I've a LS member who seems to be of the mind that critical hit rate has suffered a noticeable nerf in the last patch, can anyone confirm this? I don't trust a single source.
Crit-rate nerf?
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05-25-2012, 03:33 AMHyristCrit-rate nerf?
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05-25-2012, 04:10 AMAntaniasRates were just fine when I was soloing company leves last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
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05-25-2012, 04:15 AMZetsumei_Tsunarashi12345678910Quote:
The algorithm for calculating the following parameters has been revised:
Critical Hit Rating / Critical Hit Attack Power / Magic Critical Hit Rating
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05-25-2012, 04:52 AMMajidah
meh not like having a crit build was any good to begin with, not with the % cap for it to parser.
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05-25-2012, 04:54 AMZyph
Yeah if anything I think they were increased, what was he fighting?
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05-25-2012, 04:57 AMNoctisUmbra
All of those stats regarding criticals, save for magic critical hit potency, were buffed.
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05-25-2012, 05:04 AMHyrist
He's claiming that specifically, critical hit rate was nerfed, not buffed. He's not made mention to me as far as critical hit potency.
His tests were focused around the 54 range, and I'm looking for parses to counter his (he was saying when I had to leave for work that his crit was was down to about 9% on 54-55 level range.) I'm wanting to see evidence to the contrary, or confirmation that that is the correct rate. -
05-25-2012, 05:21 AMTechnyze
Im not sure Crit Atk Power has been buffed, I think it may have been decreased with increase of crit rate. The quote above just states that the algorithms for those stats have be revised. Which implys no increase or decrease. However in the patch notes below that line it is stated that you will see an increase in crit rate on higher level mobs. Therefore I would not say that Crit Atk power received an increase, the jury is still out on that one.
Sort of off topic, I know. But food for thought. Furthermore, I haven't spent anytime looking at crit rates on parses yet, so I cannot say wheter or not it actually did receive an increase. -
05-25-2012, 05:42 AMMolly_Millions
That's because the poster left out this critical piece of info (no pun intended):
Based on that, it looks like they changed the way the algorithm works in relation to the difference in your level vs the mobs level.Quote:
The algorithm for calculating the following parameters has been revised:
Critical Hit Rating / Critical Hit Attack Power / Magic Critical Hit Rating
* Players will find the impact of these parameters more pronounced when facing higher-level enemies.
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05-25-2012, 05:49 AMHyristThe wording in that is vague at best, and that's the problem. If I were to take everything I've been hearing from both sides adequately, that would mean they made the base crit rate/damage weaker, but the gear more effective. But I would like to have confirmation of that theory, and sadly I have no parses of my own to compare against pre-patch. So even if I were to start researching myself, I'd have no basis to work from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly_Millions
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05-25-2012, 06:03 AMMolly_MillionsAbsolutely, without testing crit rate/dmg before and after the hotfix, we're splitting hairs based on wording.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
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05-25-2012, 06:16 AMAltanas
Light the Kaeko signal!
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05-25-2012, 06:29 AMKoujiGeki
http://youtu.be/i6LGJ7evrAg?t=1m17s ^^^^^^ DOIN IT!!!
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05-25-2012, 08:45 AMMariyaShidouHe's using WAR's Steel Cyclone to test crit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
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05-25-2012, 09:21 AMNoctisUmbra
There's no issue with the wording. Those stats, like most others, were severely gimped by difference in level to the point that they did next to nothing against high level monsters. The wording clearly states the algorithms were changes so that their impact is more pronounced against high level monsters. Ergo, they are buffed.
That being said, crit rate like anything based on probability requires thousand upon thousands of trials to allow the probability to present itself.