White mages mini make pvp un fun

Mini is stupid it cannot be broken and last far to long. It basically completely locks a character and since it's not even a LB it's stupid as hell, get mini'd near the crystal that characters instant dead, because by the time mini is over you've been hit by about 3 characters GG

Honestly you could say it about every crowd control...

It's been nerfed 3-4 times already, both in duration and range. At this point, it's nothing when compared to the ridiculously broken CC a Ninja has - or being stun-locked for 8 seconds because Purify doesn't work correctly.

Just like the NIN LB it's been adjusted over and over and always in the wrong way. The last one which was range nods toward the intent of it being used defensively but it still dominates as a finisher coupled with seraph strike. It's the only crowd control effect not connected to a limit break that can't be purified which is goofy and has been since the start. This will probably never be resolved just like Seiton getting a stricter time limit rather than max charges or other methods of adjustment that make more sense. We're not even getting into the muddle of stacking LB stun into Miracle to capitalize on loss of player agency. Sorry OP this will probably never see a fix.

they need to go back to shadowbringers pvp with next to no stuns or crowd control. you could control your character during pvp.

apparently they thought that was bad game design?

it lasts 2 seconds and thanks to this games god awful delay its actual range is like 3 feet. its borderline useless unless youre already training someone

I actually do agree that miracle of nature is problematic. It generates a lot of abuses because purify doesn't work on it. I understand that it's supposed to be part of the identity of the ability and the job, but it really generates abuses. People already complain a lot about the staggering amount of hard stuns (leading to stunlocks) in the mode, and this one is the worst offender. It needs to change. They can even increase its range for that, I don't really care, but the unpurifyable quality it is needs to go, or change. 2s is still an eternity in a lot of cases.

Personally I think they should do the same thing that SWTOR did in PVP. They had stun breaks that everyone had but they had a diminishing return on CC, if you were hard CC'd 2-3 times you were then immune to all CC for I believe 10s. Also feel like they need to remove the instant heal or give it a 5s cooldown for all classes, if they did that sam's and ninja LB would be less of a problem, at the moment everyone is so damn tanky that sams and ninjas can go all in alot more helping them gain LB. If everyone lost the ability to heal mid fight then Sam's an ninja will have to play smarter to gain LB then it becomes less of a joke that it currently is.

So damn tanky what? This mode is the most lethal pvp has had since forever. You can literally be deleted under a second from full HP...

Oh wait, you're speaking about frontlines, are you?

Here's a better idea: Give it back its duration and range.

Instead, make it breakable with our trinkets.

Fixed.

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Originally Posted by anna-steele

it lasts 2 seconds and thanks to this games god awful delay its actual range is like 3 feet. its borderline useless unless youre already training someone

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Lol no. With delay and chain it's way more effective. Imagine being miracle'd during your ult. It needs a nerf.

Why would range even matter when an enemy is literally on your face when you use it defensively, or when you just have to press seraph strike to use it offensively anyway?

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Originally Posted by Valence

Why would range even matter when an enemy is literally on your face when you use it defensively, or when you just have to press seraph strike to use it offensively anyway?

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Pretty much, it's like one of the best kill securing tools in the game; or defensively, it's amazing for shutting down incredibly dangerous LBs like Warrior.