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10-08-2022, 01:08 AM
Towa-Musa

Fun fact.

There's no point to the English threads in any category because nobody from the devs will ever listen to you out of pride. So scream into the void and troll people when you're bored, getting banned or suspended here has no effect on your ability to play the game.

EDIT: I personally would prefer that you did not troll or scream into the void BUT hey you do you.
10-08-2022, 01:14 AM
Carin-Eri

Doesn't bother me personally. Whilst a middle-ground would be preferable, I prefer this - being able to have open discussion both positive and negative - over the alternative of moderators who're all too eager to find comments deemed even remotely negative toward the game/any aspect of it so that they can either edit the comments beyond recognition or outright delete the post.
10-08-2022, 01:17 AM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Doesn't bother me personally. Whilst a middle-ground would be preferable, I prefer this - being able to have open discussion both positive and negative - over the alternative of moderators who're all too eager to find comments deemed even remotely negative toward the game/any aspect of it so that they can either edit the comments beyond recognition or outright delete the post.

Yeah, alot of the people who will call you bad just because you point out actual problems in pvp don't really deserve any attention. if there was a mute or black list in the forums i got three misquotes id slap with it.
10-08-2022, 01:26 AM
Canadane

The devs generally don't listen to any language.
This is what community reps are for. They're the ones that get ignored by the devs on our behalf.
10-08-2022, 01:29 AM
Towa-Musa

Oh no, The japanese forums are catered to.
10-08-2022, 03:13 AM
Osmond

Sometimes you got to take both positive or negative feedback. Catering to one side ends up a cancer or toxic in the long run. I think they just…..well, we are in an age where positivity is everything(exaggeration).
10-08-2022, 03:33 AM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Osmond

Sometimes you got to take both positive or negative feedback. Catering to one side ends up a cancer or toxic in the long run. I think they just…..well, we are in an age where positivity is everything(exaggeration).

i mean i agree with you but when nobody from SE even looks at this shit let alone even take it into account, whats the point? they just look at the JP forums and leave us in the wind.
10-08-2022, 06:19 AM
Mistress_Irika

If the devs didnt listen to people folks would not be playing a slightly nerf SMN in frontlines.
10-08-2022, 09:00 AM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

If the devs didnt listen to people folks would not be playing a slightly nerf SMN in frontlines.

p sure that was something that was bitched about on the JP Forums.
10-09-2022, 10:33 AM
Karasio

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

If the devs didnt listen to people folks would not be playing a slightly nerf SMN in frontlines.

If even one person from the PvP team was looking over here they'd see the endless complaints about paladins in onsal :^)
10-10-2022, 05:52 AM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Karasio

If even one person from the PvP team was looking over here they'd see the endless complaints about paladins in onsal :^)

they're finally fixing it lol i guess some from the JP side finally got tired of it and made a thread.
10-10-2022, 02:43 PM
Necrotica

As much as I wish our issues were fixed it is probably best if the devs ignore the western world as far as game design input. Otherwise we get an update where Minfilia is replaced by an overweight trans person of color.

There is a reason we are playing a Japanese game.
10-10-2022, 04:31 PM
Vatom

Hmmm.... ok
10-10-2022, 07:02 PM
Aword3213

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

As much as I wish our issues were fixed it is probably best if the devs ignore the western world as far as game design input. Otherwise we get an update where Minfilia is replaced by an overweight trans person of color.

There is a reason we are playing a Japanese game.

Y'shtola will then become a hyur birthing person with green hair and identify as a cat sorceress
10-10-2022, 09:13 PM
Mandudez

We should start making events where we pick days to makes alts on JP servers and use these "features" in every match to make them aware of it ;).
10-10-2022, 09:18 PM
Osmond

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrotica

As much as I wish our issues were fixed it is probably best if the devs ignore the western world as far as game design input. Otherwise we get an update where Minfilia is replaced by an overweight trans person of color.

There is a reason we are playing a Japanese game.

As the way things are going, I won’t be surprised that it happened. To the point, to me, I was against it wholeheartedly, now I’m all for it because I want ppl to see how dumb their decisions have gotten us to.
10-10-2022, 11:30 PM
Towa-Musa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrotica

As much as I wish our issues were fixed it is probably best if the devs ignore the western world as far as game design input. Otherwise we get an update where Minfilia is replaced by an overweight trans person of color.

There is a reason we are playing a Japanese game.

Lmao yeah, there is a reason.
10-10-2022, 11:31 PM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Y'shtola will then become a hyur birthing person with green hair and identify as a cat sorceress

Bruh, i should not be laughing but yeah id not listen to us too atm
10-12-2022, 07:59 AM
Karasio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrotica

As much as I wish our issues were fixed it is probably best if the devs ignore the western world as far as game design input. Otherwise we get an update where Minfilia is replaced by an overweight trans person of color.

There is a reason we are playing a Japanese game.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Y'shtola will then become a hyur birthing person with green hair and identify as a cat sorceress

You both should get off the internet and seek some help for those boogeymen you're talking about lmao.

I'm not sure if you're aware of such a thing as filtering feedback/comments. If someone told you to jump off a cliff, I hope to god you wouldn't just do it. People are able to filter through feedback internally and determine what's actually helpful. Can't believe this has to be said lmao.
10-12-2022, 06:34 PM
Osmond

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Originally Posted by Karasio

You both should get off the internet and seek some help for those boogeymen you're talking about lmao.

I'm not sure if you're aware of such a thing as filtering feedback/comments. If someone told you to jump off a cliff, I hope to god you wouldn't just do it. People are able to filter through feedback internally and determine what's actually helpful. Can't believe this has to be said lmao.

