So New years event npc is a viera boy because the rabbit year...

...but no hrothgar npc for the tiger year....

Whats a hrothgar? Isnt that a mountain in Skyrim?

Can he wear an ugly helmet, though?

A whatgar?

As much as I like male Viera, it's weird that we got back to back events starring one in the main role. It would've been nice if a Hrothgar was the main NPC for the 2022 Starlight event.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Whats a hrothgar? Isnt that a mountain in Skyrim?

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Thats a ronso on drugs, High hrothgar!

Yeah that was a missed opportunity. I'm just sad we didn't get a FATE where we battle a killer rabbit.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Whats a hrothgar? Isnt that a mountain in Skyrim?

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Danish king

I mean I wouldn't say other races (aside from Elezen) get called abominations, but people playing catgirl have been jeered at pretty hard for playing the harlot race.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

This is the trash that I keep talking about. You don't see people use that against Miqo'te, Elezen, Lalafell or Roegadyn. So what on earth makes it acceptable to throw this at anyone else?

Literally why is this okay to be thrown around?

Especially coming from a guy with too much lipstick wearing easily the worst glasses made by mankind. Pince-nez, with your rabbit ears? Who do you think you are? Edna Mode?

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Cackling at the comparison.

Ngl tho, there are worse names being thrown around for some races than abomination, lalas especially imo.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Ngl tho, there are worse names being thrown around for some races than abomination.

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Yes, zoophile. Source: I got called that. In-game, no less. And with a Roegadyn here insinuating that me finding it disturbing means that I'm one.

Still 100% uncalled for. No one here called Vieras anything insulting, so why the need to throw stones?

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

I mean I wouldn't say other races (aside from Elezen) get called abominations, but people playing catgirl have been jeered at pretty hard for playing the harlot race.

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tbf I blame the game for the way Miqo'te are received by some people, because some portrayals lead to stereotypes...

More so than them being kemomimi characters.

Look no further than dancers at Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Yes, zoophile. Source: I got called that. In-game, no less. And with a Roegadyn here insinuating that me finding it disturbing means that I'm one.

Still 100% uncalled for. No one here called Vieras anything insulting, so why the need to throw stones?

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Personally I think you shouldn't let what random people on the internet think affect you like that. They and their opinions ultimately don't matter if it doesn't reflect the truth.

To quote Flavor Flav: If it don't apply, let it fly.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Personally I think you shouldn't let what random people on the internet think affect you like that. They and their opinions ultimately don't matter if it doesn't reflect the truth.

To quote Flavor Flav: If it don't apply, let it fly.

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Alright. Then I'd like the same for those other people. Because if I went to those forums and threw that around, how would they feel?

Especially when it's asking for more attention to a race that's literally the most behind in terms of design and representation in the game and community. One whose limitations further convince people to stay away from it and not stay or change to it, reinforcing its niche status.

Like, you're right that random people with bad glamours shouldn't have an impact... but they do out of sheer virtue that it really feels like Hrothgar is an acceptable target for really garbage takes. More so than other races.

I don't dispute that other races get comments, but I doubt they're as bad as Hrothgar. And when it comes to asking for support, why throw low blows like that?

Is it so hard to give people a grace you don't agree with but that they deserve?

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Alright. Then I'd like the same for those other people. Because if I went to those forums and threw that around, how would they feel?

Especially when it's asking for more attention to a race that's literally the most behind in terms of design and representation in the game and community. One whose limitations further convince people to stay away from it and not stay or change to it, reinforcing its niche status.

Like, you're right that random people with bad glamours shouldn't have an impact... but they do out of sheer virtue that it really feels like Hrothgar is an acceptable target for really garbage takes. More so than other races.

I don't dispute that other races get comments, but I doubt they're as bad as Hrothgar. And when it comes to asking for support, why throw low blows like that?

Is it so hard to give people a grace you don't agree with but that they deserve?

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Lalas get called pedophiles, Au Ra are the groomers, Roes are the ugly race, Miqos are the whores/prostitutes...I can go on if you'd like.

(If it wasn't obvious, none of those reflect my own opinion on said races)

Also I haven't personally seen anyone in here saying Hroth and Viera shouldn't have support (unless youre referring to the abomination comment) so I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly. All I've seen in general about Hroth and Viera is a vocal crowd trying to push for more hats and things for the two races.

