Inability to obtain a house is making my interest in playing this game wane.

Im a long time player, been around in one form or another since 1.0. I've run all the content that I can without a FC and am very pleased with the game, for the most part anyway. Really the only goal I still have is home ownership. In all the time I've been playing I've always wanted a house but either through lack of botting, or lack of luck have never been able to obtain one. When they open up new wards its always so hopeful and exciting, then ultimately disappointing. I don't understand why it is a design choice to have a part of the game that is only accessible to 10% of the population. Would it really be so difficult to implement instance housing so everyone can have a house? They have the apartment system which is basically that. Why not expand the apartment system so you can upgrade it from apartment >> small >> medium >> large if you have the gil. The devs know there is nothing else to spend this pile of gil on in this game.

At this point I'm just logging in, seeing that I didn't get a house again and logging back out. I'll pop back in when the lottery opens back up. If this keeps up, I wont be sticking around for much longer.

Might I interest you in a (free for you, since you're on Crystal!) transfer to Dynamis? If you're not going to be playing otherwise anyway and you're not particularly attached to a content group like an FC, I don't see what you have to lose.

That said, yes, it can be that difficult to convert a non-instanced system to an instanced one. As the years tick by, I should think it increasingly difficult to believe that they're doing it out of sheer stubbornness - particularly considering the fact that they've steadfastly avoided even commenting on the concept. That's not something you do if you're outright dismissive of a popular idea.

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Originally Posted by Rinkuu

Im a long time player, been around in one form or another since 1.0. I've run all the content that I can without a FC and am very pleased with the game, for the most part anyway. Really the only goal I still have is home ownership. In all the time I've been playing I've always wanted a house but either through lack of botting, or lack of luck have never been able to obtain one. When they open up new wards its always so hopeful and exciting, then ultimately disappointing. I don't understand why it is a design choice to have a part of the game that is only accessible to 10% of the population. Would it really be so difficult to implement instance housing so everyone can have a house? They have the apartment system which is basically that. Why not expand the apartment system so you can upgrade it from apartment >> small >> medium >> large if you have the gil. The devs know there is nothing else to spend this pile of gil on in this game.

At this point I'm just logging in, seeing that I didn't get a house again and logging back out. I'll pop back in when the lottery opens back up. If this keeps up, I wont be sticking around for much longer.

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As the previous poster said, Dynamis is right there if you are THAT interested in having a house at all cost, feel free to move there, it's free too.

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Originally Posted by Rinkuu

If this keeps up, I wont be sticking around for much longer.

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See you tomorrow OP!

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Originally Posted by Rinkuu

Im a long time player, been around in one form or another since 1.0. I've run all the content that I can without a FC and am very pleased with the game, for the most part anyway. Really the only goal I still have is home ownership. In all the time I've been playing I've always wanted a house but either through lack of botting, or lack of luck have never been able to obtain one. When they open up new wards its always so hopeful and exciting, then ultimately disappointing. I don't understand why it is a design choice to have a part of the game that is only accessible to 10% of the population. Would it really be so difficult to implement instance housing so everyone can have a house? They have the apartment system which is basically that. Why not expand the apartment system so you can upgrade it from apartment >> small >> medium >> large if you have the gil. The devs know there is nothing else to spend this pile of gil on in this game.

At this point I'm just logging in, seeing that I didn't get a house again and logging back out. I'll pop back in when the lottery opens back up. If this keeps up, I wont be sticking around for much longer.

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I think most of us agree it should be easier for players to get houses.

Going the "I'm going to hold my subscription hostage if you won't give me a house" route never works because developers know that it's not a single piece of content that keeps players engaged in a MMO.

Clearly you don't have friends that you enjoy playing the game with or you wouldn't be threatening to quit. So transfer to Maduin, Marilith or Halicarnassus and you will be able to get a house.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

Might I interest you in a (free for you, since you're on Crystal!) transfer to Dynamis? If you're not going to be playing otherwise anyway and you're not particularly attached to a content group like an FC, I don't see what you have to lose.

That said, yes, it can be that difficult to convert a non-instanced system to an instanced one. As the years tick by, I should think it increasingly difficult to believe that they're doing it out of sheer stubbornness - particularly considering the fact that they've steadfastly avoided even commenting on the concept. That's not something you do if you're outright dismissive of a popular idea.

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Is the solution only to transfer server?

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

Is the solution only to transfer server?

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If you really want a house, yes because you can always visit your old world if you're coming from any other NA world. Your linkshells and such will still be there so you can stay in touch whenever you visit your old data center. Dynamis also needs more players to move to help fill it up and the new wards that have been filled on all the other data centers have not yet opened for bidding. You still have time to save up and bid on a larger plot with a high chance of winning since I won a large in Seraph with my bid being the only one and that's the fullest of the new worlds on Dynamis. As mentioned already, it's free to move all your characters, just gotta wait three days apart when moving multiple characters and you also get 10 gold Choco feathers too.

