Eureka is totally unplayable now

There are more than 2/3 people are bots in Eureka now.
They aren't only breaking economy of this game, but also make people need take 15 minutes to trigger a NM and take another 15 minutes to beat them.

And what is even worse is the handling of SEs
Even if you spend 20 minutes writing down all the bots IDs and report.
Those bots are still alive weeks later.
They will never be banned because SE don't care at all.

If the officials don't think Eureka is worth any of your work.
PLEASE JUST DELETE EUREKA!


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For those one who can't image how does these bots impact NM difficulty.

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Been doing Eureka for the last couple days. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. I've run into some bots, but for the most part the place is way less vile than it used to be. People remain active, and most of them are quite courteous. You've got your occasional douche that insists on pulling everything instantly, but that is to be expected. We let those people die. >_>

Oh, and Pagos can return to whatever burning dumpster hell dimension it came from.

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Originally Posted by Greysuki

Eureka is totally unplayable now

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Maybe you're just on a dead/bot-infested DC but Eureka on Aether is perfectly playable. Try DC hopping over here and seeing if it's any better.

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Originally Posted by Greysuki

PLEASE JUST DELETE EUREKA!

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Why? I fail to see why bots would be a reason to delete an entire gamemode.

Remove the gil from those bunny chests.

It still wouldn’t do anything to the lockbox botters though.

Oh and.. if that really happens gotta say goodbye to one of the easiest, braindead money maker :c

Oh, bots reappear in Eureka?
Yea, SE really has a problem to get rid of them.

But beside that, 1-3 bots will not make Eureka unplayable.
NM spawning is mostly random and you need 30-60+ monster Kills to spawn them, not matter if you are alone or in full instance.

And when you need 15 min to kill a Fate, then there are other problems then a few bots.
Maybe you are underleveled, or you do everything alone instead of going with the other player's, or you don't spin your element wheel into the offensive element/ have it set to 1/1/1/1/1 instead of all into one.

Also, Eureka and BA are one of the most active side contents.
It is easier to find a group to clear BA then it is for PotD/HoH, DRs or to just play rival wings.

In fact, there are more than "only" 1-3 robots
There are usually 24/30 are bots in Gaia and I have seen 46/50 are bots.
More and more people give up EW in JP because they need more than 15 minutes to kill NM bosses in Pagaos and Pyros.
Because the NM bosses HP is based on numbers of people in Eureka, and 4 human can't do any damage even if you have full Eureka+2 gears.

This thread always pops up every so often. You want a solution? Stop caring about the bots because they will do nothing about it. Move to a more populated server or play Eureka during prime times. Reporting anything in this game is a waste of your time.

24 are a few more then the 2-3 you said initially.

Are they really bots and not just player's who only do the bunny fate?

I remember that EU had about 10 bots last year for a couple of months.
They are finally mostly gone now.

Tbh, I can't imagine that a JP DC has a bigger problem then NA and EU.

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Originally Posted by Greysuki

There are more than 2/3 people are bots in Eureka now.
They aren't only breaking economy of this game, but also make people need take 15 minutes to trigger a NM and take another 15 minutes to beat them.

And what is even worse is the handling of SEs
Even if you spend 20 minutes writing down all the bots IDs and report.
Those bots are still alive weeks later.
They will never be banned because SE don't care at all.

If the officials don't think Eureka is worth any of your work.
PLEASE JUST DELETE EUREKA!

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Maybe it's time that they changed Eureka so it doesn't encourage this anymore.

But cutting the grind down tenfold.

I did Eureka not long ago for my Drk weapon and never did see any bots there. Only problem I found in there was most the time there was 20 or less players in it.

I recently did Eureka start to finish, including BA cleared, and while I did see bots, it is hardly "unplayable", it is rougher in Dynamis but I can always DC hop.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

I can find farm groups almost any day and almost any time. There's dead time but it's active content, at least in Primal.

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Farm groups, but no levelling groups. It's content gatekept by 40+ hours of solo levelling.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Been doing Eureka for the last couple days. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. I've run into some bots, but for the most part the place is way less vile than it used to be. People remain active, and most of them are quite courteous. You've got your occasional douche that insists on pulling everything instantly, but that is to be expected. We let those people die. >_>

Oh, and Pagos can return to whatever burning dumpster hell dimension it came from.

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Point is you shouldn't have to deal with them at all.

Bots have plagued Eureka for years now and CBU3 has done little to curb them which in turn encourages them more.

I guess their "improved detection" methods didn't do squat to address them.

