Gil faucets: What am I missing?

I know I’ve asked a variation of this before, but I worded it badly and it derailed the thread. I’ve also been playing for longer and have a point of comparison now, and a better sense of what “a lot of gil” is, in different contexts.

I run multiple leveling roulettes a day on multi-job alts as the role in need. I have my somewhat geared level 90 retainers bringing in coins that I feed to the doman enclave once a week. I’m aware that FC submarines are a thing, and I’ve even found a way to monetize GC seals at just over 50% conversion to gil.

Are there any other non-marketboard gil faucets, that I can reasonably pursue on my own power, that I’m missing out on? I ask this because I went to a nightclub recently and watched a friendly “slave auction” thing see someone go for 9-digits. I don’t need to buy any slaves, but it still made me feel like such “a poor” at how I’d recently heavily dented my life savings to outfit myself with an almost complete arsenal of moonlit weapons (for character concept). There’s such a wealth disconnect between some sects of players, and while I realize there’s no substitute for just playing for a decade, I just want to make sure there isn’t some accessible gil faucet (so “generating gil, not trading or working for someone else’s gil”) source I’ve overlooked. I just want to be able to buy glam or maybe even a house without wondering “how do I make that back any time soon,” without relying on the crap shoot of the marketboard, you know?

Thanks in advance for any and all helpful replies!

Levequests are probably the biggest source of easy gil at 9-11K a pop from the level 90 CUL/ALC leves.

If you'd like something a little more...involved, soloing SB treasure maps with BLU is also good since you can pawn off some of the drops for a fairly decent price on top of the raw gil.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Levequests are probably the biggest source of easy gil at 9-11K a pop from the level 90 CUL/ALC leves.

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Really miss that Coffee Biscuits era... I can get Honest Gillionaire easily with that :(

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Really miss that Coffee Biscuits era... I can get Honest Gillionaire easily with that :(

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Probly made like 30m from those
But yeah levequests are one of the only non-marketboard gil makers beyond roulettes

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Levequests are probably the biggest source of easy gil at 9-11K a pop from the level 90 CUL/ALC leves.

If you'd like something a little more...involved, soloing SB treasure maps with BLU is also good since you can pawn off some of the drops for a fairly decent price on top of the raw gil.

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Two questions here:

1) Didn’t leve payouts get nerfed, or is 9-11k (still awesome) a current, post-nerf value?

2) I have capped blue mage but I don’t know Jack about treasure maps. As a 90 Omni crafter/gatherer and capped blue mage, are SB maps a wholly solo thing?

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Levequests are probably the biggest source of easy gil at 9-11K a pop from the level 90 CUL/ALC leves.

If you'd like something a little more...involved, soloing SB treasure maps with BLU is also good since you can pawn off some of the drops for a fairly decent price on top of the raw gil.

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Two questions here:

1) Didn’t leve payouts get nerfed, or is 9-11k (still awesome) a current, post-nerf value? Also which leves are the “easy” ones you refer to?

2) I have capped blue mage but I don’t know Jack about treasure maps. As a 90 Omni crafter/gatherer and capped blue mage, are SB maps a wholly solo thing?

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Originally Posted by Omedon

Two questions here:

1) Didn’t leve payouts get nerfed, or is 9-11k (still awesome) a current, post-nerf value?

2) I have capped blue mage but I don’t know Jack about treasure maps. As a 90 Omni crafter/gatherer and capped blue mage, are SB maps a wholly solo thing?

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1) it's current post nerf value. Even better, it's for the delivery of just one HQ item batch, so you don't have to craft three batches of an item to get them. If you have both at level 90, you are in because you can craft both and then pick the lion's share from the level quests.

2) they are soloable as BLU, but don't take my word for it since I haven't tried it.

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Originally Posted by Rangiswimming

1) it's current post nerf value. Even better, it's for the delivery of just one HQ item batch, so you don't have to craft three batches of an item to get them. If you have both at level 90, you are in because you can craft both and then pick the lion's share from the level quests.

2) they are soloable as BLU, but don't take my word for it since I haven't tried it.

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It's got some hefty spell requirements. It's absolutely doable, just takes some set up.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

It's got some hefty spell requirements. It's absolutely doable, just takes some set up.

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Not really. If it's just opening maps, Ram's Voice and Ultravibration is mostly all you really need. Pretty sure most/all map mobs are vulnerable to instant death. Although, do run into problems with any that spawn in waves. Gets a bit tedious.

If we're talking Uznair.. I recall having trouble managing to solo as BLU. Aquapolis was pretty easy, tho.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Not really. If it's just opening maps, Ram's Voice and Ultravibration is mostly all you really need. Pretty sure most/all map mobs are vulnerable to instant death. Although, do run into problems with any that spawn in waves. Gets a bit tedious.

