Yoshi-P acknowledges "many mistakes" were made in 6.1

Today SE made a post about third party add-on tools (https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5122b8b8d6ec3b) and usage. At the very bottom, Yoshi-P state states the following:

"Thanks to our devoted Warriors of Light, FINAL FANTASY XIV has grown into a titan among games. This means that it is now home to players from all walks of life─and not just longtime FFXIV fans, but those who have recently come to join us from myriad other game communities as well. Many more eyes are now on FFXIV, and posting about it garners a great deal of attention, which has changed how information is shared online and spreads throughout the playerbase.

With this in mind, I would like to encourage the development of a strong FFXIV community by continuing to provide commentary as I have today. Truly, I cannot apologize enough for the many mistakes we made in 6.1, and the resulting disappointment in such a major patch.

Nevertheless, we intend to forge ahead so that FFXIV may continue to bring joy to as many players as possible, and we hope you will stay with us on this journey!"

Not to have an iota of Hopium here (or maybe it's just Copium) but maybe . . . just maybe the Samurai changes fall into this category of disappointment and will be addressed.

Only time will tell but it is interesting that he took a moment to call this out within a message about plugin usage.

I think he’s talking about the leaks of dragonsong and the abuse of addons in ultimate. But hey we can hope D:

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Originally Posted by KurenXIV

Today SE made a post about third party add-on tools (https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5122b8b8d6ec3b) and usage. At the very bottom, Yoshi-P state states the following:

"Thanks to our devoted Warriors of Light, FINAL FANTASY XIV has grown into a titan among games. This means that it is now home to players from all walks of life─and not just longtime FFXIV fans, but those who have recently come to join us from myriad other game communities as well. Many more eyes are now on FFXIV, and posting about it garners a great deal of attention, which has changed how information is shared online and spreads throughout the playerbase.

With this in mind, I would like to encourage the development of a strong FFXIV community by continuing to provide commentary as I have today. Truly, I cannot apologize enough for the many mistakes we made in 6.1, and the resulting disappointment in such a major patch.

Nevertheless, we intend to forge ahead so that FFXIV may continue to bring joy to as many players as possible, and we hope you will stay with us on this journey!"

Not to have an iota of Hopium here (or maybe it's just Copium) but maybe . . . just maybe the Samurai changes fall into this category of disappointment and will be addressed.

Only time will tell but it is interesting that he took a moment to call this out within a message about plugin usage.

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He also said not to take any individual excerpt from the statement out of context by doing what you just did.

He's only addressing 3rd party tools and ultimate leaks.

While I would like for them to be acknowledging the amount of pushback about SAM, I think something like that will be addressed clear cut or not at all.

Yeah, samurai isn't likely viewed as a "mistake". Wish it was, but realistically, the timing comes out when people are completing Dragonsong War.

That being said, they really should stop treating us like a QA team and actually use their QA team to test shit.

Probably just in regards of the leaks and the Ishgard Housing crisis unfortunately

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Originally Posted by DreadfullyAwful

Probably just in regards of the leaks and the Ishgard Housing crisis unfortunately

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Yeah it's about this.

SAM problems doesn't exist for him

Forgetting that arrays start with 0's is a problem, forgetting that you might want to hide files for ultimate before release is a problem but killing class is ok

One can only hope. :/

The post does not seem to refer to anything other than third party tools, and the "mistakes" might refer to the leak of some yet-to-be-seen phase that could be purportedly ruining everyone's experience. It does not seem to be anything other than yet another pointless "I'm so sorry" post from Naoki Yoshida, as opposed to actually admitting they completely ruined two jobs because of their ineptitude.

I think they are talking 3rd party tools more than the sam changes tbh.

So skimmed and crunched down I read

• Third party software and tools
• Usage of them to gain advantages
• Hacks and Cheating think PvP exploit
• Housing Lottery issues
• World Race regulated or by Community
• Data Mining and Leaks

Aka: Nothing about addressing any issues regarding Job design/change fuckups. Admitting mistakes that affects our gameplay? I mean great? Though nothing about acknowledging anything regarding " DPS feedback ". Sounds like another Week/Weekend day.

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Originally Posted by Stasya

Yeah it's about this.

SAM problems doesn't exist for him

Forgetting that arrays start with 0's is a problem, forgetting that you might want to hide files for ultimate before release is a problem but killing class is ok

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A man can dream....

