Leveling multiple classes during MSQ?

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

It really is an up to you thing though. The MSQ is a great way to gain xp and rush a class to end game so thats why people will suggest just using all of it for one class. I've also known of people who level all of their classes to level cap for each expac before starting the next so they have options to pick from in case they're bored of playing just one class.

In a nutshell, MSQ will absolutely have you hit level 90 on one class before the end of Endwalker. If you spread it across multiple, you may need to use other options to level if you don't at least hit the req to start each expac. So, depends on what *you* want to do ultimately and if you feel the need to use multiple classes/are okay using dungeons to level.

The thing is though…everyone progressed/progresses slowly & you can just get by MsQ going at a slower rate with different classes or remain with one & work on other’s later on.

Not sure what you’re truly inquiring & no need to add further blocks to your goals; just have fun

In my opinion, you're doing exactly the right thing.
The game throws way more experience at you than you need for a single job, particularly in the lower-level expansions. If you have the Road to 80 buff, even more so.
It will turn out exactly as you said, having to pause MSQ and level other jobs to catch up.

Due to the way content is gated and synced, there is no point in leveling ANY job beyond what your current MSQ level is.
If you keep going too high in ARR, you will begin to feel this acutely when you can't use any of your job skills in the 50s range because they are all from quests gated by access to Heavensward and you're not that far yet.

Also, lower-level jobs don't have as many interesting combat options as they do later on, so rotating is great to maintain some variety. (And even max-level jobs can get stale if you play only one.)

You could probably do one of each role comfortably in ARR (melee, ranged, caster, healer, tank) without too much side material to keep up, if you have the Road to 80.
As you push into higher MSQ levels this pool of jobs you can comfortably maintain will shrink. At that point you can pause the ones you aren't as interested in or keep them up with roulettes and other side content. For your reference, I did Endwalker by rotating the experience on two jobs, and in a few places I reran the latest dungeon and did some side quests, daily hunts, or FATEs to keep them on track (no roulettes, however).

Having several jobs leveled means you can indulge in whatever side content you like or run roulettes with your FC and friends without worrying about your level on your one job pointlessly skyrocketing.

The burden you will feel taking on a new job comes with the class/job quests, which you have to do to maintain access to all skills. Those can take time.
You'll have to decide how much of that upkeep you want while still maintaining forward momentum on the MSQ.

As a side note, the MSQ becomes more and more a collection of cutscenes that deliver experience on quest turn-ins.
If you want to enjoy the battle content more to take a break from all that, having several jobs reasonably leveled and ready is a great idea.

Anyways I think you have the right approach!

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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Well, the golden rule is: play as you want to play. (yep, sorry, but it's true).

That said, I'll tell you the way I play:
When i make a new char, I enjoy to put some concept in him/her. Like: "this one here will be a magic master (all heals and magical dps)". Or... "this one here will be versatile as a melee and a bold tanker".

I do that because I don't like the omnipotent feel we have in this game (one single character can do everything, like a god...).

And, how I do that?
EXACTLY like you do: leveling 2 to 3 classes/jobs (or more) alternating between them as I progress level by level in each one (limited by the concept I gave to the char). So, for a magic Master, as i level Scholar and White mage I also level black mage and red mage. When one of them reaches another lv, I change the job and continue the quests. When doing roulettes, I try to go mixing the jobs (based on what role the roulette is giving bonuses). In this way, I never get overleveled and never bored since my char fits into a concept all the time. It's easier even if I do some RP with the char.

It's a bit slow to progress in this way, but I enjoy doing it A BIG LOT MORE than being omniscient and omnipotent or focusing in just one job to rush like if my char needs to pee on the moon since lv1...

So, you just try to find the way you like most. What way gives you more meaning while playing this game. What you think is more enjoyable for you and go for it ;)
Don't care much about the others. I always regret when I dediced to rush stuff because someone in the FC told me that "the only fun is endgame". It is NOT the only fun stuff, believe me :) I like to do side quests (yep, the yellow ones) as I reach a new place for my char. It's slower, but meaningfull to me.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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If you do sidequests and/or roulettes you will easily get enough XP to level up 2 or even 3 classes in parallell, and that is what I usually do since otherwise your level and the level of quests/dungeons get out of sync very quickly.
There is no particular reason why one should stick to just one class, so if you think leveling multiple classes/jobs at once works best for you - then you should absolutely keep doing so.