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I'm guessing that's where you finally get to use Doom.

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If we're talking Uznair.. I recall having trouble managing to solo as BLU. Aquapolis was pretty easy, tho.

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I remember doing BLU light parties in Uznair and things got spicy.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Not really. If it's just opening maps, Ram's Voice and Ultravibration is mostly all you really need. Pretty sure most/all map mobs are vulnerable to instant death. Although, do run into problems with any that spawn in waves. Gets a bit tedious.

If we're talking Uznair.. I recall having trouble managing to solo as BLU. Aquapolis was pretty easy, tho.

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Yeah I was thinking of Uznair where you can't use RV/UV. You want some of the higher potency attacks that you'll have to farm up for apparently.

I have admittedly never done it myself but I did look into it a really long time ago and I read a whole google doc on it(sadly).

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Yeah I was thinking of Uznair where you can't use RV/UV. You want some of the higher potency attacks that you'll have to farm up for apparently.

I have admittedly never done it myself but I did look into it a really long time ago and I read a whole google doc on it(sadly).

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It sounded like something that required more patience than I cared to give at the time. Maybe next year, we'll see an update and cap raise in 6.45 and it'll be easier. :D

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Levequests are probably the biggest source of easy gil at 9-11K a pop from the level 90 CUL/ALC leves.

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Originally Posted by Rangiswimming

1) it's current post nerf value. Even better, it's for the delivery of just one HQ item batch, so you don't have to craft three batches of an item to get them. If you have both at level 90, you are in because you can craft both and then pick the lion's share from the level quests.

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I’m at work with unreliable cell reception, so do you mind if I ask which items I should be looking to mass produce, or is it all of the rotating levequest options for CUL/ALC?

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Originally Posted by Omedon

I’m at work with unreliable cell reception, so do you mind if I ask which items I should be looking to mass produce, or is it all of the rotating levequest options for CUL/ALC?

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It's whatever you feel like producing. There's only a ~30 gil difference in the base rewards.

As baseline, 90k Grand company seals can be exchanged for Composite Whetstones, which can be sold to a vendor immediately about 54k gil.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

It sounded like something that required more patience than I cared to give at the time. Maybe next year, we'll see an update and cap raise in 6.45 and it'll be easier. :D

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Yeah I'm going to wait for that, although I might try some HW maps. I only got to experience a handful of those. Plus I want the achievements.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

It's whatever you feel like producing. There's only a ~30 gil difference in the base rewards.

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This. I think I do carrot nibbles because everything can be gotten from a botanist retainers ventures. Really just depends on whatever is convenient for you.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

As baseline, 90k Grand company seals can be exchanged for Composite Whetstones, which can be sold to a vendor immediately about 54k gil.

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Is that the best thing you can dump GC seals on? Makes me curious about the profit of the materiel containers broken down...

9 digit figures for RP "slaves" is a very extreme example. There's very little out there in that category. Most players only really have a few million and 10-50m+ is considered well off.

The game is in a strange spot right now where becoming very wealthy is restricted to small 1-2 week windows at the start of major patches. All the other months huge sums of gil are reserved for bots and those with a very good knowledge of marketing. The rest of the population just gathers scraps. Compare this to the earlier expansions (ARR to StB) where you could make hundreds of millions at any point of the patch via crafting.

Generally the richest players are either veterans who have a few billion from years ago, or people who no-life'd week 1 of patches.

That said, even though the ability to earn gil is massively reduced, it's not too hard to earn enough for most things you might want. Being rich is just for the sake of being rich, but most buyable things in the game are accessible to everyone.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Is that the best thing you can dump GC seals on? Makes me curious about the profit of the materiel containers broken down...

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For instant raw gil it probably is.

If you want to sell things on the marketboard and are patient, there are better options (realm and/or rng dependent).

Indeed, getting gil used to be quite easy (being relative). They have reduced or removed many ways of doing so nowadays it requires at times much effort to get it.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

As baseline, 90k Grand company seals can be exchanged for Composite Whetstones, which can be sold to a vendor immediately about 54k gil.

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This and other materials like it (market prohibited, 600 seals, vendors for 360 gil) are the method I inferred to in my OP. It's a great quick stackable seal dump with no MB gambling. It's a great way to get comparable gil to vendoring greens by dumping greens for seals and just instantly monetizing those seals. If you save chestpieces and weapons for the vendor and GC-donate everything else, you'll basically break even for much less time than it takes vendoring the gear itself. As an altoholic who lives in duty support, my FC loves me!

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

It's whatever you feel like producing. There's only a ~30 gil difference in the base rewards.

