Petition: I want YoshiP to Fantasia to Hrothgar for a Month

You know, I’m really sick of this. These hairstyles which were promised us for years came out crappy, and I still can’t wear all the new headgear. In fact, you make places other races can’t even go.

I am tired of every new announcement of some really spiffy item, or dungeon there I see YoshiP running around as a Lalafell “‘cause that’s his favorite!”

We know.

So Yoshi, you’re famous for appearing amongst the players and talking to people who are playing the game and interviews with content creators.

Zero of whom are Hrothgar.

So you know what? I want you to show up for one live letter as a Hrothgar. I want you to spend a month looking at your hair clipping through your collar. I want you to spend a month announcing features as a Hrothgar and not getting to wear all the new gear. Or participate in seasonal events and get all the rewards. You think those new hairstyles pass muster? Walk your talk, and let’s see you wear one. JPEGs or it didn’t happen, pal.

You want to show me you give a rip about Hrothgar, I’ll see you in the next Live Letter.

Those who wanna help, write “me too” below or something.

-Kelly

Just write “me too” below

Me too to be honest.

But not just him. Other people in the Dev Team too. And for a good while, not just a week and be done with it. If anything so they understand exactly how it's been feeling for years now.

Issue is, they won't have the added experience of Jandelaine not working on their hair anymore, at least not fully. And they won't have the added experience of silence from their part, the community all focusing on one race and ignoring the other, and the frustration of having nothing added despite people asking for it and being patient.

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Originally Posted by Kelev

You know, I’m really sick of this. These hairstyles which were promised us for years came out crappy, and I still can’t wear all the new headgear. In fact, you make places other races can’t even go.

I am tired of every new announcement of some really spiffy item, or dungeon there I see YoshiP running around as a Lalafell “‘cause that’s his favorite!”

We know.

So Yoshi, you’re famous for appearing amongst the players and talking to people who are playing the game and interviews with content creators.

Zero of whom are Hrothgar.

So you know what? I want you to show up for one live letter as a Hrothgar. I want you to spend a month looking at your hair clipping through your collar. I want you to spend a month announcing features as a Hrothgar and not getting to wear all the new gear. Or participate in seasonal events and get all the rewards. You think those new hairstyles pass muster? Walk your talk, and let’s see you wear one. JPEGs or it didn’t happen, pal.

You want to show me you give a rip about Hrothgar, I’ll see you in the next Live Letter.

Those who wanna help, write “me too” below or something.

-Kelly

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Me too!
I would also be curious how would his Hrothgar would look.

Me too, but until patch 6.2.

me too. hopefully soon!

Me too.
I am tired of the fact that people who are quiet about issues, these hrothgars, are quiet not because they are fine with it, no. They are quiet because they have frankly given up.

Me too. Not purely for him to experience what's like but I'd like to see the man himself who said he wanted to put hrothgar in the game and how he'd customize his character.

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Originally Posted by RanRanTheCat

Me too.
I am tired of the fact that people who are quiet about issues, these hrothgars, are quiet not because they are fine with it, no. They are quiet because they have frankly given up.

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I never gave up but I never expected much to begin with.
I just thought that the new hairstyles Hrothgars would get would all be unique and tailored for Hrothgars due to their unique heads.
Not some copy+pasted old hairstyles.
I don't even want that, I want Hrothgar hairstyles, not old "normal" hairstyles.
Luckily I'm satisfied with what I got atm and can live with it for as long as needed.

me too -
not a hrothgar player myself, but yoshi and the other devs really seem to need to broaden their experiences to better see/address basic player issues--i can understand the daunting backlog that updating older gear is (despite modders knocking it out with user-customizable variability in a few short months), but it's still weird that current gear isn't being made with hrothgar and viera comptibility in mind (how have they not updated the pipeline to account for all races, rather than adding yet more to the pile of hats they have to sort out).

especially things like "we couldnt unhook the ears from the skull rather than having them on the hair like miqo'te, so Hr hair gets the ears cut off now" and having had to pay real-ass money to fanta for basic appearance changes that others can spend 2500 gil for for nigh-on 2.5 years now.

also i want to force yoshi to play a healer through NG+ just to learn the pain that is your 70-95% downtime never changing from level 4 to level 90

Will give an alternative...

If hrothgar is too much for him, he could play as a viera too since we share a lot of the same problems. Though admittedly you do have it worse since you have to pay real money to get your avatar's hair cut.

And I think just a month is being a bit generous since it might be one of those months where the in-game event doesn't have unwearable headgear.

Mia too! My uncle fricken loves the Hrothgar.

As extra he must also play as White Mage from level 1 - 90 while using no administrative tools to ease the experience.

Loool! Me too!

:)


Cheers

I don't play Hrothgar nor do I personally like them much, but if they're not into providing full support from A to Z to a race then they better not introduce it as a playable race to begin with.

