New Patch and Glam

The new noir set with the new patch looks lovely! I am a huge fan of noir-style media, and SE including such sets makes me very happy and is almost entirely my motivation to play the new variant dungeon(s)!

And yet, here's the rub. Another glam created by SE, another hat viera can't wear. This one hurts pretty hard for the above reasons. I refuse to believe SE isn't aware that releasing glamour that viera/hrothgar can't wear not only makes people irritated, but further adds to the issue. Every new headwear that can't be worn by viera and hrothgar just makes the problem worse. It's adding to technical debt. And it's making viera/hrothgar players' gameplay experience worse every time.

This probably sounds like whining, and it definitely is in part, and this post will likely fall into the void. But as a 'not surprised but saddened' viera player, my joy for the new glamour has that spike of irritation to it for the lack of viera/hroth usability!

Please, SE, let me be a bun/big catte noir enjoyer in full. Not that I think you actually will. With every new patch, every new glam, my belief that these two races will ever see actual fixes in full dies a little more. </3!

Nah, you aren't whining in a negative manner. There's no good reason why they can't make Viera ears or even Hrothgar heads work with newly added armor/glamour sets.

Whilst i'm personally not a fan of the gearset - seconding the hat issue because at this point it's almost funny that it keeps happening - except it makes me want to cry. I'm really mystified by where they decided to place this gearset in the game though. It's an investigators outfit and we just got a whole questline with Hildy - an investigator. Why wasn't it included there instead? Maybe I'm just a bit sour because I feel like it's a missed opportunity to not have gotten some cool sil'dih themed glam and I feel completely demotivated to grind for a gearset I hate - the coat is cool and will make people happy which is great - but the hat issue and the 7000th pair of generic office trousers and shoes just feels so underwhelming o_o

I better see Columbo glams everywhere >.>

Agreed.
If there's any hat glamour Vieras/Hrothgars should've received, this was it (in fact, I was fully expecting it).
So needless to say...please implement the Noir Hat for them.

I wish someone would ask this question in the next Q&A. Why are newly released hair styles/headpieces and hats not considered or even worked on when it comes to the new races. Or is there a plan to do all of these witht the launch of 7.0?

I understand these ideas are worked on months to even a year out so this may have already been made before 6.0 even released but it would be helpful for everyone if they shared a timeline on when they plan on having X amount of hairstyles and headpieces updated.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

*runs past underground limsa bots, skirts around speedhackers in ul'dah, completely ignores creepy stalkers, trips over a groomer FC, sidesteps past bots that belch out raid mechanics before they even happen, and dives under a dozen gathering bots*
Uhmm??? Is that a completely harmless COSMETIC MOD?? Get him, boys.

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Oh no! Who will use an atrocity like this? This will completely break the game. We need to punish everyone who installs this mod. Never, I said NEVER look for hrothgar and viera hats mods.

A tragedy of lazy ass development.

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Originally Posted by OgruMogru

I'm really mystified by where they decided to place this gearset in the game though. It's an investigators outfit and we just got a whole questline with Hildy - an investigator. Why wasn't it included there instead? Maybe I'm just a bit sour because I feel like it's a missed opportunity to not have gotten some cool sil'dih themed glam and I feel completely demotivated to grind for a gearset I hate - the coat is cool and will make people happy which is great - but the hat issue and the 7000th pair of generic office trousers and shoes just feels so underwhelming o_o

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My thoughts exactly...

Not at all surprised. New glams, including all store headgear, should be visible on Viera and Hrothgar. Especially the latter. I don't understand the dev team's reasoning, unless it's just plain ol' laziness.

At this point it's not laziness it's simply not caring. Which is what I feel for the new dungeon rewards already. They will add another variation on a race because of "demand" but don't fix said races headgear. I'm betting female Hrothgar with 90% of headgear broken on Viera and Hrothgar :mad:

I'm so mad. I want to look cute as a Viera and enjoy hats.
I refuse to fantasia just to enjoy a hat. It's about the aesthetic of my bun ears poking out the top of hats that keeps me going.
The mod doesn't help because you want other people to see your glams.

Hrothguys and Bunfolk deserve nice hats. Please not another All Saints Wake event where I can't wear the head gear.

Literally 0 reason as to why all races can't wear the new hats. It's either them being neglectful or rude. Lazy is no longer an option since it's been shown with mods how easy of a fix it is.

