open housing plot for all

When I look on my server in Twintania I see that ward 1 to 18 is pretty empty and
19 to 24 is rather full, same goes for the subplots
(talking about the new housing in the Empyreum..haven't check the others)

Housing is a wonderfull thing and I love to finally have a large free company house with my friends.
It's sad to see alot of wards empty because they are only for free companies.


So my question is : Why not open all wards for everyone instead of free company / personal ?


I would love to see the wards fill up and people enjoying the housing themself

...because people kept asking for Fc-wards only, arguing that FCs needed the houses more than indivuals since there are (FC) functions locked behind housing (mainly the workshop) and that FC-houses can provide more people with housing through FC-chambers and potentially everyone in the FC having a go at decorating, using things like the garden, vendors etc.

No matter what they're going to do, someone will complain though - because everyone is only looking for a way to increase the odds for themself (without realising that they'd probably still not get a house).

I think a lot of FC houses are affected by the housing bug, so at the moment they seem empty, but they will fill up once the lottery system bug is solved.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

...because people kept asking for Fc-wards only, arguing that FCs needed the houses more than indivuals since there are (FC) functions locked behind housing

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while that is true this doesn't change the fact that the current split is just ridicilous, and that is something that anyone truly thinking about it should have seen coming. doesn't even matter in that case if people truly believe fc's need houses that badly, release ishgard with 6 fc wards (instead of 18) and when people complain those aren't enough show them prove that even the 6 wards are half empty.

the problem isn't fc only housing, the problem is that square has changed the housing areas in a way as if every single fc needed at least a medium house while at the same time screwing single players up completly. if you look at a new server, with the current split (and yes, they can change it later, still no reason to release it like that) there are now (counting all wards including ishgard) as much potential houses for single players as there were in a single housing area before this change and that has to be a sad joke.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

...because people kept asking for Fc-wards only, arguing that FCs needed the houses more than indivuals since there are (FC) functions locked behind housing (mainly the workshop) and that FC-houses can provide more people with housing through FC-chambers and potentially everyone in the FC having a go at decorating, using things like the garden, vendors etc.

No matter what they're going to do, someone will complain though - because everyone is only looking for a way to increase the odds for themself (without realising that they'd probably still not get a house).

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sounds like a problem of the devs own making doesn't it? why make it so hard to get a house that ends up causing people to try and increase their chances as much as possible?

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

sounds like a problem of the devs own making doesn't it? why make it so hard to get a house that ends up causing people to try and increase their chances as much as possible?

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Oh, I agree that this is a problem created by the devs - but suggetions like the one presented by the OP dont actually adress the problem. The only solution would be instanced housing - any other "solution" presented just shifts the problem (including "make more housing available for individuals vs. FCs - it still wont be enough).

They will change the FC ward/plots to personal housing in a few lotteries!

They just wanted to make sure the FCs can get a house.

Patience, friend :3

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Originally Posted by WalkingDragon

So my question is : Why not open all wards for everyone instead of free company / personal ?

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My question is: Why do you believe it's gonna remain FC only huh ?

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Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

They will change the FC ward/plots to personal housing in a few lotteries!

They just wanted to make sure the FCs can get a house.

Patience, friend :3

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Already got the large house :) But I would love to see more people enjoy the thing i've already got

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Originally Posted by Big_Bap

My question is: Why do you believe it's gonna remain FC only huh ?

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live letters,not mentioned it so far...
But you are right, it might happen :cool:

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Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

They will change the FC ward/plots to personal housing in a few lotteries!

They just wanted to make sure the FCs can get a house.

Patience, friend :3

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I've been patient for almost six years. This is getting pretty old.

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Originally Posted by WalkingDragon

live letters,not mentioned it so far...
But you are right, it might happen :cool:

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I suggest you go and read the previous patch notes.

I hope wards 1-18 stay FC only. We don't need more empty lots

I think when the patch happens they need to change it so only 1-6 is FC wards, and 7-24 are personal wards. Flip the amount.

I thought that 6 wards for individual residents was pretty shit, especially with FCs owning up to half of the plots already and being grandfathered in. They should have introduced one or two new wards to help things out, but as it is it's just not at all satisfying. At this point I want to declare the housing situation total ass and would greatly appreciate it if they took outdoor furnishings off of the retainer venture pools.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

...because people kept asking for Fc-wards only, arguing that FCs needed the houses more than indivuals since there are (FC) functions locked behind housing (mainly the workshop) and that FC-houses can provide more people with housing through FC-chambers and potentially everyone in the FC having a go at decorating, using things like the garden, vendors etc.

No matter what they're going to do, someone will complain though - because everyone is only looking for a way to increase the odds for themself (without realising that they'd probably still not get a house).

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That actually sounds like a fairly sensible argument for prioritizing FC housing out of the gate for the new areas.

I notice that vacated plots still seem to be locked for FC or individual, but I could imagine them rebalancing things at some point and/or unlocking them.

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Originally Posted by Ishe-P

At this point I want to declare the housing situation total ass and would greatly appreciate it if they took outdoor furnishings off of the retainer venture pools.

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Most of the retainer venture items aren't useful and just get sold, donated, desynthed, or discarded. Replacing furnishings and housing parts with other common (junk) items probably wouldn't change that much.

The valuable items from retainer ventures are valuable largely because they are rare.

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Originally Posted by Avenger

Most of the retainer venture items aren't useful and just get sold, donated, desynthed, or discarded. Replacing furnishing and housing parts with other junk items probably wouldn't change that much.

The valuable items from retainer ventures are valuable because they are rare.

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This reads like a non-sequitur to me. I'm not sure how removing outdoor garbage would make other items any less rare? I would much rather my retainers deliver stuff that I might be able to use vs. stuff I can't use at all. At least Indoor Furnishings can be put in an Apartment or FC Room.

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Originally Posted by Varilyon

I hope wards 1-18 stay FC only. We don't need more empty lots

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Yes, if they keep it that way it will be all sunshine and rainbows for legitimate FCs. From now on, whenever a FC needs a house, there will be one waiting for it in Empyreum.... right.

Or, a bunch of shell FCs from RMT accounts will swoop in on the second or third round of lottery, having matured past 30 days. They will happily gobble up the around 450 small houses graciously held in reserve for them by SE (more than the entirety of the personal wards).

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Originally Posted by Varilyon

I hope wards 1-18 stay FC only. We don't need more empty lots

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The plots wouldn't be empty if players could purchase for personal houses.

Sounds more like you want them to remain empty by keeping the wards FC only.

I don't care about the FC/personal wards debate, just don't touch FC plots on Twintania until after my officer bids on one! :p

All I want is for the FC's experiencing the bug and can not buy their house to be able to, if there are no more people wishing to bid and others agree I don't see why they should leave it the way it is. Right now there is not really an eta besides 5-7 business days and sometime after patch 6.11 that this bug will be fixed. After that time we can at least see how much of the wards are actually full. There is no way to tell besides before going to every placard and seeing 1 bid on the house and the message there is no lottery participants. On primal at least there is much un accounted for because no one can do anything. If they just shift everything and make a change before they fix everything properly I will be kind of annoyed if the house my fc won gets 30 private owning bids on it because they changed everything and just ran a new lottery even though we were the only bid on the gosh darn house.