They should experience what we have to... So me Too

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

I don't play Hrothgar nor do I personally like them much, but if they're not into providing full support from A to Z to a race then they better not introduce it as a playable race to begin with.

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Should've thought about that before Viera too then.
But then we would still have to endure the "Make Viera a playable race" threads over and over.

It will absolutely never happen, but...yeah me too. I'm sure they're already aware of all the nonsense surrounding hrothgar but only in that way where they've seen data on a sheet. They have absolutely never been made to feel any of the problems they created.

Me too...
...but I also kinda don't want it, because I'm not sure how I feel about a Hrothgar-P running around. I keep picturing a Hrothgar with Yoshi-P's face and the 2B hair.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

Me too...
...but I also kinda don't want it, because I'm not sure how I feel about a Hrothgar-P running around. I keep picturing a Hrothgar with Yoshi-P's face and the 2B hair.

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you're describing exactly why he should, honestly.

Me too. But he probably won't. I don't think he likes Hrothgar very much

Me too
That would be awesome ! :D

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Should've thought about that before Viera too then.
But then we would still have to endure the "Make Viera a playable race" threads over and over.

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Others may say otherwise, but I'd still say the same. If devs aren't committed to developing a new playable race AND supporting it with everything others have then they shouldn't develop it in the first place.
The devs are now obliged to fully support not one but two new races they messed up with, and I don't know what caused this mess as they have already developed an entirely new race from the ground up (Au'ras)

I don't play a Hrothgar, but I'd still love to see YoshiP play one for an extended period of time. Let's get him off of BLM for a while too, while we're at it.

me too

But I raise the challenge to "until they fix the races".
He really wanted a bestial race in the game, and now that it exists, he doesn't even consider using it. I'm here thinking why?

+1
I agree, this would be really interesting to see.

It’s easy for him to keep Hrothgar waiting for over 3 years, all while he plays a race who has access to all customisations in the game. This would give him a glimpse on what the Hrothgar have endured for all this time, and he would be more understanding of why people are annoyed.

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

+1
I agree, this would be really interesting to see.

It’s easy for him to keep Hrothgar waiting for over 3 years, all while he plays a race who has access to all customisations in the game. This would give him a glimpse on what the Hrothgar have endured for all this time, and he would be more understanding of why people are annoyed.

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Considering that his lalafell is female, just imagine when he finds out that the race he wanted so much doesn't have a female version yet.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

Others may say otherwise, but I'd still say the same. If devs aren't committed to developing a new playable race AND supporting it with everything others have then they shouldn't develop it in the first place.
The devs are now obliged to fully support not one but two new races they messed up with, and I don't know what caused this mess as they have already developed an entirely new race from the ground up (Au'ras)

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I think it's because AuRa was a planned race.
Viera and Hrothgar was only added due to the community begging for Viera for years.
Hrothgars was added to also give people who wanted a beast race something.

Neither of these 2 races was something SE had in mind until demanded for.
So I'm not shocked that they can't keep up with all the races now when they have 2 more they probably wouldn't have added otherwise.
I just thought that new stuff added post would've had Viera and Hrothgar in mind when tailored to races to work with.

All jests aside I think playing as the race for a month or patch might as least give him or staff ideas about what might look good. Im still holding out on a posture toggle at the Aesthetician. He claims that Hrothgar are a "bestial" race so they should stay hunched, but did you see the hairs they just added? Not exactly convincing.

Me too.

I wholeheartedly believe Yoship and the dev team can do much better.

They are one of the biggest MMOs.

They already done many awesome things with the game.

Is one of the main playable races of your game why can't be treated with the same effort and quality as the others, i can't possibly see an excuse for this.

If they don't have enough hands for do such thing they must be more than able to hire at least someone to dedicate to the job or outsource a company capable of it, as they said, is not that can't be done, is just that they are currently mediocre at it and they don't seem that interested on improving.

He should definitely do it to better understand how the race-specific limitations are upsetting to many players.

Um, hello???
Yoshi-P going "OwO" for a month???
THIS I gotta see!!!
ME TOO!

But yeah, it'll definitely be good for him to walk in our shoes (or paws) for a month to see what it's like for us Hroths. Might give him better insight on what we want fixed.

Yes, yes, yes.
How can they be aware of problems when they don't see it first hand?

Why just a month?

Wanna be really helpful?

Design some new Hrothgar hairstyles and e-mail them to SE.

Me too asf.

Me too of course !
It could be very fun to see…

Me too. I'm not a Hroth, but I feel you. I used to play as one, and just gave up because it was awfully executed. The hunchbacks, and hairstyle restrictions/no ears on the hair have got to go.

Me too. He wanted them, so the least he could do is see what he was complicit in creating firsthand.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Wanna be really helpful?

Design some new Hrothgar hairstyles and e-mail them to SE.

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We already have, it's in another forum

If you want the best character and job combination that, even though it may wax and wane from patch to patch, will never be forgotten, simply follow the wisdom of Yoshi-P: Lalafell Black Mage. :D