Can't believe they keep doing this. Are they really going to let a bunch of third party modders show them up?

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Can't believe they keep doing this. Are they really going to let a bunch of third party modders show them up?

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why not, its worked well for bethesda for the last 20 years

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Originally Posted by OgruMogru

I better see Columbo glams everywhere >.>

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"Oh, Just... One more thing..."

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Originally Posted by Azala

At this point it's not laziness it's simply not caring. Which is what I feel for the new dungeon rewards already. They will add another variation on a race because of "demand" but don't fix said races headgear. I'm betting female Hrothgar with 90% of headgear broken on Viera and Hrothgar :mad:

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Them not caring is even worse. Come on, FFXIV team. This is straight up disappointing. :(

Could have at least given us the sunglasses

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Nah, you aren't whining in a negative manner. There's no good reason why they can't make Viera ears or even Hrothgar heads work with newly added armor/glamour sets.

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This is a sentence I REALLY want to reiterate.

We can understand their excuses. We can understand their lacks of resources. We can understand so many things. But understanding isn't justification. We've had so many threads of people justifying their behaviour and tell us "please consider" the devs, their lives and their efforts. And we did. We even made up theories as to why we're not getting things.

But make no mistake, these aren't some stooges in a garage making a game, this is Square freaking Enix. And Final Fantasy is their bloody flagship. The one trait Yoshida played to remake it into ARR and not let it sink.

It doesn't matter what excuses they have. We've heard them all before. We know that they're not robots and are limited. But there's no good reason as to why they've spent all this time not giving us headgear. Especially new headgear that is put into the game past our release.

There just is no excuse.

Good to know. Now I won't waste my time learning to unlock this glam with my main.

At this point it's more depressing than infuriating. It's baffling when SOME of the hats on the latest dungeon work but others don't, despite the hats clipping and the devs INSISTING it's because of clipping issues. Sometimes a Viera can wear it but not a Hroth, or the other way around. There's no consistency at all in this game when it comes to a quarter of the playable races.



As much praise as I give the devs, this is one of the biggest flaws of their mindset, that unless their Japanese player base says it's a problem, they're willfully blind to it.

Hey Square Memex. Deleting my post doesn't make what I said any less true. Why don't you guys prove me wrong by working on your own game instead?

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

why not, its worked well for bethesda for the last 20 years

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One of the biggest reasons that Skyrim is still alive and kicking, honestly. The players themselves keep providing the content for free. Once I got it on PC and started modding, I was spoiled. I can't, and won't, play it without mods.

My jaw was literrally dropping when I saw the relic weapon.

At first, I was like : It's Manderville, what should we except other than some "funny" skin of weapon...

Well, I'm glad that I was wrong. I've taken the Scythe and the Gunblade and they look sick as hell ! Can't wait to have the VFX on those !

Something something Noir set something Miqo'te ears again something something...

Surprisingly, the Wake Doctor Mask from the Halloween event has ear pockets. What is this madness? I was not expecting to find something in Endwalker that I wouldn't mind actually wearing.

But yes, all new headgear SHOULD be wearable on Viera and Hrothgar (and not cut off Miqo'te ears). SE's excuse was that they couldn't wear OLD headgear because it would be too much work to fit hundreds of models on their unique head shapes. Well what's their excuse for new headgear? That's just plain ol' laziness.

I find it pretty sad that some random person can make a mod that fixes most hats for Viera and Hrothgar and make it look good when they wear it, but SE cannot be bothered.

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Originally Posted by Espon

I find it pretty sad that some random person can make a mod that fixes most hats for Viera and Hrothgar and make it look good when they wear it, but SE cannot be bothered.

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And they said they would spare no expense. Now imagine if they were saving.

Be careful when telling the truth (that Square Memex is less efficient than amateur programmers and 3D modelers), they can delete your post.

Meme company. No wonder they announced the closing of another game. They can't even deal with what's already right, imagine releasing a new game

That was to be expected, since the hat shows off hairstyles and for some reason viera still don't have a hat-wearing mesh for our hair so: No hat for us.
I just wish they would make a second item which is just the glasses, why can't they do that when the mesh is already in the game? It would then be an item other players can use if they don't like the hat and viera and hroth could also enjoy the cool glasses. I don't get this trend of sticking cool glasses to hats when there are races who can't use the item.