The only bots that seemed to be impacted by that change were the hordes of FSH bots in Mare Lamentorum.

When I did Eureka there were 2 bots in particular who were there pretty much constantly for months.

They were 100% bots, unresponsive and when the Fate triggered they just followed a set route and single targeted each mob down. They then went on a set path to every possible spawn location in the initial given direction, one by one and used the carrot until it worked. If there weren't any other people doing the fate, they would simply single target the mobs until the bunnies died and the FATE failed, then wait 10 minutes, repeat and fail again.

Somehow SE couldn't detect bots here.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Remove the gil from those bunny chests.

It still wouldn’t do anything to the lockbox botters though.

Oh and.. if that really happens gotta say goodbye to one of the easiest, braindead money maker :c

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Yep, it's a lot more difficult to do than it looks like. Removing a major source of easy currency is likely to result in turning off new and returning players (although it's debated just how much so the bunny chests actually are in the grand scheme).

But the situation to be wary of is this:

Imagine if in order to strangle bots, new players have their income streams heavily curtailed as well. Instead of the fairly breezy situation gil has come to be for veterans, they have to scrimp and save to even hope to afford a house at some point, or maybe even an apartment or endgame raid gear.

Aetheryte tickets become much more important in this regard, so Hunt Trains swell, and disagreements over the handling of A/S ranks, "snipers/early pullers" etc. flare up still further now that people are actually depending on those tickets not as a convenience but as a major source of effective income.

MB prices might increase, expecting you'll make a decent penny from current content, as is the case in WoW - to take another danger from that game, greed might easily take over other aspects of the game (for instance, raiders beginning to expect payment-for-services when they help someone - especially a first timer with fewer options - clear, making the endgame atmosphere significantly more mercenary, less helpful, and in general negative).

This is mitigated, of course, by the fact that the number of things you can ONLY obtain with gil are much more limited in XIV (since in WoW every tier features the obligatory "you must spend tens of thousands of gold on these special vendor-only mats" to doubtlessly - in combination with an economy manipulated through turning off old gold spigots - spur Token movement, while in XIV, most or all of this sort of "special sauce" is acquired through uncapped Tomestones), but still. It's a less trivial matter than you'd think.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Farm groups, but no levelling groups. It's content gatekept by 40+ hours of solo levelling.

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There's leveling groups in Pagos, Pyros and Hydatos, just not usually Anemos.

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Originally Posted by Curisu

24 are a few more then the 2-3 you said initially.

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He said 2/3 which means two thirds aka 66%.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Farm groups, but no levelling groups. It's content gatekept by 40+ hours of solo levelling.

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After Pagos it just reflect farming, so it's not 40+ hours.

I've run into bots but I've also just run into people intentionally trying to kill others and dragging bosses away, I've seen people be openly racist, sexist and homophobic in shout chat and boy howdy have I had an insane amount of /tells from doorknobs who feel the need to "inform" you that hey, that class you changed to temporarily just to go revive a friend? it's missing the eureka armour! you're missing your eureka armour!! don't you know how bad that is!!!! go buy the armour!!!!!!!

drives me insane.

also there's a LOT of people just bickering in /shout like, non-stop. i've never seen so many people just straight up at eachother's throats. it's particularly crazy in pyros lately.

Once I hit ~ 13/14 in Anemos (maybe an hour) there was a nice guy in Aether DC that was working on all weapons so he would collect 14+ players on his team and run through killing things about his level and prepping NMs. Very very good xp. Was out of Anemos in couple hours total. Pagos - get a few levels under your belt then look for groups at your level or just 1-2 above. It helps if you are a healer if they are above your level and tank if you are the highest level. Then Pyros - your only task is to get to 41. At 41 look up reflect farming. I got from 41-47 in about 16 minutes. It definitely felt like cheating but it’s not. Then NM groups from 47-50. Hydatos look for mobs that adapt / mutate as when they do yo get 2-4 x the XP. Some have conditions like weather or time of day. There are resources to figure that out. It’s a toss up here whether it’s faster to group or solo (the right mobs). About 54/55 take any NM you can here. The crystals are much slower so you’ll need more NMs to get your armor and weapons done. It is possible and it is fun. Swap DCs if you join and its a dead group or there are jerks there. One thing about Aether is they are famous for instapulling NMs. I was just at one tonight and the prep group (they are far away - its an unusual one) didnt get to the NM before it was dead. A whole bunch of really terrible people. Anyway, as you get high level if you are having trouble with instapulled NMs before you get there just avoid Aether. It is not always but it can be super terrible.