I found it more fun to just level one job through the MSQ, then go back and level the other jobs through side quests, FATE grinds for zones completion (not the same job I just leveled/is at top level), duties, etc. This was more efficient for me. I tried leveling multiple jobs through an MSQ and in my opinion, was slower to level really. I would think you would want at least one job to be able to participate in high end duties, raids, etc. Leveling more than one job at a time without that ability will make things more stale to play.

Just my $.02.

I did what you're doing. I always like having a tank, a healer, and a DPS role leveled similarly so I can use whichever I want at any given time. I typically do MSQ with one class, sidequests with a second class, and then daily roulettes with a third, but I frequently find that sidequest class ends up doing quite a bit of MSQ, too, since my MSQ class gets well ahead of the MSQ itself in level.

Play as you like. XP is so easy so come by these days and you can cumulate several bonuses. If you get too over levelled later on, you can also pick up Samurai and Red Mage at lvl 50, dancer and gunbreaker at 60 as well as sage and reaper at 70. There’s also drk and mch at 30 but that is only at the end of HW whereas the other ones can be picked up with no other requirement than level.

I already have 10 jobs at 90 and two at mid 80 on an alt and am only halfway SHB as I go for a lot of side content I didn’t bother with on my main. I may take the tomestone event as an opportunity to level up more jobs as it will be useless to run all these duties on lvl 90 jobs.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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Guess some people missed this part of the OP post ... Why so eager to give advise without even checking what kind assistant is requested. :confused:

To your question, as someone who recently rolled 2 alt at the end of Shadowbringer, you can definitely level 2 job in parallels, 3 if you stretch it out a bit more. But it also depend a bit on how much you play as well.

At the minimum, if you're playing A LOT of hour a day, and thus will blow the story in the minimum number of real date . Than you can keep it at 2 jobs. Basically, one job (DPS recommend) will level via the EXP received from the quest, and a second job (tank/healer recommend) via dungeon (and by that I mean the first run in order to advance the story, not grind). So basically, level them both to level 15. Do the world quest on one job, but whenever you hit a point that require you to enter a dungeon/trial, pop it on your other job. If one start to fall behind the content level requirement, catch it up with a roulette.

if you don't play a lot a day though, then it's possible to squeeze in a third job via the daily roulette. I did this on my 4th alt and were able to keep 3 jobs in close proximity up. 1 gets EXP from quest, 1 from first time dungeon/trial, 1 from dailies.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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The reason people always say “play it your way” is because it's true.

There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to leveling. If you want to be as efficient as possible and maximize every bit of exp, go for it. Just because someone else prefers to take it easy on a single job doesn't mean you have to as well.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Guess some people missed this part of the OP post ... Why so eager to give advise without even checking what kind assistant is requested. :confused: .

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Yet that’s exactly what the Op (and everyone else) is doing, we’re all “playing it our way”

In terms of effiency it's best to level a dps via MSQ quests while doing the dungeons on either tank or healer as you have lower queue times on them.
Youc an easily level 2 classes without regularly doing extras like roulettes or WT but if you do some extras a bit more regularly (doesn't have to be daily though), you will hit 90 with 3 classes by the end of EW. You also have the benefit of instantly having 2-3 classes (and roles) to choose from for content, depending on what is in highest demand for the content you're doing.
Alli raid has fairly short queue times for DPS, other roulettes favour tanks and especially healer. Any specific duties I recommend healer for better queue times same for playing at odd hours.

So the "just level one class" is nice for people that want to include a bit of RP as it feels more like a consistent concept but if that's no concern for you than I would recommend leveling at least 2 classes. Since you can also pick up some classes at 30/50/60/70, it's fairly easy to get 3 to 90 during MSQ.
I leveled only DRG during MSQ on one character and I can't recommend that if you want to play more efficiently. Duties were always a roadblock outside prime times, I was way overleveled and it just felt wrong and unsatisfying to be close to 60 while not even having my HW skills unlocked as I hadn't reached the area for it yet. Quest rewards were wasted as I already outleveled the armor by a mile.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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Do what's fun to you.

