I think I lost the lottery, but not sure

Can anyone confirm how you can tell if you won the lottery for those who took the refund due to the "ticket 0" bug?

I assume I lost since when I look under the estate window it just says that the results phase is happening, but I have no additional information in there. With how poorly SE messed this new system up I am hoping for confirmation that no info in the results line = loss and not that they screwed up further and my win/loss was not restored correctly.

Thanks!

If you go to the placard and it doesn't say you won and give you the option to claim the plot, you lost. When I checked this morning with my main, the placard said participant #2 (my alt) won. Since I'd already taken the refund there was nothing more. When I clicked it on my alt it told me I'd won and gave me the option to claim the plot.

The problem is that I do not recall exactly which ward I was in when I bid and had already moved on, with refund, before I found out that SE borked the lottery. I have visited a lot of plots that are still unclaimed (that looked familiar to me) with no luck, but was hoping there was something a little more definitive or explanatory.

Did you by chance check the interface to show the results (CTRL U)? Click on Estate, and at the top you can click on the lottery entry. It tells you which one you bid on. However, I don't know if that information is still there or not, and it was cleared out while we waited for the patch today. It may be there for this cycle.

Yeah, I checked that and when I click on it nothing happens. I checked online before posting this and saw some "walkthroughs" that showed a notepad icon at the far right and when you click on the lottery line under estate another window would pop up showing details of the plot.

Unfortunately I see no notepad icon nor details about what I bid on. I am going to assume (delude myself) that I just lost so there are no details and try not to think about how SE quite possibly messed up the restoration as I have seen some posts about winners getting messages that they can't claim their plot until "tomorrow".

Thanks for trying to help though :)

I would keep looking if I were you. The 'tomorrow' notice is in fact just a textual error they confirmed on their Twitter feed. What Yoshi-P stated in his follow-up is accurate.

If anything, I would at least contact support, as they might be able to tell you if you cannot locate it.

Go to the Duty Menu and Timers at the bottom. There should be two tabs there one is Individual and the other Estate. Click on the Estate tab it should show the information at least I would hope so. I wasn't hit with a zero bug so I can't personally verify that.

Yeah, that's the 1st place I checked. I took Greyhawks advice and put in a support ticket so hopefully I can get an accurate answer one way or the other. Thanks though.

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Originally Posted by Wildmane

Yeah, that's the 1st place I checked. I took Greyhawks advice and put in a support ticket so hopefully I can get an accurate answer one way or the other. Thanks though.

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Collecting the refund likely removed the plot information from your timers. Unless you thought to take a screenshot when you placed your entry or collected your refund, I can't think of any other way to verify what plot you had selected.

Hopefully the GMs will be able to help you out.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Collecting the refund likely removed the plot information from your timers.

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Yeah, this seems to be what happened. There was a similar post up on the ffxiv reddit. Anyone that took the refund and doesn't remember the location is going to have to go plot by plot checking. Just remember 1-18 were fc only and 19-24 are personal so you don't have to check all 24 wards.

Yeah, and every day you wait more people who won and now can do so will have claimed their plots leaving less of them open to check. Afterall, you dont need to check the lots that other people were able to build on - you know you didnt win any of those. I havent looked on my server(i didnt want to move my personal to ishgard, so ive been avoiding), but i would hazard a guess that the number still waiting to be claimed is already getting frightfully low.

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

If you go to the placard and it doesn't say you won and give you the option to claim the plot, you lost. When I checked this morning with my main, the placard said participant #2 (my alt) won. Since I'd already taken the refund there was nothing more. When I clicked it on my alt it told me I'd won and gave me the option to claim the plot.

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So you used two characters to increase the odds? Shameful.

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Originally Posted by Wildmane

The problem is that I do not recall exactly which ward I was in when I bid and had already moved on, with refund, before I found out that SE borked the lottery. I have visited a lot of plots that are still unclaimed (that looked familiar to me) with no luck, but was hoping there was something a little more definitive or explanatory.

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If you win, the results period thing in your timer is selectable and it tells you your lottery ticket. Next time, I'd make sure to note the ward you were in.

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Originally Posted by not_ya_wify

If you win, the results period thing in your timer is selectable and it tells you your lottery ticket. Next time, I'd make sure to note the ward you were in.

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That data has already been refreshed apparently, so it's not there, as we had already suggested this and there is no data.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

So you used two characters to increase the odds? Shameful.

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Yes, I did use both in hopes of increasing the odds of winning the plot. They're both legitimate, level 90 characters that have been around well before Empyreum was opened and I play both frequently. Both bid on the same plot so as to not potentially take the opportunity from another player by me bidding on multiple plots. My server's relatively low population so there was a real chance that I'd win both if I had. I was the only one to bid on the plot so even if only my main bid, I still would have won it. If other players decided not to place a bid, that's on them, not me.

How is this at all shameful?

Make a day of it go around each ward (FC or private) and just walk around the area and check EVERY board with an empty plot. it may take time but will be worth it when you get your plot. Honestly I've even seen houses on my own server that clearly had a winner that have yet to be claimed

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

How is this at all shameful?

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Because essentialy you still potentialy made a competing bid worth less. 50% or 33% is still quite a big diffirence. Being on a relatively empty data center doesnt change a lot here.

But also, there was a 25% chance of you not getting a plot if you spreaded them out (and both had 1 extra contender). While in this case it would have been 33%. So to me that is fair enough. At least both characters are actively used instead of just existing for extra bidding options.

Personaly i think they should have restricted it to 1 bid per account max. And on that, if you win, any of those characters can decide to claim the plot (for FCs this would need an diffirent algoritm though).