SUGGESTION New RUN System/Change for Player's

I was wondering why we don't have a nicer character RUN system and we got just a RUN button :(

So my suggestion is to change the run system of the player character:
- change the rune time into a stamina bar.
- duration of rune time
- bind the run button to SHIFT or CTRL by default
- and because it is a stamina bar now if it is not fully consumed it shud stop when releasing the run button and go on a shorter cooldown because of it.

Wouldn't work. We use ctrl and shift as modifiers to activate buttons on hotbars.

This system is great in games where you have 2-4 attack buttons. Not 34

You are limiting yourself to CONTROL and SHIFT you don't see any other buttons on the keyboard.
If CONTROl of SHIFT is not ok then "Z" or "X".

And Valkyrie_Lenneth did you thot about using YGHJ instead of WASD ? I know ppl that do just so they heave more kye's around their fingers and don't need so many macros or they can use keys around their finger to do more macros.
You are dismissing my Suggestion because some ppl including me atm are using SHIFT and CONTROL to bind it with the number keys.

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Originally Posted by NasaX

You are limiting yourself to CONTROL and SHIFT you don't see any other buttons on the keyboard.
If CONTROl of SHIFT is not ok then "Z" or "X".

And Valkyrie_Lenneth did you thot about using YGHJ instead of WASD ? I know ppl that do just so they heave more kye's around their fingers and don't need so many macros or they can use keys around their finger to do more macros.
You are dismissing my Suggestion because some ppl including me atm are using SHIFT and CONTROL to bind it with the number keys.

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How will shift help you as a run button if your hand is halfway across the keyboard?

This just sounds like an idea born from playing action-y games. It doesn't translate well to XIV. Sprint works fine, no need to change it.

WASD is also more comfortable. My hands wont sit on YGHJ with my setup. That just would be incredibly uncomfortable. Plus, I don't have the finger dexterity to push every button around my hand WHILE moving and doing mechanics.

IMO yes, a sprint button tied to stamina (old TP system) nice to have.. system currently we have often wasted because I have to run for 1-3 sec.. and rest of CD wasted.
But everyone have different taste it is probably not okay for some people.. I can live without it :)

About key bind you can change it. But I use Shift + Key combination for skills.

What does this add except another layer of complexity? Why is this good and better than a sprint button for out of combat, and a brief class based spring in combat?

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Originally Posted by shadowclasper

What does this add except another layer of complexity? Why is this good and better than a sprint button for out of combat, and a brief class based spring in combat?

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It gives more control compared to default sprint, you can sprint at will assuming you have stamina, same as normal sprint turn on / off pressing sprint skill.
It can be useful in raids like p3s, because of mechanics player have to repeatedly center / corner, spread / stack.

Considering weird movement latency it is probably not going to happen but nice idea :3

Stamina sprint is the best there is. Probably would be god awful to use here due to slow response times

While it seems like a good idea, I think with the way the game is designed atm, it would invalidate alot of mechanics. I imagine they nerfed Expedient for a similar reason.

We had a stamina kind of bar, called the TP bar. It got removed. So prop not a chance in hell for a stamina bar to be added.

NO to TP bar coming back. It was stupid and horrible and a pain in the butt.

Why you want that back?

I would like for it to be like the new pvp sprint out of combat while in combat the same as now.

We already have sprint and it's working. Why would the devs create problems no-one asked for and then spend development time for coding the solution?

Thinking about it, we could have a bit of complexity in the running system.

Like, 3 "stacks" of running, each recovering after a shorter amount of time than now. When you double tap "w" or just by pressing a button, you consume a "stack". So for a shorter time (compared to now) you can run. If you use it again, the time is reset and you have the consumption of another run stack and so on until it runs out completely. Or, the time is added to the run.

Could be like: 1 run stack = 10 secs of sprint. If you press it 3 times, 30 seconds running in maximum. The cooldown could be like 15 secs for each stack...

That way, you can have a little deeper control over your runs and cooldowns.

What do you think? :)

Wanzzo i agree with you but atm I only see ppl complaining about changes to the game or how it will make them change the keybindings.
I am more looking for how this will change the game and how to improve it.

The current running system is the most basic one you pres you run until the timer then stop and cd which makes it will more like a skill than an actual run.
Run is supposed to be multi-stage cd shud depend on how long you were running for and possible how long you can run should depend on your level to or some stat ....
Ofc this would change how the game feels when using run compare to a skill called run.

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Originally Posted by NasaX

Wanzzo i agree with you but atm I only see ppl complaining about changes to the game or how it will make them change the keybindings.
I am more looking for how this will change the game and how to improve it.

The current running system is the most basic one you pres you run until the timer then stop and cd which makes it will more like a skill than an actual run.
Run is supposed to be multi-stage cd shud depend on how long you were running for and possible how long you can run should depend on your level to or some stat ....
Ofc this would change how the game feels when using run compare to a skill called run.

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Yes. I love ideas that aim to improve the game. Complaints will always be present (and anyways). Some are very useful, though.

Keep creating ideas. Maybe, the "walls will hear them" someday :)

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Originally Posted by NasaX

Wanzzo i agree with you but atm I only see ppl complaining about changes to the game or how it will make them change the keybindings.
I am more looking for how this will change the game and how to improve it.

The current running system is the most basic one you pres you run until the timer then stop and cd which makes it will more like a skill than an actual run.
Run is supposed to be multi-stage cd shud depend on how long you were running for and possible how long you can run should depend on your level to or some stat ....
Ofc this would change how the game feels when using run compare to a skill called run.

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I'm more inclined to believe that the SE team knows what run is supposed to be. It is after all that is the way it is designed.
Your 'supposed to be' is your opinion, so please don't state it as fact.

We have a button for Sprint. It's whatever hotbar button you place it on. A dedicated button isn't going to work on Console, which already has it's buttons used up.

Neither do we need another bar or gauge to manage or keep an eye on.

If anything, PvP's new Sprint needs to replace the normal Sprint action. We should be able to run when we want and lose it when we use an action. Then immediately re-apply it.

So all are happy with how running works ? NO space to Improve a basic system chat can change the gameplay in a big way ( it can change how boss fights are done) ?

Am I happy with how running works? Pretty much yes. This isn't Blade and Souls, where running is required in order to, well, fly. And, since there is no requirement to climb walls, it certainly doesn't seem as necessary in this game as in Genshin Impact. Face it, this game does not require Breath of the Wild mechanics.

Is it cool in other games? Sometimes. Mostly I've seen it used to, well, do the exact same thing as Sprint.

Ahh i thought this was gonna be about RUNe Fencer. Disappointed.

But I would like the Sprint to be sped up, it's still too slow in cities where mounts are prohibited and the Inn is across town

As a console player, having to hold down a button to sprint is always awful.

Also, I would be surprised if the game even can make it into a dynamic gauge instead of a skill with a cooldown.

On the assumption that they can't, I think the answer would be adding more stacks of sprint as you level up – either a simple second stack at level X or shorten the timer a little and add more stacks to compensate. (At very least, give the "more short bursts" variant to gatherers.)

"Sprint until you stop or perform an action" would also be a good variant.