I recently noticed that my RTX2070 GPU performance is maxed out at 99-100% when just standing around in Ultima Thule, even when the camera is just pointed at the ground. This is observed in Windows Task Manager, Performance, GPU.
In Limsa, with about 30 players in view, the GPU load is only 50%.
I checked my UPS power display in both locations.
Limsa: 300 watts
UT : 360 watts.
Exit or minimize game: 123 watts
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So, if your electric bills are a problem, don't AFK in UT. (Or don't AFK anywhere.)
Ultima Thule is bad for your electric bill.
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11-20-2022, 01:32 AMSamSmootUltima Thule is bad for your electric bill.
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11-20-2022, 01:35 AMSnowVix*laughs in municipal electric supplier*Quote:
Originally Posted by SamSmoot
but yeah, it's not really a surprise to me it makes your GPU pull more, since that was the area the launch bug that caused audio and video stuttering was the most pronounced. -
11-20-2022, 01:40 AMFrogDog
I'll just offset this by not heating my home.
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11-20-2022, 02:06 AMDeveryn
The true power of Dynamis. :p
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11-20-2022, 02:13 AMSnowVixwon't your GPU running at 100% utilization take care of that though?Quote:
Originally Posted by FrogDog
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11-20-2022, 02:18 AMRobynDaBank
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...986&height=663
Borderless windowed, capped at 60 FPS, settings at Medium. Not sure what you mean? My card is definitely weaker: 1650 GTX on laptop. It used up even less (<10%) in Windowed. I don't have two monitors mind you, but I made sure to un-limit any usage when the client is inactive. If my test is flawed somehow though, I'm up to admit that.
Edited to crop the picture for spoilers, sorry! -
11-20-2022, 02:53 AMLittleImp
Cap your framerate to your monitors refresh rate if you are concerned.
In high-density places like Limsa, your GPU gets bottlenecked by your CPU, which keeps it from rendering a bunch of superfluous frames and driving up the usage. -
11-20-2022, 04:05 AMKenaiChoppa
Well, Ultima thule was a lot of FX going on. Add that to the fact that Japanese developers are not the best one when it comes to work on PC platforms (there are a lot of examples) and this applies to FF XIV as well: in game design it is awesome, but on a technical side it is not that awesome, there are a lot of stuff that we are getting right now (plates on cities, for example) that should have been there a while ago.
And im not complaining, i love FF XIV and definitely prefer a good game in design (aka game loop) but bad on the technical side, than vice versa (any example of impressive tech games that are really empty once you pass the "wow" effect). And they will probably never fix it (or maybe yes in the next expansion with the game engine improvement), but a good performance and other basic stuff like a real character customization will just have to wait until the next FF Online game (XVII or XVIII). -
11-20-2022, 04:26 AMKes13a
technically... your GPU should always be running at 99 to 100%. this is how they are designed, if its not, you are not getting full utilization and have a bottleneck somewhere, typically in other hardware
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11-20-2022, 06:22 AMLarirawiel
Framelimiter > electric bill. :)
Cheers -
11-20-2022, 06:25 AMReimmi
Make sure you're limiting your fps lol, if i uncap fps i get like 409 fps which is so unecessaary and heats your gpu up like a space heater
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11-20-2022, 09:51 AMArrhinIncorrect, it depends on your settings and personal preference. GPU utilization would be at 100% only you have your framerate uncapped and you are not CPU bound. Even using Gsync and Freesync you are capped at the max refresh rate of your monitor, it is just how variable refresh works. If your hardware is are unable to hit that max refresh rate, you will see 100% utilization assuming you are not CPU bound, if your hardware can, then you will NOT see 100% GPU utilization at least with Gsync as it enters a vsync type mode at this point, I think FreeSync does this as well. You can disable this but then there is no point to the technology. If you desire the best visual quality it is always recommended to match your frame rate cap to your refresh rate (or a fraction of) if it is fixed and not variable (depends on the display) so as to avoid tearing. Some extremely high refresh rate monitors can be unsynced with little tearing visible which is why they are desired in competetive shooters. Uncapped, unsynced = less input lag. XIV being as slow paced as it is, there is no reason to run like this. For XIV cap it if fixed refresh, or let Gsync/FreeSync do their things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kes13a
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11-20-2022, 10:10 AMArrhin
I can't say I'm seeing this issue. At 1440p on dual monitors, max settings capped at 60fps on a 3060 I'm seeing approx 50% utilization in Afterburner. Pretty much the same I see everywhere. I mean I got this little bugger overclocked pretty hard but not THAT hard lol. Like others said check your frame cap, for XIV it should be enabled. This is not a game that benefits from unsyncing, in my experience it just makes it look like sh!t. When monitoring hardware, always consider both CPU and GPU. If you are CPU bound (a possibility in Limsa), you may see GPU utilization drop as the CPU cannot feed it any more, OTOH if you are GPU bound, you may see CPU utilization drop as it's not needing to feeding the GPU as much. There can be far more to this than what I listed but no need to get into it all, and these things are well documented on the various tech forums/YouTube channels.
