Penalty for leaving duty finder

So no if your in dutyfinder can't do anything without it canceling dutyfinder. If you do you get a penalty. Canceled dutyfinder when just talk to one of my retainers. This is total bs that can't do anything now. Now have to just stand and do nothing. this needs fixed right away.

Wouldn't stopping talking to your retainer saved you the penalty? Aren't there like 3 strikes then penalty?

You have enough time to close your retainer window and to join the duty.

You can also miss the duty invite two times a day without getting a penalty.
When you regularly miss to accept it, then it is a you problem.

I just queued for dutyfinder no queue even popped yet. I talked to my retainer to send out and it just cancels dutyfinder queue. Then says your penalty count has increased for abandoning a duty by canceling matching. You didn't read the post right

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Originally Posted by hynaku

I just queued for dutyfinder no queue even popped yet. I talked to my retainer to send out and it just cancels dutyfinder queue. Then says your penalty count has increased for abandoning a duty by canceling matching. You didn't read the post right

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Cancelling matching doesn't give you a penalty, though. You can join and leave as much as you like as long as the 'duty found' box doesn't appear.

It did for me. Does that mean the game is bugged after this maitenance then?

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Originally Posted by hynaku

I just queued for dutyfinder no queue even popped yet. I talked to my retainer to send out and it just cancels dutyfinder queue. Then says your penalty count has increased for abandoning a duty by canceling matching. You didn't read the post right

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What you're saying doesn't make sense. You can leave a queue at any time if it hasn't popped yet without penalty...

It doesn't make sense to me ether what happened. I just enter dutyfinder queue for mainstory quest roulette then right after it I check on my retainers. Then gives me a message saying your penalty count has increased for abandoning a duty by canceling matching. But no duty has even popped yet since I just entered it 5 seconds before.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

It doesn't make sense to me ether what happened. I just enter dutyfinder queue for mainstory quest roulette then right after it I check on my retainers. Then gives me a message saying your penalty count has increased for abandoning a duty by canceling matching. But no duty has even popped yet since I just entered it 5 seconds before.

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Roulette queues are usually really fast in the hour or two after a maintenance. It probably popped at the same time that you interacted with the summoning bell and minimized to your notification area.

Thats not it you have 30 seconds to accept a duty when it pops. This happened with in 5 seconds. I wasn't even logged in yet for 30 seconds. I always logout next to retainer bell at the inn room.

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Originally Posted by Rehayem

Aren't there like 3 strikes then penalty?

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Originally Posted by Curisu

You can also miss the duty invite two times a day without getting a penalty.

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The daily reset doesn't happen until JP midnight / 0800 PDT / 0700 PST. They probably had two or more strikes from yesterday still.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

So no if your in dutyfinder can't do anything without it canceling dutyfinder. If you do you get a penalty. Canceled dutyfinder when just talk to one of my retainers. This is total bs that can't do anything now. Now have to just stand and do nothing. this needs fixed right away.

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From my experience talking to a vendor or retainer when the duty pops dont cancel the duty. Yeah you gotta close a couple windows but you have plenty of time to accept the duty as for the penalty you have to miss "x" amount in a day to actually get a penalty. A one time miss doesnt penalize.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Roulette queues are usually really fast in the hour or two after a maintenance. It probably popped at the same time that you interacted with the summoning bell and minimized to your notification area.

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But even then it dont make sense if they were penalized after one miss. I would suggest to just try again when they are able and test it but really watch incase he did miss it popping but if it happens again report it to see if it winds up being a bug.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Thats not it you have 30 seconds to accept a duty when it pops. This happened with in 5 seconds. I wasn't even logged in yet for 30 seconds. I always logout next to retainer bell at the inn room.

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It's 45 seconds, not 30.

And you have to miss a queue 3 times within 24 hours to be locked out.

I just tested it on my end and wasn't able to get the same results.

First test was on an alliance raid, played around with my retainer, still remained in queue. Canceled the duty finder (with no pop) fine, no penalty applied.

Second test was on an expert roulette which popped instantly, went to talk to my retainer after the queue popped, the option to join remained (was just minimized to that little tab instead), and I had to manually withdraw which earned me a strike per the norm.

I'm really bad about rolling through my retainers to refresh Quick Exploration when those seconds are ticking down, so I can attest that doing that won't knock you out of the queue even when it's already popped. Withdrawing before it pops also won't give a penalty. So if the game is automatically cancelling your queue just for talking to your retainer, that's a bug and should be reported.

If you're letting the duty pop box go down to zero while you talk to your retainers and never accept it, that will get you a penalty.

The only time I've had an issue is when I've been in a cutscene when it pops, or occasionally zoning if the transition is a little laggy.


I dont think you should be oenalised for timing out the DF window for a few reasons, but I wouldnt say its a problem either.

I made post sort of on this other day with how UI works with menus, that I simply can't just use them all at same time, but I need to close a menu top open a menu or use a menu.
been bugging me from 1.0 but it is what it is when comes to menu limitations.

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Originally Posted by Tiramu

I dont think you should be oenalised for timing out the DF window for a few reasons, but I wouldnt say its a problem either.

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I think there should eventually still be a penalty as a deterrent to doing it too often, since it does affect those who accepted the duty. But maybe a three strike system before a penalty. That's 9 times missing the queue before someone gets locked out for the day and I'd say that's fair.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I think there should eventually still be a penalty as a deterrent to doing it too often, since it does affect those who accepted the duty. But maybe a three strike system before a penalty. That's 9 times missing the queue before someone gets locked out for the day and I'd say that's fair.

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Yeah, thats fair.

Do you perhaps use a controller to play?

I've "cancelled" a few queue pops because I was muscle memory navigating things.