New Ultimate Idea: Light Wardens Ultimate

Here me out!

From the way Dragons Song Reprise was handled with having multiple different bosses linked to Nidhogg's eyes as the enemies you have to beat one after the other...Why not do the same thing with the Light Wardens and the Warrior of Light (the one from the cinematic trailers and offical art with the Scions)?

I was thinking today what it would be like if the Warrior of Light had succumbed to the collective energy of Light Wardens they held inside them. What kind of Sin Eater would they have become with their collective powers combined with the WoL?

Wouldn't it be cool if you got to fight every single Light Warden on one after the other and then faced off against the Warrior of Light himself before he suddenly succumbs to the collective Light Warden's light upon his defeat and transforms into this ultimate Sin Eater that would have even Emet Selch, Elidibus and Eden/Midus shaking in their boots?

Thoughts? :3

It comes down to the details, but I can certainly imagine details by which that'd be a pretty awesome fight, sure.

Maybe after the Stormblood ultimates.

I'm pretty certain SE won't go this route and would probably just end up doing a 'Hades Ultimate' trial instead as it's easier, given three of the Lightwardens were just dungeon bosses with little more than flavour text for background lore (Phillia had an excuse plot of once being an elf who lived in Holminster and thus attacked his former home out of some long-ago grudge, and Eros and Storge I don't think even had that, they were just... there), so there is little story reason for them.

Also, the thought experiment of imagining what the WoL would have become had they succumbed to the corrupted Light and became a Lightwarden themself is... rather rendundant given there would have been no one left powerful enough to take them on, and, they would have ended up destroyed anyway once the First was successfully rejoined to the Source in an alternate Eight Calamity as Emet planned, so, it's a bit of a moot point really.

I kinda hope they mix up the pattern slightly. Stormblood would benefit a lot by combining the MSQ and Raid content into one ultimate, by having a Shinryu vs. Omega plot. This would free up room for the 2nd 'SB' Ultimate to tackle something a bit different, maybe it could be Four Lords or Ivalice related.

When they then get to ShB content, I agree that just the standard MSQ boss (Hades) probably wouldn't be enough on it's own. It could be that the retelling is Emet throwing all of the lightwardens at us at once, instead of use beating them one at a time. Then the Eden raids could give us a true Ultimecia stand off.

This is assuming we'll get another ultimate after the latest fiasco. Watching people cheat their way through your hardest content has to sour the idea of doing that again.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

This is assuming we'll get another ultimate after the latest fiasco. Watching people cheat their way through your hardest content has to sour the idea of doing that again.

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What?

That has nothing to do whether or not they would implement an Ultimate. If we didn't have Ultimates, people would do the same for Savage and EX clears.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

What?

That has nothing to do whether or not they would implement an Ultimate. If we didn't have Ultimates, people would do the same for Savage and EX clears.

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exactly. why should they waste their time on another ultimate?

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

exactly. why should they waste their time on another ultimate?

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they already confirmed Ultimate raid #5 for 6.3.

I'd kind of like a Four Lords ultimate if it concludes with us actually getting to fight Koryu instead of it being dealt with in a cutscene.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Here me out!

From the way Dragons Song Reprise was handled with having multiple different bosses linked to Nidhogg's eyes as the enemies you have to beat one after the other...Why not do the same thing with the Light Wardens and the Warrior of Light (the one from the cinematic trailers and offical art with the Scions)?

I was thinking today what it would be like if the Warrior of Light had succumbed to the collective energy of Light Wardens they held inside them. What kind of Sin Eater would they have become with their collective powers combined with the WoL?

Wouldn't it be cool if you got to fight every single Light Warden on one after the other and then faced off against the Warrior of Light himself before he suddenly succumbs to the collective Light Warden's light upon his defeat and transforms into this ultimate Sin Eater that would have even Emet Selch, Elidibus and Eden/Midus shaking in their boots?

Thoughts? :3

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Seems cool, but it will probably never happen. If the previous ultimates are anything to go by, it would be something like fighting the lightwardens and then the unsundered ascians at the same time.
What I would like to see is ultimates based on other content that aren't MSQ or the 8-man raids, like a Warring Triad or Four Lords Ultimate, hell, maybe even a Crystal Tower Ultimate.
But it doesn't seem like it's going to be the case and the 6.3 ultimate is most likely Omega, but eh, it wouldn't be the first time they subvert my expectations in terms of what content I expect.

