Still no Kaiten? The Devs have failed us.

Welp, 6.2 has come and gone and we still have no Kaiten. I was under the impression they planned to give it back in 6.2 if we b*tched loud enough about it. So here I am again, making it known that this samurai main is very unhappy with the direction the devs are going with job balancing. Everything in the duty finder feels like a crystal tower run without Kaiten and I hate it. Who was this change intended for? Who did they think would enjoy nerfing a job that was known for being a big damage dealer? I refuse to take Kaiten off my hotbar because I'm still holding onto the hope that the devs will realize the error of their ways and fix this horrible mistake.

“Im not agreeing with square here”

This change wasn’t designed for people who actually play SAM, it’s the same as every change made to the healers since 3.5 and the massive changes to tank agro. Square doesn’t care about the established players of the job, they care about balancing to the lowest common denominator and removal of “bloat” skills is exactly how they do it, in their eyes why have Kaiten to pump up midare when they can make it crit and then they don’t have to balance as much

Once you realise that all the changes since like 4.4 make sense

I was just hoping they'd at least acknowledge the feedback they specifically asked us to provide, but it was ignored. This job does feel like a job sync'd down to Crystal Tower, the gap between a GCD and an unkaiten'd midare makes me sick, also midares don't hit as hard as they used to so building 8 GCDs towards it isn't as satisfying.

I guess we'll see why they removed Kaiten for "design room" in 7.0.. you know, removing abilities on the first odd patch since launch to make room for new ones 2 years later

*SE1: >Removes Hissatsu:Kaiten but buffs potency of SAM skills across the board*

"My uptime is gone!"

*SE1: >Continues to buff more SAM skills with 100 more potency here and there*

"My uptime is gone!"

*SE1: "........"

"My uptime is gone!"

*SE2: "Just revert the base potency back sir and give em' Kaiten, i know it doesn't make sense sir, but just do it.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

*SE1: >Removes Hissatsu:Kaiten but buffs potency of SAM skills across the board*

"My uptime is gone!"

*SE1: >Continues to buff more SAM skills with 100 more potency here and there*

"My uptime is gone!"

*SE1: "........"

"My uptime is gone!"

*SE2: "Just revert the base potency back sir and give em' Kaiten, i know it doesn't make sense sir, but just do it.

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we don't play SAM for the combo finishers, we play it for big dick midares. It can do the most damage overall in the game, and they can keep throwing potency into our Yukikaze/Gekko/Kasha and every GCD between, but I still won't play it in its current state.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

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Samurai could do 10,000 damage on every gdc. I still wouldn't play it. It's about what's fun to play and rewarding, not purely numbers.

Abysmal changes, and yes Feedback still Ignored

Utterly depressing part is the overall lack of understanding and empathy on why SAM mains request Kaiten back, from Dev's, Yoshi and community. It's not about more buffs, it's about preserving Gameplay. The Fantasy of Charging resources, and striking big hits channeled as a Melee Caster. Each heavy hit we used to perform is made " weightless " and " thoughtless " now.

" Worshipping a Statistics webpage isn't Fun to Me "
Big Hits in the In-Game moments, that's what made SAM fun. Don't take that from me, take it from Yoshi-P in a recent Live-letter acknowledging that those big hits is what made Samurai. Not have it locked behind Raid-buffs, or made flaccid by Auto-Crit and distributing the potencies across our other kits and removing Kaiten.

" Total Performance Numbers doesn't equal Fun Gameplay "
Removing complexity of any Job, and not even questioning it? just solidifies that SE can just take any amount of gameplay/button/nuances away from any Job and compensate all the lost gameplay with buffed potencies across every job kit. No matter how negatively it impacts the gameplay, community just nods their heads it's cause perfectly flawless, unquestionable. Cause that's the mindset isn't it?

" Bad changes are fine since it's SE's norm to do "
Bull. Such asinine... backwards thinking, like that is the essence of " improving, preserving, evolving FFXIV's PvE combat gameplay"...

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Originally Posted by Flashy

we don't play SAM for the combo finishers, we play it for big dick midares. It can do the most damage overall in the game, and they can keep throwing potency into our Yukikaze/Gekko/Kasha and every GCD between, but I still won't play it in its current state.

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Personally, I play it for how it flows and the animations.

Give it a few years and our PvE bars will be like PvP

Oh look another crying spam. Go touch grass.

yes another if we cry loud enough they will be scared enough to do what you say topic sorry the programmers do not visit here and don't care how loud you cry they have better things to do with their time.

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Originally Posted by SilverSkyway

Oh look another crying spam. Go touch grass.

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Oh look, another addition to my ignore list.

Thanks for bumping the thread!