Retire from faction option...

I haven't been on the forums since shortly after our wonderful Naoki Yoshida took over, I did a couple search inquiries and couldn't find anything with any actual depth to this point.

But has there been any talk related to an option that allows you to retire from a faction (therefore allowing you to change alliegances to another grand company) to be later implemented?

I don't think so. I think the fact they allow you to do some of the early quests in each faction before pledging helps the player make up their mind. My understanding is that its a permanent choice.

The answer was Nope, no way, no how, get over it... Sorry. I too wish there was a way, but there are no plans for this.

If I had to guess, I think the GCs will be Disbanded in 2.0 what with the whole 7th Umbral Era story being fully woven into it. Buuuut, ya never know. They might change there mind.

That said, Yoshi did plan to implement a "free company" system in 2.0, which would allow more leniency in this.

I think you're missing the point.
Remember how you had to go and sit through a speech from each leader and them make your permanent decision?

There might be a way to get items from other companies later though.

They have no intention of allowing allegiance switching. You're not really missing anything anyway.

The "free company" system doesn't mean "freely change companies" it means player run companies.

I'm not complaining by any means. There were obvious points that made it seem permanent and It would be foolish to complain afterwards. This was simply a matter of curiosity.

I know no one wants to get into a "Well xi did this" topic. but it was nice to change city states to experience different storylines later on.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

If I had to guess, I think the GCs will be Disbanded in 2.0 what with the whole 7th Umbral Era story being fully woven into it. Buuuut, ya never know. They might change there mind.

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This is what I've been thinking. Which is a shame but makes sense. With the implementation of PCs. I would have liked to see the option, but with a big penalty / one time offer. After all it was hard to see reward wise what we were getting into, despite the trial of all 3 nations.

I had a very hard time deciding between immortal flames and the maelstrom, wish I could experience the story of all 3 lol.

Regardless of either I would pick there would always be a tiny feeling of regret for not choosing the other.

For all we know the only way to change faction would be paying for it.

Name Change $.$$
World Change $.$$
Race Change $.$$
Faction Change $.$$

90days time limit before change again.

I mean if they want to make money i see that being the best way.

For what its worth, in 2.0 we get multiple characters so if you want to see the storylines that badly you can just make extra characters for that purpose.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

If I had to guess, I think the GCs will be Disbanded in 2.0 what with the whole 7th Umbral Era story being fully woven into it. Buuuut, ya never know. They might change there mind.

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The war with the garleans is still there in 2.0 (I hope).
The grand companies were re-established because of the threat by the garleans. About project meteor they only learned later.
Don't forget, the grand companies were already in the plan before yoshida came to the team.

Grand Company still in 2.0? Yes I'm very sure. But with another quests.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

I don't think so. I think the fact they allow you to do some of the early quests in each faction before pledging helps the player make up their mind. My understanding is that its a permanent choice.

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Yes. And I hope that if you retire, you will be considered a traitor and you should get one hit kill by Odin every time you log in.

Tbh I really think their should be a lot more meaningful choices like this that do lock out other content, or effect it, or changing it should be a huge, huge effort to undo that if you can..

But then id also love to see all the other story from a outside point of view before 2.0.
- Meeting someone who was around to see the UL/LL/Grid openings and story that isn't where you started, an more story around them, same as seeing the other GC things from an outside PoV ect...


Personally I'm hoping the GC's are still about in a changed form, maybe related to world events and PC's are more PvP orientated in style (that's not saying forced PvP).
So we still have links to the past, but they are no longer the focus of it.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

For what its worth, in 2.0 we get multiple characters so if you want to see the storylines that badly you can just make extra characters for that purpose.

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This is what I was thinking, too. We could afford to have alts without them being the pain they were in FFXI.

With the new quests we now work more closely with other grand companies and can participate in each other's caravan runs.

I do not see it beyond the realm of reason that one day we would engage in a quest that would have our grand company 'lend' us to aid the other grand company (and therefore engage in all its quests).