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Originally Posted by weebtext

Maybe after the Stormblood ultimates.

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Maybe they'll finally give us that climactic final battle that the Four Lords Plotline blue balled us on.

i don't think anything can be written off for being 'side content' or 'dungeon content' anymore
so that being said and (reiterating some of the stuff in thread already and some stuff I've heard bandied about on the internet)
some things I think would be neat:

Warring Triad with Kefka

Four Lords with Koryu (mentioned above)

Hildibrand Ultimate (ultros typhon greg/yojimbo battle plus maybe some other special guests like siegfried [and whatever other hildebrand stuff they reveal in the upcoming sidequests])

Omicron Ultimate (utilizing Omega content plus stuff revealed about the Omicron from EW [plus whatever other omega stuff they reveal in upcoming sidequests])
- like Chi could show up in an Omicron Ultimate for example

WEAPONs ultimate (with an actual sapphire battle)
-actually this off the cuff but what if there's a G-Warrior mech available and the skills available to use depend on Role of the player piloting G-Warrior So in certain phases a pilot swap might be necessary to use G-Warrior Tank or Healing abilities (plus we get dank 'get in the robot _____" memes)

And the OP idea though I would augment it a bit cuz I'd rather see a Light Warden Rush culminate with a super powerful Innocence OR incorporate them into an Eden Ultimate (plus I'm not actually sure the WoL is a 'light warden' persay The WoL always impressed me as being more of a standard Primal)

Prefer to do the Kami of Othard first

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'd kind of like a Four Lords ultimate if it concludes with us actually getting to fight Koryu instead of it being dealt with in a cutscene.

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I'd love to see that, too! Kory being sealed away again instead of us actually dealing with him was a but disappointing.

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Originally Posted by FatalFatalis

Seems cool, but it will probably never happen. If the previous ultimates are anything to go by, it would be something like fighting the lightwardens and then the unsundered ascians at the same time.
What I would like to see is ultimates based on other content that aren't MSQ or the 8-man raids, like a Warring Triad or Four Lords Ultimate, hell, maybe even a Crystal Tower Ultimate.
But it doesn't seem like it's going to be the case and the 6.3 ultimate is most likely Omega, but eh, it wouldn't be the first time they subvert my expectations in terms of what content I expect.

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I wonder what the fight would look like with the Light Wardens and Ascians being fought after one after another or a few of them at once. Lol, that's making me so curious! Maybe Emet-Selch would absorb the Lightwardens and become this ultimate Dark/Light being that an agglomeration of his final form and a mixture of the Lightwardens. :D

A Crystal Tower Ultimate would be awesome! Especially with the way it's been treated as the playerbase punching bag, it'd be nice if it was given an Ultimate to pay us players back, lol!

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'd kind of like a Four Lords ultimate if it concludes with us actually getting to fight Koryu instead of it being dealt with in a cutscene.

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That would be great, sadly they kinda screwed themselves over when they used the ARR final mount as the model for Koryu.

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Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO

That would be great, sadly they kinda screwed themselves over when they used the ARR final mount as the model for Koryu.

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But the 4 lords had Humanoid forms so it stands to reason that a Human form of Koryu would be possible as the fight.

Next one has gotta be Omega Ultimate right? The title should be Interdimensional Legend

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'd kind of like a Four Lords ultimate if it concludes with us actually getting to fight Koryu instead of it being dealt with in a cutscene.

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Yeah, I was pissed off at that. Got me all hyped for nothing.

Based on the pattern so far, the next two Ultimates would be Omega (ft. Exdeath and Kefka) and Shinryu (ft. Tsukuyomi).

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Based on the pattern so far, the next two Ultimates would be Omega (ft. Exdeath and Kefka) and Shinryu (ft. Tsukuyomi).

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This is why I hope they break the pattern.

Shinryu and Omega deserve to have a combined ultimate, likely with Omega using Shinryu to improve it's combat capabilities, then Zenos taking over Omega somehow.
Meanwhile Kefka should be paired with the Warring Triad in some way.