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Why does almost every sidequest involve collecting or killing 8 things? Change those values up a bit. 6 here, 9 there, perhaps be so bold and add a 7.

Although some people considered a lot of them underwhelming, I really loved the quests in XI. I'd say use XI quests as a good example of where to go with that.

To most of the people around me the quests are a big bust so far but we realize it's the easiest quests that get finished first. These feel more like presentation pieces that look good to new players on day 1 but are pretty insulting to the more veteran players of mmo's even at rank one. Finishin the quests was probably the most painful evening of play I've had so far.

I would like to see way less fetch questing. More goal oriented questing that matters or develops and matures over time. I know they are easy to design 3000 of, but they have next to no playable value. These quest are not the cure for what ails.

I won't sing their praises, but the quests did make me walk around each city (instead of bee-lining between crystal, leve table, and the city exit). They are a start. I was able to meet a kid in Gridania who plays pranks on adventures and a women in LL who was worried about her son. Before these quests, if I couldn't sell extra inventory or grab a leve from them, NPCs were worthless. I do hope more engaging quests (linked to classes, special armor, and interesting lore) are in the works.

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Originally Posted by Rjain

Why does almost every sidequest involve collecting or killing 8 things? Change those values up a bit. 6 here, 9 there, perhaps be so bold and add a 7.

Although some people considered a lot of them underwhelming, I really loved the quests in XI. I'd say use XI quests as a good example of where to go with that.

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I agree. But I understand SE added quest only few days ago, so probably the next quests be better.

It could be that I am bitter but the 16 or however many quest we got makes me sad, I realize that yes it is a start but why such a small amount?

Two things, first I would imagine the first set of quests that were released were no doubt rushed and not much thought was put into them in terms of quest rewards and execution for completion. Second, logically it would follow that the initial quests are only preludes to unlocking more complex quests with better rewards and such. I can only hope SE does put the effort, time and creativity in making these quests more engaging to us players.

As a side note, please for the love of everything that is essential for immersive RPG play, add cut scenes and voice acting to questlines. We are in an advance stage in gaming and with the technology that is available to us now please make use of these resources to make this game more engaging. FFXI did an excellent job of that given the resources that was available at that time, and continues to be as emersive to this day.

They should add more npc's in total. This way they could add more sidequests without it seeming as if tough everyone has something they want you to do for them.

The quests didn't seem to be anything more than a guildleve without the SP. I would like a little bit more story to the quest. Give them cut-scenes with cut-scene music. Add quest chains and make the story relevant to the plight of Eorzea. I don't care if it takes a month or 2 or 3 extra, just make them more interesting than just "go kill 8 of this"

I'm just glad the side quest infrastructure is in the game and working. I still haven't finished the initial quests since I've been busy at work, but from what I've seen, it looks like they added a few choice quests to make sure the system they implemented works before adding more.

It would be a coding nightmare if they had released hundreds of quests, only to find a bug in the sidequest system where the fix involved modifying each and every one of the quests.

My guess (and that is all it is), is that the quests will get more elaborate as more quests are introduced into the game.

That's what I'm hoping for!

I think the quests they added are just a taster and a sample, just to kick start the system per se, they've announced that they will be adding to the quest system each and every update from here henceforth.. I daresay that should at least bring some change and a mix to the variation of the TYPES of quests we can actual get.

Or am I over-assuming??

I definitely think they should look to FFXI for inspiration in their quests. As stated by a few above, many looked at FFXI's quests as pointless and honestly... in terms of progression many were. But what they did was cement the lore into the game.

One quest from XIV stands out to me, the one from the mithra selling drinks in Ul'Dah. She mentions that Thanalan was once a lush forest that overtime became the barren wasteland that it is today. It's lore like this that helps me immerse myself in the game and helps me to suspend my disbelief to make this world of Eorzea so much more believable. *mutters* Unlike the giant-ass squirrels now... /sigh

Anyway, yeah, these first batch of quests were bland and involved killing 8 things... seriously, every quest... 8 mobs?

FFXI had great quests. Many of them even had brief cutscenes that gave it a real cinematic feel. I don't think the devs need to be so afraid of using FFXI as inspiration. I mean... let's face it... they're 50/50 right now. They've had one successful MMO and one... well... let's just call a spade a spade, failure. I know they don't want to make a clone of FFXI but that doesn't mean they can't be inspired by the better things the game did right. Cutscenes and for the majority, I use CoP as my primary example, story they did right.

Don't be afraid to borrow ideas from your successful predecessor, especially when one considers how many of their current players are FFXI vets.

Personally i'd like more quests that end in boss battles, or at least some form of rare enemy fight. More than a few should take place within the surrounding dungeons, giving players a chance to actually explore their surroundings.

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Originally Posted by Kazimir

The quests didn't seem to be anything more than a guildleve without the SP. I would like a little bit more story to the quest. Give them cut-scenes with cut-scene music. Add quest chains and make the story relevant to the plight of Eorzea. I don't care if it takes a month or 2 or 3 extra, just make them more interesting than just "go kill 8 of this"

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I agree !!!!

Thank you Belius, I couldn't have said it better myself. We are talking about a multi-billion dollar corporation that has ate well for the last 10years+ because of us FF11 players and then some. The investment need to be in the now, not the before.

SE, a voice acted CS would make me love you even more, but you're more like my annoying little sister atm......

Thank you^^

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Originally Posted by Scobill

Don't be afraid to borrow ideas from your successful predecessor, especially when one considers how many of their current players are FFXI vets.

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Amen. (You highly underestimate how much we loved FF11, learn from it)

Thank you^^

There was the one side-quest in Gridania I found where you have to release the power of an elemental on to three camp fires in order to calm it.

It was a nice bit of variation. Good for non-combat classes too.

People can cry about XI quality all they want but point me to ONE quest in XIV that has more interesting story or a cutscene with better music than XIs quests have.

Truth is XI set the bar for quests so high that XIV isn't even trying to aim for the same quality.

was happy to have quests but yeah this kill this many mobs stuff is weaksauce, they already gave us leves that do this. i enjoyed ffxi quests alot, a hole lot, first thing i did when i loged on for ffxi launch (Na,ps2) was run around for hours rpg'ing it up collecting and completing sandy quests. rpg is the keyword and quests are the main part of them. looks like they just put some shit together cause we all yelling at em and they came out worse ...lol less they really spent years and had this ball of shit to give us.

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Originally Posted by Belius

Two things, first I would imagine the first set of quests that were released were no doubt rushed and not much thought was put into them in terms of quest rewards and execution for completion. Second, logically it would follow that the initial quests are only preludes to unlocking more complex quests with better rewards and such. I can only hope SE does put the effort, time and creativity in making these quests more engaging to us players.

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Yeah, I agree. I'm very underwhelmed by the quests, but I realize that it's only a first step. Yoshi-P said in his notes that they're going for more frequent updates with less content per update, than less frequent updates with more content. I prefer this way as well.

The quests are crap now, but it's just like a placeholder and a base for more content to be built up from. They'll get better with more updates.

Personally, I'd like to see better rewards fro quest completion, and more varieties in quest objectives. Fetch quests are so blase.

I'd also like to see SP rewards or gil rewards, instead of/in addition to item rewards that I have no use for. Alternative rewards like increased inventory space, increased accessory slot points, increased maximum TP, additional favorite locations, additional anima, extra retainers, etc would also be very welcome.

and yes please to many more quests that end in boss battles. many many more, like even 1? lol