(Although the rewards may still be of our own GC so that shopping is GC exclusive).

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Originally Posted by Estellios

For what its worth, in 2.0 we get multiple characters so if you want to see the storylines that badly you can just make extra characters for that purpose.

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To this: no. For someone to experience 'as much' of the game as possible on their one avatar/character, this is not a feasable option. And 'until' 2.0 we are restricted to 1 character due to billing at a normal subscription fee with no add-ons. When you take the broad scheme of achievements, completion of content, etc.. xi really did set the bar for being able to complete game content for story, and classes/jobs all one one character. xiv is more restricted by player choice currently to dissalow experience of all game content on one character, but as it currently stands you have to pay extra for another slot to play other stories and invest time into leveling a different character for really only that one purpose.

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Originally Posted by Asiaine

With the new quests we now work more closely with other grand companies and can participate in each other's caravan runs.

I do not see it beyond the realm of reason that one day we would engage in a quest that would have our grand company 'lend' us to aid the other grand company (and therefore engage in all its quests).

(Although the rewards may still be of our own GC so that shopping is GC exclusive).

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I know there are naysayers who would quickly dismiss this theory, and I am aware I speak to some enlightened souls, and the occasional troll... However, I don't think this is a bad idea. I would hate to see them fall down the path that wow laid down to pay for faction changes every so many days. Even if there was a penalty of losing all rank should you retire and having to start from scratch I'd see it a fair compromise for getting to experience all of the game content.

But the topic of 'if they did this/that' at this point is moot. It's far too late for content development considering no one truly knows what the future holds post 2.0. Things could be the same, they could be similar, they could be struggling, or they could be completely ripped up and not even matter.

Was being bombarded by 20 messages before joining the Grand Company not enough for you? Christ. You made a decision, one which Yoshi-P stressed would be a permanent on numerous occasions. Reroll a character if it means that much to you, or deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

I don't think so. I think the fact they allow you to do some of the early quests in each faction before pledging helps the player make up their mind. My understanding is that its a permanent choice.

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Thats no reason..

why? With 2.0. there will be -new- Grand Company Quests overall. you maybe will start from the first grand company quest on. maybe not. but we will see.

the world is also a complete new one. yes we should have chosen because of the grand companies philosophy and not because of the outward apperance of the specific region.. -_-
but to be honest, many did so.


when i chose a specific grand company, i also chose it because i want to fight for that region i prefer and like the most. and gridania was horrible in pre 2.0. and i dont know if i will like gridania in 2.0... in 2.0. gridania will look completely new, and what if Ul'dah will look like a complete wasteland and i dislike it then the most?
so i say there has to be an option.


i made this decision in an mostly complete other game. 2.0. and pre 2.0. are complete different shoes.
new players can chose with consideration to the new environment and me as an old player since beta cant? the game will change in its appearance for 80%.
the decision for a grand company is 60% of preferation for the region (for the faction) itself and 40% for liking their philosophy and story background... well just for me it is personally..


so why we cant have a new choice? "New" game = new choice. end of discussion

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Originally Posted by Estellios

For what its worth, in 2.0 we get multiple characters so if you want to see the storylines that badly you can just make extra characters for that purpose.

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Its not only about the story, you will also fight in PVP for your grand company.. and i want to fight for that company which i like the most THEN..

the world changes for 100%. i didnt chose gridania as grand company because gridania is really horrible NOW.. and what if Ul'dah is a complete grey wasteland in 2.0. and i dislike the story as well? 2.0. and pre 2.0. are different worlds.

so i want a complete new choice like new players also have... to take the complete new world into consideration of my choice.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

Was being bombarded by 20 messages before joining the Grand Company not enough for you? Christ. You made a decision, one which Yoshi-P stressed would be a permanent on numerous occasions. Reroll a character if it means that much to you, or deal with it.

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read the entire thread before leaving trash talk. I've said multiple times I'm not upset.. This is theorycrafting talk, not bickering or bi**hing.