They already know. It's one of those things where you know the decisions are dumb, the actions are dumb and it will bring severe consequences overtime. Yet, if the company higher positions in other places are doubling down on the dumb actions. Instead of fighting back, you just head to another place or game, but encourage said actions while you on the way out. Then they start to question why everything is a turd sandwich. You can pretty much see it if you do a little search. Some companies are listening to "someone" that's telling them to jump off a cliff and they are jumping off a cliff, going bankrupt. They can "filter" it, but again, it's everywhere now, IT'S EVERYWHERE......
10-13-2022, 02:00 AM
KenaiChoppa

I dont know, they maybe not hear our suggestions but at least people can get "community feedback". And even if Yoshi-P and other devs are mainly focusing on JP players, you can bet your chocobo that in some meetings someone says "Btw, the western community doesnt like this or are asking for this other thing". Worse case scenario at least you can just express what you think about something and feel heard.

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Originally Posted by Karasio

I'm not sure if you're aware of such a thing as filtering feedback/comments. If someone told you to jump off a cliff, I hope to god you wouldn't just do it. People are able to filter through feedback internally and determine what's actually helpful. Can't believe this has to be said lmao.

LoL, if only that were true.

Yes, there is a small population (that many times doesnt even play the game/watch the movie) but they are very vocal in social media and journalism. Examples there are A LOT, just see a list of recent reboots or "Spiritual successor" and you will get an idea. The problem is that the higher ups believe that most people want something that the community doesnt really want, or are so desperate to get awards they are willing to sacrifice an IP.
10-13-2022, 02:36 AM
Divinemights

Fun fact, this is Japanese MMORPG, what do you expect?
Since when ever Blizzard cares about feedback from Asian WoW players?
What makes you think you should be special?

There are also a lot reasons why this forum is not valued:

1. Most of thread are just ranting, not feedback
2. Quality of writing is poor and lack of in-depth content. You should check the way Japanese players write their post
3. Lack of respect on opinion different than your and always starting personal attack This resulting no progressive discussion to make your concern presentable

Final word, this forum doesn’t provide useful feedback or progressive discussion. Occupied by bunch of players with 9 years mentality ranting
10-13-2022, 05:10 AM
Osmond

It does……….it’s just how the NA community act. Gotta go through the bad in order to find the good feedback. To make NA or other regions to be just the same as JP is crazy talk lol. To try to act collectively in one mind or uhh….respond the same…just give up. NA just….if there’s something wrong and it’s not getting through, it will get put on blast…for badgood reasons.
10-13-2022, 07:31 AM
Karasio

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Originally Posted by KenaiChoppa

LoL, if only that were true.

Yes, there is a small population (that many times doesnt even play the game/watch the movie) but they are very vocal in social media and journalism. Examples there are A LOT, just see a list of recent reboots or "Spiritual successor" and you will get an idea. The problem is that the higher ups believe that most people want something that the community doesnt really want, or are so desperate to get awards they are willing to sacrifice an IP.

I can see where you're coming from, but the case with this specific game at least seems to be that the team has a strong vision of where it's headed and whatnot. So I don't really see any way of any of Minfilia being turned into an "overweight trans person" for the sake of satisfying some invisible crowd that doesn't even play the game.
10-13-2022, 09:24 AM
Towa-Musa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karasio

You both should get off the internet and seek some help for those boogeymen you're talking about lmao.

I'm not sure if you're aware of such a thing as filtering feedback/comments. If someone told you to jump off a cliff, I hope to god you wouldn't just do it. People are able to filter through feedback internally and determine what's actually helpful. Can't believe this has to be said lmao.

Pretty sure they were joking my guy.
10-13-2022, 08:17 PM
Karasio

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

Pretty sure they were joking my guy.

Maybe, maybe not. Either way it's ludicrous lmao.
10-13-2022, 08:51 PM
Burmecia

Let's try this then: COULD SCH HAVE NICER AOE CAPABILITY, PLEEEASE!

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10-14-2022, 05:18 AM
Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by Karasio

Maybe, maybe not. Either way it's ludicrous lmao.

Oh well, its not like anybody's gonna care on these forums. devs only listen to the JP forums.
10-14-2022, 06:10 PM
Mandudez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinemights

Fun fact, this is Japanese MMORPG, what do you expect?
Since when ever Blizzard cares about feedback from Asian WoW players?
What makes you think you should be special?

There are also a lot reasons why this forum is not valued:

1. Most of thread are just ranting, not feedback
2. Quality of writing is poor and lack of in-depth content. You should check the way Japanese players write their post
3. Lack of respect on opinion different than your and always starting personal attack This resulting no progressive discussion to make your concern presentable

Final word, this forum doesn’t provide useful feedback or progressive discussion. Occupied by bunch of players with 9 years mentality ranting

There used to be TONS of great feedback here until SE went literal YEARS without even a single post from ANYONE here. SE basically said "thank you for all of your support and money while the game was growing but now we are big enough we don't need to pretend to care about you any more." Pathetic.
10-18-2022, 07:59 AM
Karasio

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

There used to be TONS of great feedback here until SE went literal YEARS without even a single post from ANYONE here. SE basically said "thank you for all of your support and money while the game was growing but now we are big enough we don't need to pretend to care about you any more." Pathetic.

Yeah people tend to get pretty pissy when their voices aren't taken into account, which leads to many of the emotionally charged threads and posts on here. Something I'm guilty of myself :)

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