@ SE unbalanced skill range melee/range

I see it all the time, ninja player stay in the back with the dmg up buff and play "range dps". There is no reason to give them 20/25 y attack range with higher def as a range dps, no cast time and to high potency.

Next situation you play dancer and try to hit anyone with your low 15y range/low tingle dmg fountain combo and die in 3 sec by simple aoe skill cuz of the low def.

If you buff melees than hold them in the melee range or reduce the skill potency fatal dependent by range.

I assume you're talking about frontline? In that case, absolutely, yes, agreed. Don't give all the melee a blanket 60% damage reduction when certain melees have INSANE surivability and can ALSO function super well as a ranged attacker.
All the melees should receive DR according to their kit's defensive capability.

If you mean in CC, I dunno. I don't play the mode, but people apparently think NIN is pretty underpowered there, idk.

Ninja is just poorly balanced, it shouldn't be treated as a melee job if you ask me. It should have ranged HP and DR.

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Originally Posted by Nikoto

Ninja is just poorly balanced, it shouldn't be treated as a melee job if you ask me. It should have ranged HP and DR.

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I do agree, IMO RDM (SGE as well?) should've get that DR treatment because most of their skills are close ranged...

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Originally Posted by Nikoto

Ninja is just poorly balanced, it shouldn't be treated as a melee job if you ask me. It should have ranged HP and DR.

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I'd rather have them wipe their kit and redo the job to be proper melee lol

Just remove the DR and bring the chaos back, i love me some quick KOs

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Originally Posted by Kansene

I assume you're talking about frontline? In that case, absolutely, yes, agreed. Don't give all the melee a blanket 60% damage reduction when certain melees have INSANE surivability and can ALSO function super well as a ranged attacker.
All the melees should receive DR according to their kit's defensive capability.

If you mean in CC, I dunno. I don't play the mode, but people apparently think NIN is pretty underpowered there, idk.

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Nin is very good in CC. But staying at range in CC with Nin and do nothing else would be like having a 4v5 though.

Yeah CC nin is more about using ranged during chase or the opening salvo. If you're quick you can actually pull off almost a full K.O. by using bunshin->Huton->Assassinate(12,000+6000)->Mug(2,000)->Hyosho Ranryu(17,600)-> mop up with fuma for 9,000 a pop. This doesn't really work once people see it once, but it's good for first match of the day with someone or during tense moments. Other than that you get a ton more damage output from using weapon skill combo and raiju with bunshin since Assassinate and Fuma are always halved.

Pvp is totally unbalanced. 1 hit skillz from nin, sam and mch, high hp and def with invulv by tanks and so on.

They should better balance pvp and pull out any 1 hit skillz/combos and invulv.

Pvp should more balanced, i mean you need a whole light group of ranges and cant kill a healer or tank, but a simply sam or nin can wipe out the whole light group alone.

I hope they would fix this soon, pvp doesnt make fun atm if you can get killed instantly through overpowered classes

Comparing MCH LB with Nin or even Sam is completely disingenuous.

If we're speaking about frontlines, I don't know though.

Ninja's pvp kit is the perfect example of a bloated kit, it needs a rework, not a nerf, you can't balance something with that amount of shielding, self sustain, ranged damage, cc and mobilty.

It feels like they started out by making a hit and run kit, like get in, burst, lb, get out kind of kit, then just randomly threw unneccessary shielding and healing ontop of it.