why the crystal tower raids are still part of the roulette?

just get them to the msq roulette or delete over all and make it solo content.
its impossible to use the alliance raids roulette any more , all you get is this trash crystal tower raids.
how long are we as players going to except such trash?
i know the yoshi fan boys will love it as they even love yoshi crap directly on them. but the rest of the players need to stop take it.:mad:

People have been begging CT to be moved to MSQ roulette since it's mandatory for MSQ. People also want CT because it takes less time to complete for the same reward in comparison to other alliance raids.

I'm tired of CT, every time I get it, I wanna throw up. It's not fun when your kit is limited to maybe 4 skills.

I agree but it's been years and they won't do shit. In fact, they exacerbate the issue by making CT an MSQ requirement and a bozja relic soft-requirement. There are a million reasons for someone to trap you in their crystal tower shit-run. Meanwhile if you want to queue anything else, it might take 30+ minutes to pop because in stark contrast, there's no requirement for the void ark series, there's barely a requirement to do ivalice (bozja is gated behind it, but since it's optional there's not exactly a line of people queuing orbonne), the nier stuff has -no- reason to run it at all outside of ... just, being interested.

All I'll say is, I've noticed when dps is in need for alliance raid roulette, I tend to get fun stuff more often. I'd say "just queue directly for the good raids," but thanks to how skewed the roulette is, the good raids take forever to pop. Shit sucks. Prepare for a deluge of people who will spin getting the same raid in a "roulette" every day as a good thing because they log in to play the game as little as possible.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

I agree but it's been years and they won't do shit. In fact, they exacerbate the issue by making CT an MSQ requirement and a bozja relic soft-requirement. There are a million reasons for someone to trap you in their crystal tower shit-run. Meanwhile if you want to queue anything else, it might take 30+ minutes to pop because in stark contrast, there's no requirement for the void ark series, there's barely a requirement to do ivalice (bozja is gated behind it, but since it's optional there's not exactly a line of people queuing orbonne), the nier stuff has -no- reason to run it at all outside of ... just, being interested.

All I'll say is, I've noticed when dps is in need for alliance raid roulette, I tend to get fun stuff more often. I'd say "just queue directly for the good raids," but thanks to how skewed the roulette is, the good raids take forever to pop. Shit sucks. Prepare for a deluge of people who will spin getting the same raid in a "roulette" every day as a good thing because they log in to play the game as little as possible.

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ye mostly that, but i don't get this people. why they even pay for a game they hate to play?

I think the better option is just buff it to be 3x harder that way its more enjoyable when you get it.

If you do your alliance roulette immediately after reset you're probably going to get all the CT rushers who just want to get it done and over with.

If you do them later during the day/night you're more likely to get something else.

Probably doesn't help if you don't want to change your schedule or anything though.

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Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders

I think the better option is just buff it to be 10x harder that way its more enjoyable when you get it.

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Fixed that for you.

I find Nier comes up fairly regularly, probably just because of the glamour. The story certainly isn't doing it any favors. Haven't seen Ivalice or Aglaia in a while (pretty sure Euphrosyne isn't in roulette yet; could be wrong, all I know is I haven't had it come up). The Mhach raids come up occasionally.

Unfortunately, Crystal Tower being required for the MSQ means everyone has to unlock it, so anyone who doesn't know about the others, or just doesn't bother, will drag everyone into it. Even leaving aside people who cheat their item level down to game the system.

I got weeping city last night. I've gotten Nier raids and stormblood raids more than CT raids in the last week.

I don't mind.

I would rather do a quick semi AFK 15 minutes CT than waste my precious time in a Nier raid.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Fixed that for you.

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I was just making an estimate to how much would make it more enjoyable, but ya I think it just needs to be buffed out the ass. Honestly I feel like that with most content it needs a little bit a buff, I get it shouldnt super hard but I would like to have to use my brain when playing through the game even just a little. I love the story and don't get me wrong it is nice. However I think they could do a better job with fights in general instend of dodge x , heal y, tank buff at z and kill W.

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

just get them to the msq roulette or delete over all and make it solo content.
its impossible to use the alliance raids roulette any more , all you get is this trash crystal tower raids.
how long are we as players going to except such trash?
i know the yoshi fan boys will love it as they even love yoshi crap directly on them. but the rest of the players need to stop take it.:mad:

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translation: waaah, crystal tower is part of the ALLIANCE RAID ROULETTE and i GET IT SO MUCH IM SICK OF IT so instead of not queueing I WILL JUST TAKE TO THE FORUMS TO WHINE ABOUT IT.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

translation: waaah, crystal tower is part of the ALLIANCE RAID ROULETTE and i GET IT SO MUCH IM SICK OF IT so instead of not queueing I WILL JUST TAKE TO THE FORUMS TO WHINE ABOUT IT.