That said, when you get to the higher levels of the MSQ (especially past 80 when extra XP bonuses drop off) you'll find it impossible to keep up all 3 without doing side content as you go. When I'm leveling a new alt, I usually stick to 2 jobs - a DPS for the solo parts and either tank or healer for the instanced content. That gives me enough of a buffer that I usually only need to do hunt bills on the side to get both to level cap right about the time I'm getting to the end of the main MSQ.

Another factor is how much you play daily. The more you play a day, the more side content you'll need to do since you don't get much advantage from the rested XP bonus.

A lot of people have the mindset "Must get to endgame ASAP, go go go skip all the cutscenes never do any optional content ever go go go go go"

... I wonder why this is the MMO they chose.

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Originally Posted by Jennah

A lot of people have the mindset "Must get to endgame ASAP, go go go skip all the cutscenes never do any optional content ever go go go go go"

... I wonder why this is the MMO they chose.

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Because there are still fun things to do even if you don't have an appreciation for the story.

Or because they used to play one of the other MMOs where endgame was "the game" and leveling was just an obstacle in the way. They get brainwashed into thinking that every MMO is designed that way.

There's a persistent bit of misinformation (that I think used to be true, but was changed years ago) that you get more bonus EXP on secondary jobs according to the level of your highest job, in which case getting one to max level would be beneficial. This is not the case, and EXP now simply has a fixed bonus for all jobs that are not your highest-levelled job.

I think the best approach is to keep at least two jobs slightly ahead of MSQ level, but ideally not too far in front. The amount of EXP you get from quests is "worth more" when close to the intended quest level because it fills a bigger percentage of the EXP bar.

I've been personally leveling 2 roles as I work though Main Story 80 to 90, both RDM and WHM. Been working out pretty well and I do all the side quests. There is way too much xp wasted if all you do is level one role.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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I think your FC mates are just telling you to main one class.
But if you can play all those classes at the same level, I say level them all.
And I also rotate during MSQ to not waste EXP
But if you raid, you are gonna have to pick a main to gear up.
But that is endgame and should not be a thing during MSQ

It's doable. The MSQ is a lot to take in if you're actually watching cutscenes. Assuming you're doing all your daily roulettes on different classes as you progress you should get a lot of levels on your alt classes. You're not going to hit 90 on all of them at once or anything but it'll help.

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Originally Posted by Jennah

A lot of people have the mindset "Must get to endgame ASAP, go go go skip all the cutscenes never do any optional content ever go go go go go"

... I wonder why this is the MMO they chose.

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Nobody said anything about skipping cutscenes, getting to endgame asap and never do optional content though?
The OP simply used their functioning brain and some common sense while doing the MSQ and noticed "Oh, look. I'm way overleveled by using one class, maybe I should just level two classes at the same time?". "Efficiency" may be a really evil word for some people but you can enjoy things while being efficient at them.

And even if someone skipped all cutscenes and never does optional side content: what's it to you? Your enjoyment doesn't suddenly disappear because someone else enjoys things differently. Makes me wonder why go through the hassle of coming into the thread that wasn't about this at all.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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I say if you are having fun keep doing it your way. I personally do exactly what you do when I level up a new alt. I don't like to waste xp.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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I lvled up two classes from 80 to 90 with EW msq and sidequests alone. If I didn't switch there would be a lot of exp going simply to waste as you literally can not get more when hitting 90. So if you want to make the most of the msq exp you definitely need to shuffle classes.

Specifically regarding approaching level 90, on my first run I had *just* hit level 89 when I started the level 89 dungeon+quests (having come up a tiny bit short and done sidequests to get over the line) and that was a perfect amount of EXP to hit 90 as I completed the last 89 quest. Since then they have announced that EXP from level 80-90 dungeons has been increased, so at some point you'll need to have a second level 89 job to switch over to for perfect use of quest EXP as you approach the level cap.

