As the title says pretty much, not even a week into the new servers and Raiden already has a small bot army. I can't talk about the other three servers added for European players but I'm going to assume it's the same situation.
It really threw me off at first when I encountered one. I was doing some level 30-something MSQ and a mob I was about to kill ended up in combat with another player that I never once saw around me. This happened a few times and upon targeting them, I couldn't see them. The name was complete gibberish also and looked like a face had smacked a keyboard a few times. Likewise I went into Limsa Lominsa once and saw a gibberish name TP in and then immediately fall under the map.
Is it even worth reporting them given how many exist on existing servers and the large number, must be around 100, I've seen in player search already within a few days of Raiden opening? What's even the correct way of reporting bots in this game as well? In WoW there was an easy right-click report option for players you suspected were cheating, seems like I have to manually write tickets here which seems more effort than it's worth.
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07-12-2022, 03:34 AMJohnersRaiden already has a small bot army, is it even worth reporting?
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07-12-2022, 04:05 AMWanzzo
well, worth or not, I always report them whenever I see them.
The best way to confront them is by not buying any gil from websites. They only exists to catch your money. If we don't feed them, they cease to continue.
I know they will keep coming back no matter the reports, but, at least, I do my part. :)
Never buy gil
Never forget to report bots
Never stop to talk about this. -
07-12-2022, 04:50 AMJohnersIt's just incredibly inconvenient to report someone in this game to the point in which I just don't feel it's worth it given SE's inability to moderate botting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanzzo
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07-12-2022, 04:51 AMWanzzowell, more than that is to see te server economics being disrupted for doing nothing at our side '-'Quote:
Originally Posted by Johners
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07-12-2022, 05:05 AMRhea_
All servers have those I’m afraid. Reporting is a waste of time, they are barely acted upon.
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07-12-2022, 05:07 AMSaberMaxwell
If these bots were lalafell, would you say they would be...nanomachines? (Sorry couldn't help myself carry on)
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07-12-2022, 05:23 AMJojoya
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...476b0d5b9ded85
SE posts that report every week (usually on Thursdays).
The company does take action but it's a mostly futile battle when the bots are back in action on new accounts almost immediately.
If you don't feel that it's worth your time to report them, then don't worry about it. They do have their ways of detecting bots. Player reports are probably more useful when it comes to less common types of botting activity (reporting the market bots, Diadem bots and the like). -
07-12-2022, 08:26 AMMoonliteQuote:
Originally Posted by Wanzzo
You do know SE policy is to allow them to disrupt the economy. They allow bots to grow and grow and move billions of gil before they act. I have more hope that fake/stolen CC they are probably using gets the account banned. -
07-12-2022, 09:07 AMKageTokage
I feel like lately you only tend to see the masses of low level bots on the new servers.
Established servers seem to have fallen into abusing Eureka bunnies or crafting/gathering as their go-to methods of gil farming. -
07-12-2022, 09:47 AMNekoMataMataThis. Reporting anyone for anything is such a chore in this game. You often fill out the form and then a week later get a message back asking for the same info you sent previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johners
I can't help but wonder if SE just lets the bots go anyways. The games popular enough at this point. Why should they really care? As long as they occasionally take some action they can pretend they're in charge and upholding their rules. -
07-12-2022, 10:36 AMShibi
Those bots will be on the way to Eureka. As SE ban a wave there is another almost to level to take over.
Please look forward to it. -
07-12-2022, 01:25 PMDeNada
Just report imo and hope that SE takes action against some of these bots.
If the players don't do anything, the bots would be left to run rampant without fear of reprisal and it would just kill off the playerbase as players realize that botters can cheat with impunity. -
07-12-2022, 10:31 PMSenorPatty
I just feel like SE operates the same way garbage pickers do: once a week for bots, the other week for rmt. That's why the bots pile up and don't get banned for a long time until it's that day of the week.
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07-12-2022, 11:33 PMKageTokageThat isn't terribly likely to happen in XIV because the bot presence is largely not disruptive to other players outside of controlling the marketboard and forcing scaling on the Eureka NMs.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNada
When they do actually become a major problem, SE tends to act quickly and decisively, such as when they were invading PvP, or when their numbers swelled to such extremes that people couldn't even enter the starting zones on some of the new servers.
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07-13-2022, 12:04 AMWanzzo
About the problem with reporting, I recently watched a Zepla's video about it and I made a thread on the User Interface section of the Forum.
I invite you all to check it out: Ideias to Fix the Bad Report System
It is a REALLY awful system that they never have updated since the early days of the game! It's quite a shame...
We need a better reporting system to help not only the combat against bots but against weird people in general. They should consider building a new reporting system from scratch!
I do really believe nobody here knew about what Zepla shows in her video before! (I didn't). '-'