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-Insert Insults about how you are a Shill, a Bootlicker, YoshiP is a God, and how you like crap and copium and blahblahblah how dare you not agree with me-

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

-Insert Insults about how you are a Shill, a Bootlicker, YoshiP is a God, and how you like crap and copium and blahblahblah how dare you not agree with me-

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*inserts laugh*

I'm a simple man. If I see CT/LotA...I eat the penalty and leave so the rest of my party won't have to eat the penalty and can freely try again if they like.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

*inserts laugh*

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Hey, No Laughing White Knight. Thats a crime against humanity, you are a Trash Person
(I jest)

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'm a simple man. If I see CT/LotA...I eat the penalty and leave so the rest of my party won't have to eat the penalty and can freely try again if they like.

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The hero we need, but not the hero we deserve. Thank you for your sacrifice.

I do this too, depending on my mood and whether or not there are any new players in the instance. If I'm not needed and could actually do a fun instance later, I'll take the penalty.

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Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders

I was just making an estimate to how much would make it more enjoyable, but ya I think it just needs to be buffed out the ass. Honestly I feel like that with most content it needs a little bit a buff, I get it shouldnt super hard but I would like to have to use my brain when playing through the game even just a little. I love the story and don't get me wrong it is nice. However I think they could do a better job with fights in general instend of dodge x , heal y, tank buff at z and kill W.

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They need to bring things up to what Orbornne was before they started castrating it.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'm a simple man. If I see CT/LotA...I eat the penalty and leave so the rest of my party won't have to eat the penalty and can freely try again if they like.

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Same when I do go for that roulette. I have actually stopped queuing for alliance roulette lately because I honestly can't be bothered with taking the penalty anymore.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

They need to bring things up to what Orbornne was before they started castrating it.



Same when I do go for that roulette. I have actually stopped queuing for alliance roulette lately because I honestly can't be bothered with taking the penalty anymore.

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i would love og TG back to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'm a simple man. If I see CT/LotA...I eat the penalty and leave so the rest of my party won't have to eat the penalty and can freely try again if they like.

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For me this is Copied Factory.
Sometimes The Ridorana Lighthouse.
I just dont find these raids fun at all.

Orbonne Monastery at a 50%, I just hate the 1st half. I love the 2nd half at Mr Orlandou

I tend to drop from Paradigm's Breach because it gives me a headache. Anything else, eh, I'll live with it.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

They need to bring things up to what Orbornne was before they started castrating it.



Same when I do go for that roulette. I have actually stopped queuing for alliance roulette lately because I honestly can't be bothered with taking the penalty anymore.

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personally i dont care much, but I will say I enjoy voidark way better than ct set. I just wish there was more to draw my attention so my stupid depressed mind would shut the fuck up but *shrugs* I guess I can just hop onto an rts to get my brainpower game on. its just exp to me now, if i fall asleep during it not my faulta.

I understand most people game for fun, and entertainment but personally i game to drown out my thoughts, and its hard to do that when the game is like simple math in combat situations, its always dodge x kill y, stand at w heal over z etc its more muscle memory than brainpower is my point

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

just get them to the msq roulette or delete over all and make it solo content.
its impossible to use the alliance raids roulette any more , all you get is this trash crystal tower raids.
how long are we as players going to except such trash?
i know the yoshi fan boys will love it as they even love yoshi crap directly on them. but the rest of the players need to stop take it.:mad:

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

ye mostly that, but i don't get this people. why they even pay for a game they hate to play?

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You ask a great question.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

You ask a great question.

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But haven't you heard? The only people who actually enjoy the game are the ones who endlessly complain about it, everyone else is a bunch of Yoshi-worshipping sheep high on copium.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

there's no requirement for the void ark series

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This is incorrect as of Endwalker. The Tataru sidequest series does. This is one avenue they can continue down. Make more sidequests do things like the Tataru side quests that go back and visit specific old content so they're required to unlock. There was a huge rush in Void Ark for me in AR right before that step of the series came out because people like Tataru and want to be able to do her sidequest series.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This is incorrect as of Endwalker. The Tataru sidequest series does. This is one avenue they can continue down. Make more sidequests do things like the Tataru side quests that go back and visit specific old content so they're required to unlock. There was a huge rush in Void Ark for me in AR right before that step of the series came out because people like Tataru and want to be able to do her sidequest series.

