Firing isn't enough for this game design.

91.5% to 0%.

Then overtime. They win.

We made it past a checkpoint. They did not. Why did it go into overtime?

Why are the devs so bad at this? IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE.

I refuse to believe that anyone, let alone supposed professionals could be this stupid.

Because the match doesn't end unless they leave the point. It doesn't matter if its 99% vs 0% you have to get them off of it :p

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Originally Posted by Nanne

Because the match doesn't end unless they leave the point. It doesn't matter if its 99% vs 0% you have to get them off of it :p

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Point being it's shit design

If your team manages to push past a checkpoint and the other team has not, you should win at the timers end regardless of who is standing where. Nothing worse then getting team killed in a staggered way only to never have enough forces to ply the point back in overtime loosing your what should of been clear victory. Or be stuck in an overtime for longer then the original match length.
And on a bit of a different but similar point, capping tank/healers per match. It is next to impossible sometimes to remove a pair of tanks from the crystal. This causing stupidly long overtimes.

Every game that has payload has that design. You might lose the push but win in overtime. Sometimes to takes the O' beep moment to get everyone gears going.

while i do agree with the sentiment of losing in ot despite being in the lead or pushing to ~90%, most people will just say its your teams fault for not being able to close it out. i do feel like if you clear the check point and the enemy team doesnt have like half your progress or none at all or something you should just win at the end but thats me. i doubt anything will change since they probably want comeback mechanics like this that work at all levels of play. i just wish at the very least they put a message under the overtime splash that states your teams win condition cuz i think 80% of people still havent figured it out yet.

If there's no chance of recovery after the enemy makes some progress there's no motive to try which will make people give up and throw matches. It's also less exciting if you don't even get the chance to stall and come back with LB and good burst play.

So you're seething after losing one game because your team, somehow after pushing to +90% choked and somehow couldn't coordinate enough to push the enemy off the point for three seconds, you should understand how the game works before you start calling for firings like a Karen. I bet you'd be just as upset if your party doesn't stay on point during overtime and loses even though you could've come back from a disadvantage.

People, don't be like OP.

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Point being it's shit design

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90% of the time it's shit play.

I can get along with how it works in theory.. what i find it a little silly is that when enemy team push back the payload it seems to go like a thousand times faster lol.. also the fact that they do not have to clear "the passages" it is a bit unfair imho..
i have some matches were enemy team seemed to lure my team till the "checkpoint" just to push back the payload faster in return.. dunno, happened a couple of times and really seemed deliberate.. dunno if it is a possible real strategy

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I can get along with how it works in theory.. what i find it a little silly is that when enemy team push back the payload it seems to go like a thousand times faster lol.. also the fact that they do not have to clear "the passages" it is a bit unfair imho..
i have some matches were enemy team seemed to lure my team till the "checkpoint" just to push back the payload faster in return.. dunno, happened a couple of times and really seemed deliberate.. dunno if it is a possible real strategy

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The losing side gets an advantage during overtime? That seems a bit stupid. Overtime itself is enough of a comeback mechanic lmao. Can't imagine what intern-san was smoking when he thought this one up lol

Not gonna lie, if my team keeps dying and i cant carry them to victory.... i just wait for match to end and harass a enemy or try to, nothing i can do at that point after all.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

91.5% to 0%.

Then overtime. They win.

We made it past a checkpoint. They did not. Why did it go into overtime?

Why are the devs so bad at this? IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE.

I refuse to believe that anyone, let alone supposed professionals could be this stupid.

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they don't have anybody that is actually a dedicated PVP designer, its just cobbled together.

wow bad people cursing demanding and calling company employees names that they have no controlle over time for the ban stick for these unruly trolls.

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Originally Posted by Karasio

The losing side gets an advantage during overtime? That seems a bit stupid. Overtime itself is enough of a comeback mechanic lmao. Can't imagine what intern-san was smoking when he thought this one up lol

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The losing team doesn't get an advantage.

There are two reasons why the crystal moves faster in some circumstances:

1. The team pushing it in the opponent's half of the field.

2. The team has reclaimed the crystal after the opponent pushed it back some distance, and is moving along this stretch for the second time.

Basically, each team pushes out the boundaries of the zone in which the crystal will move faster, but it's fair for both teams within that zone.