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Ok stupid question: I have every crafting job at 90... how do I unlock level 90 DoH levequests? I can't believe I couldn't find this easily.

Oh... it's the 88 quests at HQ, right?

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Originally Posted by Omedon

Ok stupid question: I have every crafting job at 90... how do I unlock level 90 DoH levequests? I can't believe I couldn't find this easily.

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There are no 90s, if that's what you're looking for. It's the 88s

I've done multiple solo runs of both Uznair variants.

The important things aside from the obvious are to be running healer stance so you can actually keep up with the incoming damage and top off/pre-mitigate using Gobskin before the tank busters from the big miniboss type enemies because you're at risk of dying from the next auto-attack otherwise.

You could just run maps with a group for less effort than soloing. You're still going to get money out of it even if you don't walk away with all of the prizes.

the easiest way would be treasure hunts I guess.
I got my 30 mil from that alone

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Originally Posted by Iscah

You could just run maps with a group for less effort than soloing. You're still going to get money out of it even if you don't walk away with all of the prizes.

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True, but sometimes it's just nice to be able to do them on your own time even if the rewards aren't as good as the EW ones.

For that matter, I can't wait for the next BLU update since the ShB maps will likely be soloable after that.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Is that the best thing you can dump GC seals on? Makes me curious about the profit of the materiel containers broken down...

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I've had good luck with the 3.0 boxes, and the 4.0 box is meh usually get a minion for 7-10k. Gotten 4 tonberries from 3.0 boxes and that sold for 1 mil combined. I've also gotten the 60gil morbol that basically free for doing aurum vale a lot.

Aside from the MB, I essentially do treasure hunts + the level 86 alchemy leve called Practical Command. The leve requires only 4 materials that my retainers can bring back in decent quantities, there’s no extra crafting/actions needed to craft the item and the result is a potion so it stacks which means I can craft it whenever i am waiting without worrying about filling up my inventory. Sure, I could get an extra 100 gils from doing another but it is not worth it to me as this one is convenient and requires little effort and time.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

You could just run maps with a group for less effort than soloing. You're still going to get money out of it even if you don't walk away with all of the prizes.

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Or hell just sell them. A map a day used to bring me 60K+ before the market became saturated. That's how I got my first 100 mil.

• Daily roulettes bring in a decent amount. 50K a day or so, 350K a week
• Level DESYNTH, so you can desynth all the things, and sell them. Often you will get clear materia III you can sell for 5K a pop
• Weekly B rank hunts bring in 5K per pop, 25k a week
• Sell a map a day at 20K or so, 140K a week
• Retainers bring in silver that you can straight up sell, at 90 it's 6k a day per retainer, per day

Getting 1 mil or 2 mil a month is relatively easy just playing the game, not the MB.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

I've had good luck with the 3.0 boxes, and the 4.0 box is meh usually get a minion for 7-10k. Gotten 4 tonberries from 3.0 boxes and that sold for 1 mil combined. I've also gotten the 60gil morbol that basically free for doing aurum vale a lot.

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Same! For some reason the the 4.0 box is... really, really bad?

That said, selling minions on Dynamis is really difficult so I'll probably be trying to convert things into pure gil for a while.

Your weekly passive income can’t be overlooked. It’s slow and steady but it stacks up!

18 hour retainer ventures x7 days a week per retainer gets tons of Allagan coins to trade.
Weekly Doma (use those Allagan coins) for +40k
Weekly deliveries for scrip to buy materia to sell

We aren’t making as much as leves, but it’s really easy to do it quickly once a week (or day for ventures).

Of course check out your weekly challenge log. Lots of quick gil there.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Your weekly passive income can’t be overlooked. It’s slow and steady but it stacks up!

18 hour retainer ventures x7 days a week per retainer gets tons of Allagan coins to trade.
Weekly Doma (use those Allagan coins) for +40k
Weekly deliveries for scrip to buy materia to sell

We aren’t making as much as leves, but it’s really easy to do it quickly once a week (or day for ventures).

Of course check out your weekly challenge log. Lots of quick gil there.

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Doma is only +20K for the week. It has a 20k budget and doubles it, you'd have gotten that 20K if you'd have sold those to a vendor.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Doma is only +20K for the week. It has a 20k budget and doubles it, you'd have gotten that 20K if you'd have sold those to a vendor.

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Once it's maxed out its 40k.

Thank you very much to everyone in this thread, especially those that woke me up to crafting leves! I am now all macro'ed up and on the money train! Thank you so much!

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Originally Posted by Imora

Once it's maxed out its 40k.

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You're both right-you sell 20k worth of junk and get 40k for it (so 20k in profit). It's not really worth the fuss, either way. 40k is 40k!