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11-20-2022, 09:46 PMSamSmoot
I just checked my settings. Normally I limit to 60 FPS to match my monitors, but I found it set to no limit for some reason I've forgotten.
Changed it back to 60, and now I get 41% in UT and Limsa. -
11-20-2022, 11:00 PMTheMightyMollusk
Area created in 2021 is more graphically intense than area created in 2013.
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11-21-2022, 03:06 AMReimmiThe funny thing is being around players will always be more intensive than any zone they can make because mmo's are notiriously bad at optimizing for that kind of thingQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk
so unless there's sranks in ultima thule yes limsa will be more intensive on your machine (more so CPU but it will bottleneck your gpu)
when i still played wow i could get 100+ fps in the new zones every expansion but fall to 40-50 in stormwind every time -
11-21-2022, 05:46 AMImora
I still get almost 100 fps in stormwind >< just have my settings a bit lower I think.
Might turn on vsync. -
11-22-2022, 01:50 AMIllmaeran
AP/Reuters-
Well known Japanese game developer Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. (SQNXF) on Monday, Nov. 21, 2022 found to have intentionally increased the carbon footprint of their flagship online game, Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn, through excessive graphical quality in the game zone Ultima Thule from the newest expansion Endwalker. This comes directly on the heels of incorporating Non-Fungible Tokens (NFT), a technology well-known to have a large carbon footprint, into future games. "The Board of Directors have been in talks with Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) regarding potential investment in the business to stave off flagging share prices." remarked a Square Enix employee familiar with the topic speaking on conditions of anonymity in order to discuss private business dealings.
Square Enix did not immediately respond to a request for information. -
11-22-2022, 05:14 AMMidareyukkiThat just makes it look like Yoshida is using Ultima Thule to print cryptocurrencyQuote:
Originally Posted by Illmaeran
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11-22-2022, 05:16 AMIllmaeran/adjuststinfoilhatQuote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
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11-23-2022, 01:27 AMIllmaeranQuote:
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In case it wasn't clear at the start, I completely made this up. There's no basis in reality for this post. -
11-24-2022, 02:15 PMKageTokage
I haven't noticed any significant upticks in my Radeon card's GPU usage outside of high player traffic or certain particle-effect heavy instances/mechanics (The wind mechanic on the first Dead Ends boss in particular makes my GPU fans rev up like crazy).
There is, however, a "cursed" spot in Lower La Noscea by the aetheryte that both cranks up the GPU usage to 100% and tanks my FPS to around 10 if I'm facing the aetheryte from a very specific angle and distance. I can only assume it's some kind of bizarre quirk with how the GPU is trying to render the shadows/lighting in that vicinity, which makes me a bit concerned for the 7.0 graphics update. -
11-24-2022, 04:02 PMKatt_Felista
Probably some forced Gimpworks ala FFXV monsters and waters and hairworks with x60 tessellation only supported by nvidia under the map or far off in the distance, forcing the gpu to render it as if it was a close up.
Did everyone forget the Square Enix FF15 Nvidia incident ? Catering to a gpu producer has a high price on your game development. (and your gpu efficiency) When none of this was present on ps4 under the map with modded / debug camera travel to look under it, on consoles.
Edit : after searching a while about this scandal, Nvidia tried but they couldn't remove "all" the videos made about it :
https://youtu.be/0eXbbh1f52I
What do you bet these types of dirty fights / dev including detrimental lines of codes or things one gpu can't cull properly, or run loops one gpu can stop and not the other, where the consumer is in a loose loose situation between gpu manufacturers, are still ongoing ?
The most outrageous and blatant sample of this video and how these devs obey to this type of stuff can be shortened on this section of the video here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eXbbh1f52I&t=986
Pretty obvious what you are doing when placing hundreds of tesselated objects under the map, along with water and piece of landmass with high tessellation count ontop of hairworks. And i wonder how much of this still is a practice in the video game industry, probably a lot of other games are artificially made to make your gpu struggle when graphical fidelity hasn't advanced that "much" yet.