I know you SAMs are trying to look for any speck of hope, but I wouldn't look too hard into what Yoshida said. In the proper context he was discussing 3rd Party Tools and the whole World First debacle currently setting the General Forum on fire.

Honestly, it sounds like deflection.
"The community is pissed, we should do something! Oh I know, let's complain about third party tools. That way, between this and the housing issue we can ignore any DPS feedback."

Let's face it, the devs were never interested in feedback in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

Let's face it, the devs were never interested in feedback in the first place.

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Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. The quieter we get the more they can assume we like the change which we definitely do not.

I'm still hoping for an actual statement or something about SAM and job design. I want an actual answer or a reversion. Nothing vague and easy to debunk.

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

So skimmed and crunched down I read

• Third party software and tools
• Usage of them to gain advantages
• Hacks and Cheating think PvP exploit
• Housing Lottery issues
• World Race regulated or by Community
• Data Mining and Leaks

Aka: Nothing about addressing any issues regarding Job design/change fuckups. Admitting mistakes that affects our gameplay? I mean great? Though nothing about acknowledging anything regarding " DPS feedback ". Sounds like another Week/Weekend day.

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Yes. As much as I would like to hope that, Removing Kaiten, Putting Ninja's party damage buff on mug, Nerfing Expedient (and then shoving scholars in a locker for being nerds), and other changes were viewed as "mistakes". I don't think that's what he is adressing.

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

So skimmed and crunched down I read

• Third party software and tools
• Usage of them to gain advantages
• Hacks and Cheating think PvP exploit
• Housing Lottery issues
• World Race regulated or by Community
• Data Mining and Leaks

Aka: Nothing about addressing any issues regarding Job design/change fuckups. Admitting mistakes that affects our gameplay? I mean great? Though nothing about acknowledging anything regarding " DPS feedback ". Sounds like another Week/Weekend day.

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yep and you and i will never see anything about any job feedback whatsoever cause they ignore every kind of feedback no matter what (even if they made such horrible horrible mistakes).
look at the healer community, DK community, mch community and now sam community:

0 potency adjustments made check,
removing skills ,some for no reason, without compensating for such skills check,
have gameplay and responsiveness issues go through an entire expansion without even acknowledgement check and check.

oh and lets not forget Yoshi now famous line : if you don't find your job exciting go play ultimate, so yea.....enjoy.

:(

Yet another housing announcement and still zilch on peoples' grievances with their job design. I stand by my conclusion that they don't actually care about feedback and were just hoping to placate folks into compliance.

I'm still waiting on the refund for my SAM gear tomestone deposit.

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Originally Posted by YukiB

I'm still waiting on the refund for my SAM gear tomestone deposit.

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I used tomes mostly for my tank and bought gear off the market board for SAM. Not in anticipation of this, but because I was undergeared for pandaemonium when it first dropped and friends wanted me to join.

But boy am I glad I did. I only spent a few 100-200k for most of my set.

I wish Tomestones weren't so limited for so long, but on one hand it makes sense. On the other, having the ability to refund it sounds like a huge QoL

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Originally Posted by xAFROx

I wish Tomestones weren't so limited for so long, but on one hand it makes sense. On the other, having the ability to refund it sounds like a huge QoL

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If they want to drip-feed Astronomy to pace power gains at the start of the xpac, ok, sure, but it reeeally sucks for people who play multiple jobs/roles.

Here's an idea: Instead of buying items with Astronomy, treat it as an unlock, or as some games would coin it, "research", so instead of buying a helm, you spend the Astronomy to unlock/research Radiant helms and can then buy as many as you want for whatever jobs using Aphorism.

This would maintain the timegating but enable players to gear up multiple jobs, which would be nice in general, but especially just in case someone's main job gets butchered to the point of being unenjoyable.

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Originally Posted by cjbeagle

If they want to drip-feed Astronomy to pace power gains at the start of the xpac, ok, sure, but it reeeally sucks for people who play multiple jobs/roles.

Here's an idea: Instead of buying items with Astronomy, treat it as an unlock, or as some games would coin it, "research", so instead of buying a helm, you spend the Astronomy to unlock/research Radiant helms and can then buy as many as you want for whatever jobs using Aphorism.

This would maintain the timegating but enable players to gear up multiple jobs, which would be nice in general, but especially just in case someone's main job gets butchered to the point of being unenjoyable.

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An interesting take, don't know how they'd do that, though. Sounds too convenient for the players.