Aether Season 1 of Feast only played 232 matches....

The #12 person, meaning just outside of getting the crown for that particular glamour set only played 104 matches.

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So at least in my eyes someone playing X amount of matches to get Top 100 or whatever back when no one cared shouldn't somehow be different from anyone else playing X amount of matches NOW because it's the same process. that whole situation is already tarnished to begin with. As in a grind is a grind regardless of when you do it.

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Alright, some Feast Lore.

1.) There was no max ranking. If you got lucky and had good win series, it was actually beneficial to ride it out and not play anymore. Or you got a loss series and demoted, well sucks! The people with 90 wins and who quit were just good.

https://i.imgur.com/d4BuUOW.png

https://i.imgur.com/xwAqq5D.png

2. It was more complex. I would say more difficult for people to play. Which made it an activity you couldnt grind, because you needed to be actually somewhat present with your brain. There was also critical damage possible, as well as positionals and a shorter melee skill range. As well as having TP for sprint and weaponskills. And gear actually mattered.

https://i.imgur.com/SHY8kR0.png

https://i.imgur.com/6G4WoMM.png

https://i.imgur.com/VZgkITW.png

But SE didn't like it, because casual players were not happy.

https://i.imgur.com/DD2iZXk.png

So now we got something like this instead.

https://i.imgur.com/G3kbrV1.png

Peak gameplay or? At least the queues are fast I guess and the gamemode fun enough for casual stuff. But I would say it is not suitable for competetive envrionment at all.

3. It was way easier to do big mistakes due to the nature of PvP back then. So if you didnt know what you are doing, you gonna lose every match.

Example being a bard using their 3min CD burst buff at the start of the match before the gates even open.
https://i.imgur.com/jtj6mk6.png

Or somebody not standing in Sacred Prism while being totally bursted down.

https://i.imgur.com/fP3CnEU.png

Or somebody using lvl 1 gear or leveling gear...

https://i.imgur.com/woyWG12.png

Or you simply picked up too many medals because you are bad at math. Each stack increased dmg on you by 12%, so having 10 stacks was a death sentence.

https://i.imgur.com/bDBtEhu.png

This made skillgap an actual thing. Having knowledge paid off. It was not so much a circus where something random can happen, if the players knew what they are doing.

4. Then there was the mental stress, for some probably bigger than others. We still had chat mode, so if you lost it was likely you had some sweet talk after blaming each other, before you became best friends. SE didnt wanna deal with the reports, so they banned the chat mode...

https://i.imgur.com/Rtt8oFt.png


5. A match was actually 8 min long too, also gave 0 experience points. And it was hard to end sometimes. When you needed 1 more medal to get 600 etc.

https://i.imgur.com/TVipc2p.png

There is no equivalent of doing some cool insane plays anymore nowadays, that are totally unexpected. Like you are standing in Sacred Prism, getting holmanged out of it, but your PLD is as smart as to see that and still cover you, so the MCH cant solo kill you, as was likely back then.

https://i.imgur.com/1WHVScG.png

And that is why it is not compareable. And I would hate to see people farming wolfmarks/crystal currency to get the same top100 rewards as back then. PvP is a lot of handholding now, so you cant do that bad anymore. At least that is valid for S1-S4, where we didnt even have the datacenter split yet and sometimes seasons went for half a year or longer if I remember right..

Sorry, but no sane person liked the old system of having pve skills in pvp. I don't care how hardcore you were, that was the worst time for pvp in this game because the way pve system works simply does not translate well into pvp.

What do you mean? It was a wonderful time derping around waiting for the Samurai to get their cooldowns back to see who managed to one shot someone. And having a tank pick up too many medals every match was simply an experience worthy of praise. How could you not miss that?

No, just no...

Really needs more rewards, with the rate things are added you will cap out realtively fast, theres also no real "burn" items ... maybe add the lootbox coffers to it we can buy at GC. You could mix it up by making more variations, could make a quick venture box. Pay X tokens and get a the loot a quick venture would give you. Obviously more Minions/Mounts/Emotes would be better, but that would also take effort from SE sooo ... yea.