Most races get labeled with a stereotype and mocked for it. Female roes get called special snowflakes. Lalafells get called pedophiles or they are treated as jokes. Male aura have a meme about them being groomers. Female mi'qote and aura get all the pervy comments and mocked for being unoriginal. You ain't special.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Lalas get called pedophiles, Au Ra are the groomers, Roes are the ugly race, Miqos are the whores/prostitutes...I can go on if you'd like.

(If it wasn't obvious, none of those reflect my own opinion on said races)

Also I haven't personally seen anyone in here saying Hroth and Viera shouldn't have support (unless youre referring to the abomination comment) so I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly. All I've seen in general about Hroth and Viera is a vocal crowd trying to push for more hats and things for the two races.

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I had to check if I accidentally double posted lol. But anyway, right you care!

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

Most races get labeled with a stereotype and mocked for it. Female roes get called special snowflakes. Lalafells get called pedophiles or they are treated as jokes. Male aura have a meme about them being groomers. Female mi'qote and aura get all the pervy comments and mocked for being unoriginal. You ain't special.

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Thank you for confirming what I was referring to. I think the only race that doesn't have a disgusting stereotype attached to them are Hyurs and maybe Elezen, unless you count them being called boring and giraffes respectively as disgusting.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

Most races get labeled with a stereotype and mocked for it. Female roes get called special snowflakes. Lalafells get called pedophiles or they are treated as jokes. Male aura have a meme about them being groomers. Female mi'qote and aura get all the pervy comments and mocked for being unoriginal. You ain't special.

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Now I'm wondering what viera players are called...Fran wannabes?

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Now I'm wondering what viera players are called...Fran wannabes?

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Ngl I have heard that before but I've also seen them get lumped in the same category as Miqos.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

Female roes get called special snowflakes.

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I haven't, but I've only been a Roe for about a week.

I have gotten more creepy tells in that time than I ever did in years as a Miqo'te, Viera, or Au Ra, though. The guy going through those reports must be getting as tired of it as I am.

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Now I'm wondering what viera players are called...Fran wannabes?

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Female viera belong in the same category as female mi'qote and aura.
Male viera are either fujoshi (women who like boys love manga and gay fanfiction/shipping) or straight men who previously played male mi'qote but didn't get enough attention from women for being cute catboys, so they switched to more androgynous cute bunnyboys to get noticed instead. Whether it's succeeding or not... donno.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Ngl I have heard that before but I've also seen them get lumped in the same category as Miqos.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

Female viera belong in the same category as female mi'qote and aura.
Male viera are either fujoshi (women who like boys love manga and gay fanfiction/shipping) or straight men who previously played male mi'qote but didn't get enough attention from women for being cute catboys, so they switched to more androgynous cute bunnyboys to get noticed instead. Whether it's succeeding or not... donno.

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Interesting! I could see that. I usually wear tomboyish/androgynous glamours, and have been mistaken for a male viera on several occasions, so I hadn't thought much about the "sexy" stereotypes that female viera are subjected to.

Thanks for answering my inquiry.

That's so weird lol and sadly us bunnies and cat dads can't wear said item so...

Bun Boys are popular. Simple as

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I haven't, but I've only been a Roe for about a week.

I have gotten more creepy tells in that time than I ever did in years as a Miqo'te, Viera, or Au Ra, though. The guy going through those reports must be getting as tired of it as I am.

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It's the eyes. They say "Why yes! I will crush you to death you stupid, little man."

However they don't know it won't be in the fun way. You would murder them.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

easily the worst glasses made by mankind. Pince-nez

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You dare insult the Pince-nez?!

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Originally Posted by Renalt

It's the eyes. They say "Why yes! I will crush you to death you stupid, little man."

However they don't know it won't be in the fun way. You would murder them.

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They keep asking me to crush them with my thighs, but the axe is so much more efficient.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Lalas get called pedophiles, Au Ra are the groomers, Roes are the ugly race, Miqos are the whores/prostitutes...I can go on if you'd like.

(If it wasn't obvious, none of those reflect my own opinion on said races)

Also I haven't personally seen anyone in here saying Hroth and Viera shouldn't have support (unless youre referring to the abomination comment) so I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly. All I've seen in general about Hroth and Viera is a vocal crowd trying to push for more hats and things for the two races.

