My thoughts on FATEs are similar to my thoughts on guildhests and guildleves. I would like to see the system repurposed rather than replaced. I actually like the idea of turning fates into critical engagements like you would find in bozja and zadnar. Being able to participate and be teleported regardless of your position on the map is way more appealing than it's current state. Also them being more than glorified trash pulls is more appealing also.
To go along with this I would like to see normal trash in the world become significantly improved. Instead of being monsters you can go afk and let your chocobo kill, how about we upgrade them to be large significant monsters that perform very basic mechanics. Make them guarentee drops so if people need to farm them for mats its both more interesting and more reliable.
Idk just some thoughts I had that I thought would make the open world and fates more fun/interesting. What are your ideas?!
FATEs and how they should change
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02-22-2023, 04:39 AMNobuyuki_SanadaFATEs and how they should change
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02-27-2023, 03:02 AMRaijinThunder
They could do something similar to how guild wars 2 does its open-world events. Maybe start having fates that have monsters attacking the cities. Have more meaningful rewards like poetics, new styles, mounts, and materials.
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02-27-2023, 05:02 AMPayadopa
Man... I'd love for the overworld to get the Bozja treatment. It's already in the game! Just copy/paste dungeon bosses. It's a crime.
I agree. In GW2 they are fun. The only mildly interesting one I can remember is near Camp Drybone on the bridge where NPCs get kidnapped or something. And that was during ARR. EW and ShB tried but [Holy Sheltron] is it shallow.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaijinThunder
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02-28-2023, 11:05 PMdspguy
I sort of liked how FFXI had those campaign events and that other one where the monsters would attack the city itself. It would be interesting if FATEs actually had an effect on the zone itself. I don't know what would make sense for this particular game, but I recall that in FFXI (broken record), if no city "owned" a particular region, there was no way to obtain some item needed for an oft-used item, making everyone on the server suffer due to the supply plummeting.
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03-08-2023, 04:27 PMKatherineOrnitier
I do agree more interesting fates would be nice but I feel they did all that in bozja and zadnar. Which is why I think those should also drop some Gem stones.
But what they have currently even if it was something like passive benefits where they could give a damage, def, gathering boost while in the area or something for a limited time. Giving the more reasons to do them even if you're not farming them. -
10-16-2023, 05:19 PMLusaraeMy idea for it is to just merge Guildhests with FATEs. If I queue for Mentor/Guildhests then I could get teleported directly to the FATE that a player out in the overworld needs help with. Change up the reward system to maybe give you some gems and up the overall rewards to make it more attractive. You can basically do most of the dungeons with AI but you can't exactly summon AI to help you clear the FATES. It's a shame how many of these interesting encounters I have to just walk right on by when leveling or exploring just because I know I can't solo it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada
Maybe they could do a better job at categorizing them too. So you can have stuff that any class can solo just be something that doesn't have an option to ask for help with. While the stuff that NEEDS groups can. -
10-16-2023, 10:56 PMSargeTheSeagull
If absolutely nothing else, FATEs should reward tomestones at max level.
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10-16-2023, 11:00 PMElissarThat would make sense if we had more stuff to do with our iLVL.Quote:
Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull
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10-20-2023, 01:53 AMArohk
Fates should be the same as Bozja/Zadnor Fates, and also spawn world bosses similar to Bozja, really they are such a boring grind, who ever did Bozja should be in Charge for Fates too.
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11-03-2023, 12:21 AMLalaheeWait, I haven't been keeping up with XIV as of late, they are removing guildhests and guildleves in 7.0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada
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11-03-2023, 08:01 AMAstrahimeThe only "Proof" of this is a reddit post from 5 months ago that asked whether they were. SE has said nothing about the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalahee
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11-05-2023, 04:55 AMCidHeiral
I would certainly like the FATE system to be expanded into more interesting outdoor events. I played a bit of WoW Dragonflight recently and I much enjoyed the World Event system there. Sure, there were plenty of "kill X number of Y" events, but there were also ones where I had to fly through some bugs in the air, participate in a food fight, etc.
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11-13-2023, 06:32 AMTracewood
Been working on getting my jobs to 90, after running out of daily roulettes my only options are to run dungeons near my current level, the "Deep Dungeon" styled content which includes Bozja/Zadnor, and FATEs to get the weekly challenge for a couple decent bumps of EXP.
That being said, FATEs are fine if you really want to take your time leveling, though I think there needs to be some incentives to grind those instead of running a dungeon for the fifth time with trusts or players. Maybe include a FATE board, similar to hunt boards, you have a daily FATE board, limit 3-5 a day where you do a number of fates in a given area for a very large chunk of XP, about like 2/3's of a dungeon of your current level.
Let the rewards for those be allied/centurio seals, and of course quantities of gil. -
11-18-2023, 09:55 AMNekoMataMataThere's actually a lot of incentives to grind FATEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracewood
There are certain big boss FATEs that last 30 minutes and give achievements, as well as sometimes currencies for purchasable items, or sometimes outright dropping minions or orchestration rolls.
ShB and EW introduced the shared fate system, along with the gems.
And 3 out of 5 relic weapons have steps that involve fates, although admittedly the "step" in ShB relics that involves SB fates is one time only.
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11-18-2023, 01:21 PMLuluya
It would be nice if the FATES prior to SHB were more rewarding, or at least the difficult and/or longer weird ones like The Magitek is Back, in the Peaks. It has no achievement and is the only Chase FATE in the game as far as I know yet gives nothing other than the regular FATE rewards. That's the most prominent one that comes to mind, though I know there are quite a few FATES in HW that take quite longer than ARR FATES due to kill credit for some reason not counting as much.
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11-18-2023, 03:16 PMNekoMataMataYou sure those fates were scaled properly for your group? That's one thing I would like to see changed. Remove fate scaling for groups under 3 people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luluya
Right now whenever I'm solo farming fates rather than farming with a fate train anywhere seeing someone else join is usually more irritating than it should be. There's a lot of people in this game that randomly join fates if they see someone else, even though they have no intention of sticking around in that zone and farming. This means that the next time the fate spawns it'll be scaled for 2 with only one person.
I don't think it's up to people to know this, and obviously it'd be rude to tell people to leave and whatever. It's more on the game. I should be happy to see someone else joining and helping, even if they probably won't stick around, rather than being bothered by it.