Why are pvp portraits so 'buggy'?

Why do I have to re-set the portrait literally every time I play pvp or else I risk having the default portrait that isn't even in my portrait collection anymore?

Am I doing something wrong?

I set the portrait to my gear set even and it seems to have done nothing. The portrait just doesn't work unless I click 'use as instant portrait' every time I change so much as a ring on my gear.

Admittedly, a very minor issue, but boy is it annoying me.

Well the portrait system is tied to the adventurer plates and it's in beta right now. Not everything is going to work properly.

I have the same complaint as you by the way

c'mon you can't expect a small company like square to actually test something before releasing.

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Originally Posted by Denji

c'mon you can't expect a small company like square to actually test something before releasing.

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It's in Beta they are testing it.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

It's in Beta they are testing it.

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before releasing.

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Originally Posted by Denji

before releasing.

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They explained they were releasing it early to test it with the community. Pay attention.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

They explained they were releasing it early to test it with the community. Pay attention.

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I don't need to; I already know what's going on.
They're offloading QA off onto their users to save on money.

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Originally Posted by Denji

I don't need to; I already know what's going on.
They're offloading Q&A off onto their users to save on money.

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Of course you can put your spin on it. I think most of us who follow your post history here understand. I think really they should simply run all their development decisions by you first to be sure they meet with your approval.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Of course you can put your spin on it. I think most of us who follow your post history here understand. I think really they should simply run all their development decisions by you first to be sure they meet with your approval.

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There is no spin.

They released a beta of something to the public instead of testing it themselves. There is no other reason to do this.

I agree with Denji. Wonder if square even has quality control anymore.

Guess I'll just hope for a fix, glad it's not just me doing something wrong.

LMAO, so if they stamp everything from now on "beta" it's fine and they don't even have to run basic tests?

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Originally Posted by Balmung_Griffin

LMAO, so if they stamp everything from now on "beta" it's fine and they don't even have to run basic tests?

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PS3 limitations. Please understand.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Of course you can put your spin on it. I think most of us who follow your post history here understand. I think really they should simply run all their development decisions by you first to be sure they meet with your approval.

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We ain't here to test their game.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

We ain't here to test their game.

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With how things have looked for them recently, apparently we are. lol Sounds like something Activision-Blizzard would do...

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Why do I have to re-set the portrait literally every time I play pvp or else I risk having the default portrait that isn't even in my portrait collection anymore?

Am I doing something wrong?

I set the portrait to my gear set even and it seems to have done nothing. The portrait just doesn't work unless I click 'use as instant portrait' every time I change so much as a ring on my gear.

Admittedly, a very minor issue, but boy is it annoying me.

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I have a feedback thread for the portrait system running here:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...raits-feedback

And yeah, going through a lot of the same frustrations. I assume they've gone into the mindset that – with the exception of your adventurer plate – your portrait is intended to illustrate what your character looks like right now and consequently the system is geared around going back to the default portrait if you've changed anything. Perhaps it's meant to be a safeguard in case the thing you change is your weapon and the new pose doesn't suit it.

Unfortunately all it does in practice is get really annoying that your portrait came unstuck because you changed your earrings.

You can link a portrait to a gearset and it will automatically be set as the instant portrait when equipped, but again the connection is tenuous. Updating the gearset removes the link. Equipping the gearset when one of the pieces has a different glamour on it removes the link. Changing your equipment after equipping the set still resets your current portrait to the default.

I'm wondering if the issue has something to do with "shared" gear sets

On my alts I only level'd (or am in the process of leveling) one job per role

On my main I have everything at 90

Alts aren't having any issue with plates not working properly when I switch between their jobs at 90

The plates on my main always have issues when swapping between jobs
I even tried editing the portrait slightly before reapplying the portrait as the instance plate and relinking the gear set and it still has the little triangle error after swapping to another job and immediately swapping back to the job associated with the plate

Funnily enough how do we even know this is a bug? How do we know it's something that ISNT suppose to happen by design? Wait shoot...I forgot this is the official forum where folks will complain about anything and paint SE as one of the worst out there. My bad

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Originally Posted by Denji

They released a beta of something to the public instead of testing it themselves. There is no other reason to do this.

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The entire point of a public beta is to get real world data on how actual users interact with the system. No amount of internal testing will ever tell you that.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Funnily enough how do we even know this is a bug? How do we know it's something that ISNT suppose to happen by design? Wait shoot...I forgot this is the official forum where folks will complain about anything and paint SE as one of the worst out there. My bad

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I'm not seeing anyone (of those actually discussing the portrait system) attacking SE, just questioning the specific system which is indeed buggy and does some impractical and annoying things – but is also in beta form and so needs that feedback given.

From what I've noticed, literally any change to your gear will "invalidate" the portrait meaning it has to be applied again as the instant portrait and it may also drop the link to gear sets.
If toggle showing your helmet or weapon, or if you change or glam any piece of your gear, it makes you re-apply the portrait and re-link it.

Your PvP Instant Portrait has to be exactly what your character looks like at that point in time to work.

Only thing that stays with any form of consistancy is your Adventurer Plate

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

The entire point of a public beta is to get real world data on how actual users interact with the system. No amount of internal testing will ever tell you that.

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wow has servers specifically meant to test things on the public before moving it to the actual public. don't give me that.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I have a feedback thread for the portrait system running here:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...raits-feedback

And yeah, going through a lot of the same frustrations. I assume they've gone into the mindset that – with the exception of your adventurer plate – your portrait is intended to illustrate what your character looks like right now and consequently the system is geared around going back to the default portrait if you've changed anything. Perhaps it's meant to be a safeguard in case the thing you change is your weapon and the new pose doesn't suit it.

Unfortunately all it does in practice is get really annoying that your portrait came unstuck because you changed your earrings.

You can link a portrait to a gearset and it will automatically be set as the instant portrait when equipped, but again the connection is tenuous. Updating the gearset removes the link. Equipping the gearset when one of the pieces has a different glamour on it removes the link. Changing your equipment after equipping the set still resets your current portrait to the default.

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Good post. Don't have much to add, but thank you, that was insightful.