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Au Ra being the groomers hahahaha thats a new one for me

Yes, other races get called stuff. But you know what those other races also have? Support from the devs. Players. Representation. The comfort of actually feeling like the devs give a crap about you.

Should stupid insults by idiots bother anyone? Not really. You know what sucks to see though, in a thread asking for hrothgar support? Some moron coming in and basically saying you don't deserve anything. We definitely DON'T think we're special lmao.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Au Ra being the groomers hahahaha thats a new one for me

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Idk how long that one's been around, I've only noticed it in the past year and I have no idea what started it.

https://tenor.com/pt-BR/view/the-dar...y-gif-18212973o_o what happened here...

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Yes, other races get called stuff. But you know what those other races also have? Support from the devs. Players. Representation. The comfort of actually feeling like the devs give a crap about you.

Should stupid insults by idiots bother anyone? Not really. You know what sucks to see though, in a thread asking for hrothgar support? Some moron coming in and basically saying you don't deserve anything. We definitely DON'T think we're special lmao.



Idk how long that one's been around, I've only noticed it in the past year and I have no idea what started it.

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I just stereotype male Au Ras as the Crash Bandicoots

Don't mind me, just sticking my long neck in here to see what all the commotion is about.

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Originally Posted by Milus

https://tenor.com/pt-BR/view/the-dar...y-gif-18212973o_o what happened here...

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The internet happened.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I just stereotype male Au Ras as the Crash Bandicoots

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LOL gosh yes. Their run is so ridiculous.

Despite the rude-rabbit* derailing the thread, I personally appreciate all my Hroth friends and would love to see them represented next time the year of the Tigger comes about!

If we keep pushing it, in 11 years there might also be appropriate hair, hats, and the ability to fully use stylist by then.

Happy western new year, 新年おめでとう ございます , and Happy Lunar New Year for the 22nd coming.


(*Also, in the Zodiac, a wonderful relationship match is a male Rabbit & female Sheep)

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Despite the rude-rabbit derailing the thread, I personally appreciate all my Hroth friends and would love to see them represented next time the year of the Tigger comes about!

If we keep pushing it, in 11 years there might also be appropriate hair, hats, and the ability to fully use stylist by then.

Happy western new year, 新年おめでとう ございます , and Happy Lunar New Year for the 22nd coming.

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I honestly hope a better online FF comes out before then, but yeah. :3

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The internet happened.

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No, I happened. I apologize for derailing the thread.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

(*Also, in the Zodiac, a wonderful relationship match is a male Rabbit & female Sheep)

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uhhh o.o


Also, the male water rabbit is considered rather calm and gentle, so it's definitely a cute pairing >wº

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

They keep asking me to crush them with my thighs,

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It's a good and honest request. They just don't know you are married. Besides there are steps and they are skipping them!

Hey how are you? What's your name? Would you like to get some lunch? Hey can you crush me to death with your thighs?

Whatever happened to romance?

It's a shame.

I genuinely wonder if it's because of how hard the bozja storyline was slammed by critics. Like, what if instead of attributing it to poor presentation, a dull buildup, a writing style that barely tries to pull you in, and an unsatisfying (borderline enraging) conclusion, they just assume people hated it because there were lots of burly hrothchads? Can you imagine? What if they perceive boybuns as just an easy win? A slam dunk, if you will, because their perception of male viera fans is "oh they'll just enjoy anything," but the one time they went all in on the hroth stuff they got panned so hard that they had to kind of finish it in a tweet and the writer behind it hopped on a train and left.

This isn't a call to never be critical again, mind you. This is just me loosely wondering if we'll ever see serious hroth centered side-content ever again or if bozja will have left such a sour taste in everyone's mouth that the devs will be too paranoid to utilize anything but dainty pretty boys from here on out unless it's hildibrand. God, can you imagine an MSQ quest where we force feed Graha a fantasia and turn him into a hrothgar instead? Because something in the plot demands it, of course. Or maybe into a male roegadyn? Or a male au ra? Haha. Imagine. Anyway

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

They keep asking me to crush them with my thighs, but the axe is so much more efficient.

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Wait, you can't just do that!

*throws an Excog on the target*

DO IT NOW, I SHALL EXTEND THEIR SUFFERING!

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Wait, you can't just do that!

*throws an Excog on the target*

DO IT NOW, I SHALL EXTEND THEIR SUFFERING!

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What every Masochist wants to hear.