Alternatively add something similar to the wivre horn that just needs an unreal amount of points, if you make them sellable perhaps that would even draw in some more players they could still just enter and throw ... but that happens already anyway.

They just need to bump the cap up to 50k crystals and add rewards deserving of someone who was mentally broken enough to farm out that many crystals.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

They just need to bump the cap up to 50k crystals and add rewards deserving of someone who was mentally broken enough to farm out that many crystals.

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Agreed. If nothing else, it needs proper currency sink and/or non-glamour rewards that are attractive to buy. I don't dislike the glamour, but it kinda felt a bit uninspired.

They already have the job frames tied to PVP where you also get the PVP limit-break emote.

So I think they should add a second set of "frames", but this time it unlocks all the job's abilities for the portraits.

So first you buy the WAR frame for 1.5k, then you can buy the more expensive (say 5k) WAR ability pack and now you can used Holmgang, Shake it Off, Fell Cleave and so on for your portrait.

One extra pack of each job so you can choose for the jobs you want, and with a high'ish price tag so it's something you can dump trophies into.

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Originally Posted by Kisshu

They already have the job frames tied to PVP where you also get the PVP limit-break emote.

So I think they should add a second set of "frames", but this time it unlocks all the job's abilities for the portraits.

So first you buy the WAR frame for 1.5k, then you can buy the more expensive (say 5k) WAR ability pack and now you can used Holmgang, Shake it Off, Fell Cleave and so on for your portrait.

One extra pack of each job so you can choose for the jobs you want, and with a high'ish price tag so it's something you can dump trophies into.

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I mean, yeah, I agree. They should add more things to the vendor like additional job action/emotes for portraits. Great idea. Buuut, I also think that 5k for an entire pack of portrait abilities is too generous. If keeping Trophy Crystals relevant is the goal, I'd say they should cost like 10k per ability; but that's just me, trying to give a reason for the currency to be desirable beyond the series rank 25 award.

TBH, I expected the devs to go crazy with portrait accent additions the same way they seem to with minions and TT cards, but they seem pretty slow with adding to it (in all content, not just PvP) given how ridiculous they went for /gpose. To me, adding already existing abilities and emotes for adventurer plates seem like a quick and dirty (and effective) carrot to get people to run content that simply reuses existing assets. I mean, nobody is going to see your favorite minion or TT collection in duties, but everyone is going to see your glamour portraits...

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Originally Posted by Cidel

I mean, yeah, I agree. They should add more things to the vendor like additional job action/emotes for portraits. Great idea. Buuut, I also think that 5k for an entire pack of portrait abilities is too generous. If keeping Trophy Crystals relevant is the goal, I'd say they should cost like 10k per ability; but that's just me, trying to give a reason for the currency to be desirable beyond the series rank 25 award.

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Sorry, but 10k per ability would be way too much. You need to find a good middleground between something to pump extra trophies into without making it the near sole focus.

At present we can get 28k trophies before going into endless, or 19k if you're just going for lv25. That would mean it's 5 or 3 5k-packs for a series you could buy, with some extra to spare. And with 19 jobs at the moment that would mean it's 4-7 series to get all packs depending on your grind.

How about animation kits so we can choose how our skills look like, officially? Notable examples:

PLD - Rage of Halone, Savage Blade, Flash
WAR - Butcher's Block, Brutal Swing
DRK - Scourge, HW Delirium, Power Slash
GNB - old weapon sounds because they sounded better *hysterical laughter*

Im only half joking tbh.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Agreed. If nothing else, it needs proper currency sink and/or non-glamour rewards that are attractive to buy. I don't dislike the glamour, but it kinda felt a bit uninspired.

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Doesn't help that most of the glamour available are just straight reskins of other available sets in-game. At least the one's we've gotten recently. I'm all for a higher-res rework of some classics but some of the sets are just really recent, level 1 alternative color pallets. We definitely need some new rewards, PVP isn't in the state where I'd play it for fun as a main focus without incentive.