Our PC processor chips for some time now have had multiple cores.. with variations of caches, sizes, speeds - capability kinda all over the place. My question is simple enough.. does FFXiV attempt to multi-thread anything it does? By that I mean, processor core number one is figuring out where to materialize the zap you just launched at the bad guy, and processor number two is making the video much more red than normal because your zap is a strawberry bomb, processor number three is handling the comments from your group about how you should have used the peaches flambé ray gun.. and so on. Thanks for any insight; I don't even have a clue where to look for this sort of info. B safe y'all,
Shooter
Multiple Core Processors - how many, if any, does FFXiV use?
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06-09-2022, 02:25 AMMaxcrafterMultiple Core Processors - how many, if any, does FFXiV use?
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06-09-2022, 02:31 AMLarirawiel
The game scales up to 4 cores very well. More than 4 cores are not usefull anymore. Fast RAM gives also a nice speed up. I get 10% more performance when i enable DOCP/XMP.
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06-09-2022, 10:40 AMTristanX
I can confirm FF14 is extremely sensitive to RAM speed and timings. Difference is night and day when I pump the RAM and timings on my Samsung B-die chips.
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06-09-2022, 03:08 PMEnlial
Tested with the benchmark (YMMV)
My setup: 6/12 core i7 6800k cpu, rtx 3090 gpu, 24gb ram. Benchmark set to: 1440p windowed, max settings, gsync disabled.
Scores:
16433 - 12 cores, All bios settings at default
16699 - 6 cores (hyper-threading disabled in bios)
15321 - 4 cores (2 cores disabled in bios)
11803 - 2 cores (4 cores disabled in bios)
So no difference at all between 12 and 6 cores, and only a fairly mild one between 4 and 6 (possibly due to the system being able to offload background processes).
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06-09-2022, 05:34 PMTristanX
My setup is Core i9-12900K, G.Skill TridentZ Neo 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14 (Samsung B-die), RTX 3080 Ti. RAM settings score
3200mhz 14-14-14-34 = 27896 , min 91, average 191.8 FPS
4000mhz 16-16-16-36 = 29581 , min 103, average 199.35 FPS -
06-09-2022, 05:38 PMSilverbaneWould you mind giving more details on your resolution and quality setting?Quote:
Originally Posted by TristanX
I'm going to put together two new systems this summer for playing FFXIV on 32" 4K monitors at 144 FPS+ with max bling, and I'd like to make sure the systems have enough GPU and CPU horsepower to get the job done.
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06-09-2022, 05:40 PMTristanXI'm running 2560x1440 Full Screen at Maximum. My Core i9-12900K also got OCTVB +2 enabled from my Asus ROG Strix Z690-A D4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverbane
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06-09-2022, 05:49 PMLarirawielAnd i guess, this is the reason why so many people have stability problems only with this game. Their RAM or the RAM-MoBo-connection is faulty or the have too sharp RAM timings and the game crashes randomly. Other applications do not crash because they do not strain the RAM subsystem so much like FF14.Quote:
Originally Posted by TristanX
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06-09-2022, 05:58 PMTristanXI gave my RAM unrealistic stress after tuning. Rock stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larirawiel
Many things can go wrong if someone encountered stability issues. Not only the RAM. -
06-09-2022, 06:23 PMEnlialWow haha yeah I def need to upgrade the rest of my system. Holding out for now in the hope that alder lake-x is real. Figured my setup would be a good test with regard to OP's question since Im probably on the extreme end of CPU bottlenecking lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by TristanX
Agree that xiv does seem to benefit a lot from memory overclocking, like you all said. -
06-09-2022, 06:31 PMSilverbaneThanks. Based on your data on mem speed, I'll probably go with DDR5 instead of DDR4.Quote:
Originally Posted by TristanX
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06-09-2022, 06:45 PMLarirawielDDR5 will be very expensive in the beginning. And CPUs with huge caches can propably mitigate a little bit slower memory. The Ryzen 5800 X3D is such a CPU. But i do not know how well FF14 performs on that CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverbane
And seriously, when the game runs with 100 fps minimum framerate, it is surely fast enough. :)
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06-09-2022, 06:46 PMTristanXDDR5 doesn't give much performance boost due to high latency. Pricing is high as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverbane
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/d...mance-scaling/
I would think it needs at least DDR5-6400 CL32 to get there. There is DDR5-8400 coming as well.
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06-09-2022, 07:18 PMDagget
Best CPU for FFXIV seems to be the AMD Ryzen 5800X3D - game loves the extra L3 cache
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06-09-2022, 07:25 PMLarirawiel
It seems, that Final Fantasy 14 performs extremly good with the AMD Ryzen 5800 X3D:
https://www.club386.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-review/
But unfortunately, it is also an indication, that the game is not optimized very well. Good optimized engines will try to put all or most of their "hot code" into the CPU cache. Either the "hot code" of the FF14 engine is really huge, so it does not fit into the cache of most CPUs. Or they did not implement such optimizations.
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06-09-2022, 09:22 PMTristanXQuote:
Originally Posted by Dagget
CPU becomes less dependant when monitor resolution is higher. People with high end rigs most likely will have 1440p or 4k. The bottleneck shifts to the graphic card more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larirawiel
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06-09-2022, 10:06 PMDagget
Either way, the 5800X3D appears to be the best CPU for the game, whether its contribution is lessened or not by the load shifting to the GPU. No Intel or other AMD processor appears able to match it.
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