additions to CC Quick Chat

- "Group Together!" or "Regroup!" since the only option that says regroup also says to fall back
- "spread out!"
- "careful with enemy LB!" or really just "watch out" since some peope cant seem to pay attention at times
- please add some countdown for focusing an attack target. i know you can make a macro that uses enemy marks but i rather have that built into the game mode.
- while we're at it, change the "attacking X!" command to let us target enemy party members with commands similar to how we can target party members with <1> <2> <3> <4>

please just add more relevant options. half of them are redundant or useless (who cares about your MP???)

Or, y'know... Let us use the english language to communicate... That would work, too.

Mine from another thread:

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Suggested Additions:
1. Help <t> (for coordinating if you see someone getting ganked in the background)
2. Help me! (If you're the one getting ganked while everyone is chasing the enemy)
3. Conserve LB (For possible burst potential)
4. Use/Using LB (instead of just LB Ready allowing for coordination of targets)
5. Wait! (To try and catch people from running in since fall back and regroup is only for specific instances imo)
6. Enemy Behind us/Pinch/etc (for letting people know someone's coming from a side/behind you)
7. Incoming Field Effect! (For when aoe or bombs are coming up and some people are in the fray, Danger Bongos for PVP)
8. Use Guard/Guarding! (For flagging when you're using your defensive skill, this may be more niche but at least it tells someone that you've used it/are using it)
9. Don't attack <t>! (for moving people off of Tank or healer if they're getting killed trying to go after them. May not be needed with focusing on/attacking <t> )
10. I'm using Tilt Controls! (Kidding)



Essentially all the straightforward stuff that ANYONE would be able to call out if they were able to group up and/or utilize voice chat.

Can you use countdown in pvp? If so I'd love to build something like "LB <t>" then go into countdown. At least then you could herd the team a bit.

If even one person listens to you in the match you'd have a shot at organizing all these randos to possibly making a comeback/winning.

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Some other additions like "With you <t>" or "<t> Time for LB" or something to coordinate that you can go with people or team up something vs all or nothing.

Imagine having more communication buttons than action buttons in a game.

Why do we even have comms buttons in the first place?

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Originally Posted by ReiganCross

Or, y'know... Let us use the english language to communicate... That would work, too.

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I remember old Feast. There's a reason it is the way it is. We don't really want to go back.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

I remember old Feast. There's a reason it is the way it is. We don't really want to go back.

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You might not want to, but I would much prefer the occasional rants in chat but also being able to actually strategize with my team

To be blunt, most pre-match strategizing isn't really important and mid-match strategizing won't be noticed by your team 80% of the time anyway because the game is moving far too fast. Better and more expansive symbols and quick chat options for audio cues, sure. (I really do want a spread/get in pair.) Free chat? Just not that useful when compared to the toxicity potential.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

To be blunt, most pre-match strategizing isn't really important and mid-match strategizing won't be noticed by your team 80% of the time anyway because the game is moving far too fast. Better and more expansive symbols and quick chat options for audio cues, sure. (I really do want a spread/get in pair.) Free chat? Just not that useful when compared to the toxicity potential.

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I've said this elsewhere, but the potential benefits of free chat would outweigh the ranting. Add in something to quickly mute someone and voila, you don't have to deal with the "toxic" people while being able to communicate in a constructive way

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Originally Posted by Sindele

I remember old Feast. There's a reason it is the way it is. We don't really want to go back.

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I think it is unreasonable that any PvE drama is allowed to be resolved trough Chat, but PvP is not. Any Drama happening there deserves to be adressed between individuals because at the end of the day, its a personal issue and Squeenix shouldnt be even be involved in the first place.

Also, forcing silence on all sides will only make things worse, because people NEED an outlet for pent up frustration, morality aside.

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Originally Posted by Karasio

I've said this elsewhere, but the potential benefits of free chat would outweigh the ranting. Add in something to quickly mute someone and voila, you don't have to deal with the "toxic" people while being able to communicate in a constructive way

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What potential benefits exist that cannot be replicated with better quick chats or markers? Again, this is not a mode that lends itself to complex strategic plans - it is simple and fast-paced. Priorities shift rapidly, often faster than I could type - and I'm a 140wpm lunatic that loves to weave messages to FC chat between GCDs. Your warnings will be too late, or unnoticed, or forgotten - and if you're just going to macro things, well, that's just quick chat.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

I think it is unreasonable that any PvE drama is allowed to be resolved trough Chat, but PvP is not. Any Drama happening there deserves to be adressed between individuals because at the end of the day, its a personal issue and Squeenix shouldnt be even be involved in the first place.

Also, forcing silence on all sides will only make things worse, because people NEED an outlet for pent up frustration, morality aside.

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There are plenty of existing outlets that you can make use of. Your FC chat, whispers to your friends, complaining on Discord, ranting at your dog, screaming into your pillow, and so on. What you are not entitled to is to take out those frustrations on your team members.