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Pretty sure the Tataru quests will continue to add in the requirement for the alliance raids, which considering it in itself is side content, will probably limit the number of "why are these raids required" responses...but there will still be a lot who complain that the quest is locked behind raids.

I instantly quit any of the Nier raids.

They are just too long.

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But haven't you heard? The only people who actually enjoy the game are the ones who endlessly complain about it, everyone else is a bunch of Yoshi-worshipping sheep high on copium.

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you forgot white knighting company shills who guzzle the supplied kool-aid

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

you forgot white knighting company shills who guzzle the supplied kool-aid

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Don't forget those who said they were quitting but low and behold they're still here paying a sub and creating threads on the forum.

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

ye mostly that, but i don't get this people. why they even pay for a game they hate to play?

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Got to love this one.

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Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders

I think the better option is just buff it to be 3x harder that way its more enjoyable when you get it.

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not really as you dont have so much skills

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Don't forget those who said they were quitting but low and behold they're still here paying a sub and creating threads on the forum.

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those ones.. the ones that complain about literally everything... I have no words of description for to be honest. thats not love for a game, its something else and likely requires a professional and an intervention...

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Originally Posted by Pratini

I don't mind.

I would rather do a quick semi AFK 15 minutes CT than waste my precious time in a Nier raid.

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wy you even play games then? its sound like you hate the game as you want to play as less as you can

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

But haven't you heard? The only people who actually enjoy the game are the ones who endlessly complain about it, everyone else is a bunch of Yoshi-worshipping sheep high on copium.

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not the point. time and time people bring that they like to play dungeons/raids/trials as less time as possible to do other things. not in game as i get it. or just afk in limsa.

The only alliance raid I will actually just leave is Copied Factory. I'm trying to have fun, not die of boredom. Crystal Tower could have it's max ilv decreased to make it more fun, but tbh I've never understood why some people have such a strong hatred for it. Copied Factory is much worse. I'd rather beat up lv 50 bosses and be out in around 20min than be stuck in the Copium Factory with Engels for 40.

I will take ANY OTHER RAID over getting CT for the umpteenth time and suddenly see a bunch of hp bars empty out before the gate drops. Like lately I've seen too many live nudes in LoTA. Please put some clothes on before you get out of your moghouse.

magitekLuna's entire post history at this point is starting to sound like "I want YoshiP to personally break into every newbie's house and shoot them in the head for daring to inconvenience me".

No, being seriously, while I agree the ways people exploit roulette is a problem, there is still a strong point that even in a perfect world where everyone has every single raid roulette unlocked, the bottom denominator would always be the most common by a wide margin, by nature of being the bottom denominator, if you removed CT, Shadows of Mnach would be most common, and you'd get people complaining that they've done Dun Scaith 200 times already and they are tired of it, and what you do then? every roulette has this issue, 50/60/70/80 and leveling roulette are predominantly ARR content, normal roulettes is predominantly Alexander, there isn't really a way to give you the fix you want, it'd be just a temporary solution.

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

wy you even play games then? its sound like you hate the game as you want to play as less as you can

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What the hell are you talking about?

Hating doing some specific Semi-AFK content for easy XP = Hating the game?

You do know Alliance Raids are a joke right? The majority of people don't give a flying f. I'm sorry if thats peak gameplay for you lmao...

And I don't want to play "the less I can", I want to do the things I actually want instead of waste 40 minutes in a Nier raid when I can get the same experience from a 15 min Crystal Tower raid. That's 25 minutes I could be doing retainers, subs, EX trials, beast tribes, etc.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

The only alliance raid I will actually just leave is Copied Factory. I'm trying to have fun, not die of boredom. Crystal Tower could have it's max ilv decreased to make it more fun, but tbh I've never understood why some people have such a strong hatred for it. Copied Factory is much worse. I'd rather beat up lv 50 bosses and be out in around 20min than be stuck in the Copium Factory with Engels for 40.

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Yeah. I only stay for the music when I get Copied Factory.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Pretty sure the Tataru quests will continue to add in the requirement for the alliance raids, which considering it in itself is side content, will probably limit the number of "why are these raids required" responses...but there will still be a lot who complain that the quest is locked behind raids.

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8 mans, too. I don't remember if the Live Letter specifically mentioned it would be required but given who they showed I wouldn't be surprised if that series was required to do first.

I do not particularly mind them, though I do prefer when one of the other raids pop up (I seem to be one of the few who likes the Nier raids haha) and it would be nice if they could somehow make non-CT raids more likely, given how people will cheat to get quicker runs. Honestly, I think I would like them to rework CT into 4-man content with Duty support in the future, given how they are mandatory unlike all the other raids.