You should be able to keep Crystalline Conflict rank rewards after changing servers

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06-19-2022, 02:05 PM
Aliyah_Rosethorn

You should be able to keep Crystalline Conflict rank rewards after changing servers

I climbed through the rank's during the new Crystalline Conflict season when it first came out and got to Crystal rank within the first month. I was happy with Crystal rank because I knew I wouldn't be able to compete for top 100. However, I recently decided to change my home world so I could join a friends FC and participate in a Ceremony of Eternal Bonding. I read that I would lose the CC rank when I transferred but the rank itself didn't really mater to me. However, I don't see a reason why I shouldn't be able to get the rewards associated for having obtained the rank so I sent in a ticket to ask if this was a feature or if there was interest for it. The support team got back to me and told me to make a post here so someone on the dev team could take a look at it and consider if it was worthwhile.
06-19-2022, 02:14 PM
AnotherPerson

Keeping Crystalline Conflict rank should be a thing, especially if Data Center Travel is implemented. If we're allowed to travel to other Data Centers to play (and eventually, party up if team queue becomes a thing), we should also be able to queue in a similar ranking through Crystalline Conflict without climbing again from the beginning as other players, no? Likewise, the rank rewards should be kept if people are transferring across Data Centers since the highest rank is already preserved.

Unless Data Center Travel prohibits PvP or access via the Duty Finder, I don't see why keeping Crystalline Conflict rank and rewards shouldn't be allowed.
06-19-2022, 02:37 PM
gotaname1

You cant even copy settings from one character to another. What could you expect? Quality of Life in a decade old game?
06-19-2022, 02:54 PM
RobynDaBank

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Originally Posted by gotaname1

You cant even copy settings from one character to another. What could you expect? Quality of Life in a decade old game?

I mean you can, but it does require delving into the game files. So technically it's possible... but yeah, not QoL.
06-19-2022, 03:19 PM
Denji

wait, it doesn't?

... bruh. tf square.
06-19-2022, 05:11 PM
gotaname1

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

I mean you can, but it does require delving into the game files. So technically it's possible... but yeah, not QoL.

We live too long to know it isnt impossible. it just requires doing and using unmentionables cuz of reasons of 'please understand we are an indy company with budget restrictions' :rolleyes:
06-19-2022, 06:10 PM
Duskane

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Originally Posted by gotaname1

You cant even copy settings from one character to another. What could you expect? Quality of Life in a decade old game?

you can just copy paste your character details lol and it'll save all your settings even your portraits.
06-19-2022, 06:18 PM
NekoMataMata

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Originally Posted by AnotherPerson

Keeping Crystalline Conflict rank should be a thing, especially if Data Center Travel is implemented. If we're allowed to travel to other Data Centers to play (and eventually, party up if team queue becomes a thing), we should also be able to queue in a similar ranking through Crystalline Conflict without climbing again from the beginning as other players, no? Likewise, the rank rewards should be kept if people are transferring across Data Centers since the highest rank is already preserved.

Unless Data Center Travel prohibits PvP or access via the Duty Finder, I don't see why keeping Crystalline Conflict rank and rewards shouldn't be allowed.

Rewards yes, but rank no.

It's not that I'm against it, but I don't really think that's how ranks work in general in any competitive mode. Different DCs are going to have slightly different skill levels that are difficult to gauge or compare for one.

But for another reason... Ranking systems tend to be like a pyramid. There's less spots the higher up you go. It's easy enough to slide a rank out of any position in the ladder, the gap should fill on its own naturally but you can't simply shove a rank into a ladder that's already full.

Anyways, I support the transferring of rewards. You earned those and those aren't a problem. Transferring rank would be a bit different though.
06-19-2022, 06:56 PM
Nanne

Imagine the last day of the season and people trying to snipe leaderboard positions by switching to a DC with lower ratings? There is a reason they reset :p
06-20-2022, 01:59 AM
gotaname1

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Originally Posted by Duskane

you can just copy paste your character details lol and it'll save all your settings even your portraits.