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Originally Posted by Karasio

I've said this elsewhere, but the potential benefits of free chat would outweigh the ranting. Add in something to quickly mute someone and voila, you don't have to deal with the "toxic" people while being able to communicate in a constructive way

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Yeah, no thanks.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

I think it is unreasonable that any PvE drama is allowed to be resolved trough Chat, but PvP is not. Any Drama happening there deserves to be adressed between individuals because at the end of the day, its a personal issue and Squeenix shouldnt be even be involved in the first place.

Also, forcing silence on all sides will only make things worse, because people NEED an outlet for pent up frustration, morality aside.

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Lol no they don't. Nobody gets to just be an asshole because they can't find a productive outlet for their anger that isn't being a piece of shit towards somebody else. Besides, the reason people get to work their drama out in PvE is that people largely aren't giant shitters there. I very rarely run into any grief while doing pve content. I constantly see insane trash rants in frontlines and frontlines is the biggest nothing matters chill pvp experience. Feast was a monstrous cess pit back in ye olden days and they would be stupid to bring chat back. Even with the limited chat function, they have been getting flooded with bm reports and it would only be two to three times as bad if dipshits got to type the swears and slurs they would like to as they do in literally every other pvp game that exists.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

There are plenty of existing outlets that you can make use of. Your FC chat, whispers to your friends, complaining on Discord, ranting at your dog, screaming into your pillow, and so on. What you are not entitled to is to take out those frustrations on your team members.

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That's besides the point im making here. My point is, that PvE content like high end Raiding can get just as "toxic" as PvP does, yet the former is allowed to resolve matters via Chat while PvP, is not.

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

Even with the limited chat function, they have been getting flooded with bm reports and it would only be two to three times as bad if dipshits got to type the swears and slurs they would like to as they do in literally every other pvp game that exists.

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The blacklist function exists for a reason. Doesn't take a lot of effort to use it. Report, blacklist and move on lol. Buuuut that's just wishful thinking I guess

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Originally Posted by Anhra

I think it is unreasonable that any PvE drama is allowed to be resolved trough Chat, but PvP is not. Any Drama happening there deserves to be adressed between individuals because at the end of the day, its a personal issue and Squeenix shouldnt be even be involved in the first place.

Also, forcing silence on all sides will only make things worse, because people NEED an outlet for pent up frustration, morality aside.

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Having a good competitive match IS the outlet - not taking out 'pent up frustrations' in chat and not being an asshat - and no, morality isn't an aside", however you do you, it's in the GM's hands should chat be opened up - I don't see how in CC during the match - just pre-match would be fine.

I'd like to be able to communicate in the best way.......with text.
People are perfectly capable of creating macros for PvE, why not PvP.

If I had a macro for "Do not split" I'd be hammering it with the fist of an angry god at the start of some matches.

Nice Job (no offense, please don't ban)

Dunno if it's been mentioned, as most of what I'd say were, but a "Using Potion" or something would be sort of nice to indicate that you're temporarily out of the ongoing skirmish.

I don’t understand why we can’t have use of the chat system. Just keep the same ToS that if someone get crazy and start mouthing off to people you’ll get banned. Repeated offenders will get perma ban. Simple. I can assure you people won’t be mouthing off like that.

Even now with CC. People use to spam “nice job and good match” throughout the match. Not anymore. People don’t wanna be banned. They will act right.

So SE give us back the open chat in pvp please.

Lukewarm take, having played pvp games religiously for 10+ years, I think SE not having in game chat is probably less white and black as people make it out to be. A… pretty major portion of pvp chat tends to be dedicated to angry things that have nothing to do with strategizing.

There’s probably a lot of mostly PvE players who are having pipe dreams about enlightening their team with their godly strategizing, having them follow your lead, and suddenly winning games. This almost never happens in reality.

What happens is that the guy you think is throwing the game also thinks you’re throwing the game, they’ll let you know just as strongly as you let them know, and the team will probably lose even harder from both of you afking to yell at each other and tilting the rest of your team. You’ll probably find out 1000 games later when you’re top whatever % that you were both wrong at the time, and that it was a complete waste of time even engaging in that squabble in hindsight.

That’s how chat usually tends to go. It’s going to be as much getting flamed for not playing dragoon 5 seconds into the match as it is any legitimate strategizing.

not having a game chat would be okayish if we had relevant quick chat options. i cant even type most of the time because i play in controller anyways so i would still probably use set phrase macros

One look at current quick chat spam easily tells you how regular chat would be abused. That being said the quick chat as it stands is borderline useless as we don't have things like hold LB, help me, etc on the system. We need more options to communicate to our team why we're not answering them after they spam "push the crystal" 100 times and we're saying attacking the reaper. It's because I'm a sge 1v1'ing a Reaper in our boss spawn and can't do anything because I'm locked in a stalemate until one of us dies. Simply having "help me" or "I'm being attacked by <t>" would at least go a long way towards communicating between people why they're doing/not doing what people are trying to coordinate.