PVP White Mage

How do you guys feel about it.

To me it's easily the best job in PVP now after Red Mage got nerfed because of how fast its LB recharges, and having CC that you can't do anything about via purify that wasn't touched.

Considering how gutted and broken pvp has been since 6.1 released, WHM is the only job I've been able to get any consistent enjoyment out of. I wouldn't say it's the "best" because there's other jobs with just as much cc and better survivability, but it seems like one of the easier ones to get into simplicity-wise.

PvP WHM makes me angry in ways I never thought possible. That is how I feel about it. Praying for a nerf at this point.

I never thought I'd ever hate an ability the way I hate Miracle of Nature, but here we are and my rage is seething.

I don't like thing.

Let us Purify the Poly ffs.

Personally, WHM will forever be branded for me as Babies first Healer, be it PvP or PvE. No matter how good a WHM gets, i would never be able to take it seriously, simply because most of them just ride on easy street and prefer dying than to stress themselves out in order to struggle to survive (at least, thats the impression they give me when i am allied to a WHM in CC).

AST is overall stronger at least in crystal matches :p

It's my default class, in both PvE and PvP. The majority of my CC matches were on WHM. In PvP I've been playing more DPS lately though, just for some variety mostly. I really don't think WHM is the most problematic class to play against really either.

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Originally Posted by Nanne

AST is overall stronger at least in crystal matches :p

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Disagreed, I still see more white mages in crystal

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

Disagreed, I still see more white mages in crystal

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And that doesn't have much to do with what I said :p They are harder to play and they have higher potential with really good teams and the damage/LB increase/AOE healing they do is very good!

Because its harder to use well. People don't like that

Kneel before the glory of the blood lily!

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

Disagreed, I still see more white mages in crystal

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While it's debatable if AST is better solely because of how strong WHM poly is, AST is being slept on a lot and has extremely dangerous burst aoe and strong party support.

Hard to say, any time I try to PVP as a white mage, I seem to end up in a 5v1 match while the rest of my party runs around like headless chickens.

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Originally Posted by Nanne

And that doesn't have much to do with what I said :p They are harder to play and they have higher potential with really good teams and the damage/LB increase/AOE healing they do is very good!

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Saying a job is "good with a really good team" really doesn't make much sense. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree that AST brings fantastic benefits to PVP for the reasons you listed and I actually prefer playing an AST, however right now with the amount of burst some teams can coordinate I really think that WHM is in a better spot. Unless of course you are queue syncing in which case all bets are off.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

While it's debatable if AST is better solely because of how strong WHM poly is, AST is being slept on a lot and has extremely dangerous burst aoe and strong party support.

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That AOE burst can really be good consider the initial opener, with the double-cast you can get both the heavy and the bind. however, unless i'm wrong, I've also accidently killed myself due to gravity if I haven't seen a samurai's buff being up--soo that's another downside at times of AST. (or it could just be my eyesight - I find all the effects rather hard to see at times)

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Originally Posted by Wolwosh

Because its harder to use well. People don't like that

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In PVP now? funny, I don't find that. i really find that AST skills flow super well. it's really a lot of fun. A couple of QOL improvements would be nice- like the animation lock on the lb- but once you're used to it, it's nice to get it down where you're in a safe spot to get it off.

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

How do you guys feel about it.

To me it's easily the best job in PVP now after Red Mage got nerfed because of how fast its LB recharges, and having CC that you can't do anything about via purify that wasn't touched.

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Between its poly and its ridiculously fast LB charge...it makes me not wanna pvp anymore because I see a WHM literally EVERY match in crystal and its getting old. I see that stupid beam 4 or 5 times a match, sometimes more. Meanwhile on my bard I can maybe get 2 LB's and their LB is pretty meh.

White Mage has to be one of the, if not THE, most busted classes found in FFXIVs new PvP. Every other Healer pales in comparison, with poor Astro eating dirt at the bottom.
I can't think of any other class which swings CC games more. If you see the enemy team with one, and you without, you'd best start praying their whole team are brand new sprouts as it's about to get a whole lot harder.
As well, WHMs can do just about everything needed well for PvP:
1.) Travel good distances with their jump.
2.) Deal pretty good damage in an overall sense, building their LMBs waaaay quick.
3.) Stun whole teams, while also dealing damage.
4.) Heal and cast barriers, obviously.
5.) Literally Polymorph peeps, probably their strongest single ability.

As a career WHM, I always avoided PvP. It because of the changes, I am giving it a try. It plays just how I like to do PvP.