If Team A gets the crystal to the 50% checkpoint and Team B gets control, it will move faster for Team B because of reason 1. But at the same time if Team A gets it back again, it will also move faster for them because of reason 2, until they get it back to the furthest point they reached earlier.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

91.5% to 0%.

Then overtime. They win.

We made it past a checkpoint. They did not. Why did it go into overtime?

Why are the devs so bad at this? IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE.

I refuse to believe that anyone, let alone supposed professionals could be this stupid.

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If you are ahead 91.5% to 0% and wipe to the enemy team, then wipe to them again multiple times while they push the payload from 0% to 91.6%, you deserve to lose.

ShinyChariot is powerful.

"So we were leading 4:0 and it's like 80 minutes on the clock. Of course we've already won and our goalie and half the team just went for a quick smoke. Imagine the other team just going and scoring 5 goals in those last 10 minutes?! Preposterous! Whoever designed football rules must be fired!!11!!"

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The losing team doesn't get an advantage.

There are two reasons why the crystal moves faster in some circumstances:

1. The team pushing it in the opponent's half of the field.

2. The team has reclaimed the crystal after the opponent pushed it back some distance, and is moving along this stretch for the second time.

Basically, each team pushes out the boundaries of the zone in which the crystal will move faster, but it's fair for both teams within that zone.

If Team A gets the crystal to the 50% checkpoint and Team B gets control, it will move faster for Team B because of reason 1. But at the same time if Team A gets it back again, it will also move faster for them because of reason 2, until they get it back to the furthest point they reached earlier.

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Interesting. Personally I haven't noticed that since I'm too busy going shrimp mode. Kinda don't like the crystal moving faster for either team since I feel like overtime is enough to try and swing the match. Thanks for the insight though c:

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The losing team doesn't get an advantage.

There are two reasons why the crystal moves faster in some circumstances:

1. The team pushing it in the opponent's half of the field.

2. The team has reclaimed the crystal after the opponent pushed it back some distance, and is moving along this stretch for the second time.

Basically, each team pushes out the boundaries of the zone in which the crystal will move faster, but it's fair for both teams within that zone.

If Team A gets the crystal to the 50% checkpoint and Team B gets control, it will move faster for Team B because of reason 1. But at the same time if Team A gets it back again, it will also move faster for them because of reason 2, until they get it back to the furthest point they reached earlier.

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You forgot the check-point thing

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Originally Posted by ShinyChariot

If there's no chance of recovery after the enemy makes some progress there's no motive to try which will make people give up and throw matches. It's also less exciting if you don't even get the chance to stall and come back with LB and good burst play.

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^^^ This ^^^

People would give up constantly without Overtime working the way it does. If you can't push them off the point, then you didn't deserve the win. Same rules for everyone.

If you lose in that position, either your team threw, or the enemy team made an adaption and your team could not adapt in kind. After all, to make it that far, you probably won two team fights, so you had all the tools in the world to win.

But you didn't.

They probably won two or more big fights, and have every right to win.

There are flaws with the OT system with clarity, communication, and maybe things dragging out too long, but swings from the extreme are not one of them. They are magnificent, and make for more exciting games.

I feel like there shouldn't be overtime if one team clears the checkpoint. With somewhat organized group you could just farm the opposing team on your side of the map until the last second and then just push at overtime to victory.
Overtime also should have some system that attempts to make the game end quickly during it, the worst i had was almost a 19 minute match. Hell, it could even be just the same effect that the Feast had with its increasing damage taken so overtimes would resolve rather quickly.

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Originally Posted by Proxers

I feel like there shouldn't be overtime if one team clears the checkpoint. With somewhat organized group you could just farm the opposing team on your side of the map until the last second and then just push at overtime to victory.
Overtime also should have some system that attempts to make the game end quickly during it, the worst i had was almost a 19 minute match. Hell, it could even be just the same effect that the Feast had with its increasing damage taken so overtimes would resolve rather quickly.

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Organized group? Those don't exist.

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Originally Posted by Proxers

I feel like there shouldn't be overtime if one team clears the checkpoint. With somewhat organized group you could just farm the opposing team on your side of the map until the last second and then just push at overtime to victory.
Overtime also should have some system that attempts to make the game end quickly during it, the worst i had was almost a 19 minute match. Hell, it could even be just the same effect that the Feast had with its increasing damage taken so overtimes would resolve rather quickly.

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This is the nicer idea i have seen till now about this mechanic

Subject, concur, 100000%.