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

Is the solution only to transfer server?

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Depends on circumstances for the individual and how badly they want a house now instead of waiting until they manage to win the lottery.

In the OP's case, it's a definite solution based on what they've said. There's nothing else keeping them interested in the game so they're not going to lose anything by transferring to get a house.

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Originally Posted by Rinkuu

Im a long time player, been around in one form or another since 1.0. I've run all the content that I can without a FC and am very pleased with the game, for the most part anyway. Really the only goal I still have is home ownership. In all the time I've been playing I've always wanted a house but either through lack of botting, or lack of luck have never been able to obtain one. When they open up new wards its always so hopeful and exciting, then ultimately disappointing. I don't understand why it is a design choice to have a part of the game that is only accessible to 10% of the population. Would it really be so difficult to implement instance housing so everyone can have a house? They have the apartment system which is basically that. Why not expand the apartment system so you can upgrade it from apartment >> small >> medium >> large if you have the gil. The devs know there is nothing else to spend this pile of gil on in this game.

At this point I'm just logging in, seeing that I didn't get a house again and logging back out. I'll pop back in when the lottery opens back up. If this keeps up, I wont be sticking around for much longer.

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There's loads of houses in Goblet that have no bids and on different wards. Not gonna take a photo of all of them.

If you are without a free company and don't mind playing solo, why not make your own solo free company? You can share items and Gil with alts, try out all the features and eventually get a free company house in ward 25 or 1-6, which are reserved for free companies only and are pretty empty.

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Originally Posted by Rinoa_353

If you really want a house, yes because you can always visit your old world if you're coming from any other NA world. Your linkshells and such will still be there so you can stay in touch whenever you visit your old data center. Dynamis also needs more players to move to help fill it up and the new wards that have been filled on all the other data centers have not yet opened for bidding. You still have time to save up and bid on a larger plot with a high chance of winning since I won a large in Seraph with my bid being the only one and that's the fullest of the new worlds on Dynamis. As mentioned already, it's free to move all your characters, just gotta wait three days apart when moving multiple characters and you also get 10 gold Choco feathers too.

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I get your point.

Although let me say here something that no one said.

I think besides FC or Linkshells, certain worlds come with certain Prestige. I think some players like that prestige. Some worlds are like Legacy worlds that survived 1.0 calamity. Some worlds are known to be most populated or infamous for something specific like Balmung. Some worlds hosted popular streamers or celebrities.

So basically, it’s like being asked to transfer from Harvard to Concordia online college.

Just went to double check as I made the same ward mistake in another post. There is still lots of small personals too in the wards albeit Goblet. Checked 10 and 8/10 had 0 bids and 2 had 1 bid

I get that but if you really wanted a home, you'd pull the trigger and then you can always visit and play at your old world but that is just me. I came from Exodus (7 years total) and spent five years trying to upgrade to a larger plot losing every time, so I made the move and it worked out for me. I do miss Exodus since it's fuller but give it some time, especially for 7.0 and the release of the four other worlds on Dynamis this up coming summer (NA) and it should fill up. Even if you come from Balmung, you can always visit and log out there daily if you wanted. I would try bringing friends over (some of mine have) and create a new FC or such and then you can all visit your old world to play with those still there. One global data center travel is possible, it'll be a much easier decision to make in my opinion at that point to score a desired plot instead of going through the same frustrating cycle of losing at your current world. As the name implies, it's a lottery and lotteries are never easy to win too, that's just life.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Just went to double check as I made the same ward mistake in another post. There is still lots of small personals too in the wards albeit Goblet. Checked 10 and 8/10 had 0 bids and 2 had 1 bid

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Yep - my ward, on Phoenix, still has the two plots nearest my house vacant, and with zero bids.

This is probably something you don't wanna hear; but try for an apartment for now. I know they aren't sticking out like the houses in the game, but it will help if you got a creative outlet you need to cater to. I didn't have a house for almost 3 years because I wasn't about to be like those who bot camped a placard before the change. For me, an apartment was enough to enjoy. When I got my house from the lotto and decorated it; it was then that I felt like I beat the game because I got what I wanted. Its not all "hype" as people make it seem. Most want it because not everyone can get one, and not really because they wanna spend most of their time in a neighborhood that is usually dead. I am on crystal, and my ward is dead; so I am not speaking from a quiet server's perspective. That is my experience however, and maybe you find different joys in housing. All I can say is keep trying, and don't let this system in this game demoralize you from enjoying other aspects of it.