Is there a (visual) guide for that? It sounds highly illegal to alter game files but I'd like to know for.....scientific purposes....
06-20-2022, 03:11 AM
hagare

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Originally Posted by gotaname1

Is there a (visual) guide for that? It sounds highly illegal to alter game files but I'd like to know for.....scientific purposes....

isn't that the gear icon on the top right of the character choice screen?
06-20-2022, 03:13 AM
Imora

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Originally Posted by gotaname1

Is there a (visual) guide for that? It sounds highly illegal to alter game files but I'd like to know for.....scientific purposes....

You can upload /download your settings to/from the server, too.

Is how I got my stuff on my laptop.
06-20-2022, 04:49 AM
technole

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Originally Posted by Nanne

Imagine the last day of the season and people trying to snipe leaderboard positions by switching to a DC with lower ratings? There is a reason they reset :p

Yep, prevent leaderboard hunters, there is already enough scum they have to deal with.
06-20-2022, 04:58 AM
Denji

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Originally Posted by Nanne

Imagine the last day of the season and people trying to snipe leaderboard positions by switching to a DC with lower ratings? There is a reason they reset :p

ah yea that makes sense.

the only other solution i could think of would be to allow the transfer of rank until the last 7-14 days before its over. just enough time for others to catch up... probably.
06-20-2022, 07:44 AM
AnotherPerson

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Rewards yes, but rank no.

It's not that I'm against it, but I don't really think that's how ranks work in general in any competitive mode. Different DCs are going to have slightly different skill levels that are difficult to gauge or compare for one.

But for another reason... Ranking systems tend to be like a pyramid. There's less spots the higher up you go. It's easy enough to slide a rank out of any position in the ladder, the gap should fill on its own naturally but you can't simply shove a rank into a ladder that's already full.

Anyways, I support the transferring of rewards. You earned those and those aren't a problem. Transferring rank would be a bit different though.

I think for the basic Bronze to Crystal tier, the rewards can be easily transferred over. However, the top 100 rewards are difficult to transfer over.

If the season is still continuing, then if the said player is at Crystal tier rank and at the top 100, those positions could still change because people are still battling for them. It's difficult to judge just because the person placed top 100 that they will stay in the top 100 when transferring out of that Datacenter. If the reward is guaranteed for the top 100 positions when transferring out, it means one placement in the previous Datacenter will be locked out entirely and cannot be contested for.

The rewards are currently only for the top 100. Do you think it's fair that the rank gets transferred, but if they are in Crystal Tier, their credit resets back to 0? That way, they would still have to climb back up. Likewise, for all the previous ranks, they will keep their rank (Gold III, Diamond II, etc.) but their stars will reset back to 0. I think that's the most fair result since they will still have to battle against other players if they want to climb up in that rank.

Edit: Alternatively, prevent transfer of rank in the last 14 days -- but drop their Crystal Credit by 500 to 1000 credits if there are more than 14 days left and the said player decides to transfer so they still have to battle other players in that Datacenter when climbing back up during the season or be booted out of their original ranking.
06-20-2022, 04:24 PM
rainichan

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Originally Posted by gotaname1

Is there a (visual) guide for that? It sounds highly illegal to alter game files but I'd like to know for.....scientific purposes....

As others said, you can do that straight from your character select screen: click the icon next to your character name on the right, upload your character settings, and then you can download them on a separate machine by hitting the same icon and selecting download. Keep them updated and you won't have to worry about losing stuff. Official guide on the XIV lodestone.

The longer, more irritating way to do it isn't altering game files, just saving and replacing folders:

Documents -> My Games -> Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn -> FFXIV_CHR#

The CHR# folders are your data for your characters; the more you have the more guessing you'll need to do on which character it is, but if you copy those over and replace whatever folders are there when you install XIV on a different system, you'll have your original settings as well. Easier to use the method through the character select screen, or by using the launcher to make a FFXIVconfig.fea file to transfer over, but that method is also viable, just takes forever to figure out which character is which if you only want one character backup and not all of them.