It depends on a lot of factors. If you just do MSQ, you will get just enough experience for one job, maybe slightly less than you need because some levels used to expect fates and sidequests to be done. SE has tried to remove those requirements but they might still be needed for some levels.

If you do sidequests in the latest expansion areas, you will get enough experience to level multiple jobs because this was the first MSQ designed to not require sidequests in the first place.

If you have a lot of experience buffs, such as your FC "Heat of Battle" buff, food, rings and earrings from certain locations, you might get enough experience from dungeons to outlevel the MSQ. If you do roulettes every single day, you will definitely outlevel the MSQ. If you have the Preferred World bonus "Road to 80" buff, it will double quest experience which will keep you, on average, twice the level of the MSQ or higher.

I know you don't want to be told "play your way", but switching class all the time is annoying and causes mental fatigue. It's easier to just do the MSQ on your main class even if you get to max level and don't receive anymore experience, because getting experience is easy in this game and it's increased for alt classes.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Specifically regarding approaching level 90, on my first run I had *just* hit level 89 when I started the level 89 dungeon+quests (having come up a tiny bit short and done sidequests to get over the line) and that was a perfect amount of EXP to hit 90 as I completed the last 89 quest. Since then they have announced that EXP from level 80-90 dungeons has been increased, so at some point you'll need to have a second level 89 job to switch over to for perfect use of quest EXP as you approach the level cap.

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That really depends on how you play. Back in December, I hit lvl 90 not even midway through EW on my main doing daily roulettes with FC buff and food (I always carry dirt cheap raisins for xp). I could have easily leveled 3 classes back then.

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

That really depends on how you play. Back in December, I hit lvl 90 not even midway through EW on my main doing daily roulettes with FC buff and food (I always carry dirt cheap raisins for xp). I could have easily leveled 3 classes back then.

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Yes, I'm talking about the bare minimum EXP gain from playing the MSQ and nothing else at that point. So that minimum will put you up a full level (presumably more than a full level now) and you are almost guaranteed to need a second job at 89 to soak up some EXP because even if you carefully avoid hitting 89 early, you'll still be 90 before you reach the level 90 quests.

That said, the reason I didn't quite get to 89 in time for the quests going up to 89 was that I was diverting some EXP to other jobs along the way.

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Originally Posted by MilimDragonava

So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.

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If you want efficient, you might want to consider finishing at least ARR, and unlock all possible roulettes plus the first tomestone vendor. You don't want all that potential xp and equipment to go to waste.
Back in ARR, I leveled every single class to 30 (which was the limit for free to play on those days) before actually subscribing.
Xp multipliers were less plentiful, that meant levequests, fates and hunts to supplement during longer queues.

Depending on when you pick up the third job, you could easily get three to 90. I leveled dragoon and reaper to 90 and still had tons of content left for a third, but reaper is a level 70 job, so it eats up less exp than something you'd level from 1. I hit 90 on two jobs before Endwalker even started and I was going pretty fast through it. I've still only been playing a few months. I think some people that have been playing a long time and never leveled a character up through all the expansions from the start don't really realize how much experience you get doing the entire story, honestly.

I think there's also an attitude that you just need to get everything unlocked as soon as possible because it makes a lot of the game easier when you have all the maps and can fly everywhere, plus more duties, etc, unlocked. I definitely don't think you need to skip cutscenes and stuff to get there a matter of hours earlier, but they're not wrong that shirking the main story is going to make you miss out on a lot if you're taking ages to get through it. You'll end up not being able to join your friends on treasure hunts, instances, etc, because your content is still locked. I think the idea is that focusing on one character would push you through faster, but that's not necessarily true. You could go through just as fast on multiple and not end up just flushing exp down the drain as long as you're not spending days grinding to keep up tons of side jobs.

Basically, it probably isn't efficient to try to level 4+ jobs because you'll need to put off doing story to keep them all on pace, but it's probably more efficient to level around 3 (possibly one you pick up at 60+ -- Dancer, Gunbreaker, Sage, Reaper) so that you don't hit 90 on everything with nothing left at endwalker level to pick up the experience.