Why is there a timer on recently relocated plots?

If we are moving over to a new lottery based system, and someone relocated... then why am I sitting at a plot that is freshly re-opened due to the relocation to ishgard, yet not able to place a bid for the lottery to relocate myself?

Seems pointless to have to CONTINUE waiting, to wait to bid, to wait for the bid to close, and to wait to see that I lost so i can wait some more to try to relocate once again.

My guess is that all plots now will be working by one schedule.

Because we're currently in the claiming phase. The next bidding phase for all open plots starts Wednesday.

you have to wait the 4 days and then the next lottery will begin. it's not immediate.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Because we're currently in the claiming phase. The next bidding phase for all open plots starts Wednesday.

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There shouldn't be a wait timer to wait. That's horrible.

The house is already confirmed to be relocated to ishgard, so the land should IMMEDIATELY become available for bidding. It seems idiotic to design a system that requires a player to wait 4 days to even start bidding, then wait an X amount of days for that bid to end.

Almost like going to a theme park to ride your favorite roller coaster, but in order to ride, you need to wait in line, but before you can wait in line, you need to wait in another line to get to the waiting line. Like what?

The phases are set in stone and the same now for everyone, so that players don't have to keep track of dozens different timers for different plots.

Yeah but artificially putting a timer on the plots that cant be bid for even though they are available is terrible. that's 4 extra days of needless waiting on a issue where time is still sensitive because everyone wants housing. The artificial waiting time due to being locked behind a calendar date arguably adds to MORE of the issues of housing because it's extending the waiting period by an extra 4 days within cycling, on top of the long biding period, which is also a multiple day wait time. That's terrible design, and pointless for that matter. Nothing needs to be confirmed if they are already relocated and setting up their house. Waiting for zero reasons what so ever besides a calendar day(s) tick is actually really bad design.

So if you want to buy a House now you must wait until next Wednesday for the next bidding/Lottery Day right? *just correct me if i'm wrong*

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Originally Posted by Darisha

So if you want to buy a House now you must wait until next Wednesday for the next bidding/Lottery Day right? *just correct me if i'm wrong*

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Yes, then wait another 5 days for bidding to end.

Ok so no need to camp the plots T-T Good to hear thanks ♥

The first 18 wards in every housing district is now fc only. Terrible. Does the next lottery start the 20th? Or are we stuck waiting until the next patch with all these empty plots. So frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

Yeah but artificially putting a timer on the plots that cant be bid for even though they are available is terrible. that's 4 extra days of needless waiting on a issue where time is still sensitive because everyone wants housing. The artificial waiting time due to being locked behind a calendar date arguably adds to MORE of the issues of housing because it's extending the waiting period by an extra 4 days within cycling, on top of the long biding period, which is also a multiple day wait time. That's terrible design, and pointless for that matter. Nothing needs to be confirmed if they are already relocated and setting up their house. Waiting for zero reasons what so ever besides a calendar day(s) tick is actually really bad design.

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The point is to have all the plots that opened up available for bidding at one time. People only get a single bid to use per bid period, so they want to make sure they have the chance to peruse the full set of options available, especially since you can't undo a placed bid.

Someone didn't read the patch notes. All plots forfeited or relocated in a lottery's 9 day cycle wait until the NEXT lottery phase to become available to place a bid on. Patch notes were clear.

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Originally Posted by stulticaeruleum

Someone didn't read the patch notes. All plots forfeited or relocated in a lottery's 9 day cycle wait until the NEXT lottery phase to become available to place a bid on. Patch notes were clear.

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It doesn’t specify the next lottery period though. Is it right after this one? Does it keep repeating? Or does it mean we wait for them to reassess in the next major patch? I’m hoping we get another chance soon, but that still doesn’t address the FC plots laying empty until August/September when 6.2 comes out.

This was already scheduled to happen, you basically get 3 chances a month to get a house via lottery, which is abysmal, the 4 days "waiting & claiming" period is absolutely useless and unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

It doesn’t specify the next lottery period though. Is it right after this one? Does it keep repeating? Or does it mean we wait for them to reassess in the next major patch? I’m hoping we get another chance soon, but that still doesn’t address the FC plots laying empty until August/September when 6.2 comes out.

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It's literally going to be Wednesday at 10am CDT m'dude.

so old wards like mist use the lottery system now? i dont have to camp all day?

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

so old wards like mist use the lottery system now? i dont have to camp all day?

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That is correct. All plots left open on Wednesday at 9:59am CDT will roll into the next lottery period at 10am that same day.

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

so old wards like mist use the lottery system now? i dont have to camp all day?

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Correct. All districts are currently using the lottery system as well as wards 1-18 being fc bids only & 19-24 being personal bids only.

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

so old wards like mist use the lottery system now? i dont have to camp all day?

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The lottery system is for all plots now. The wards 1-18 are fc only, 19-24 in all housing districts now.

The 4 day waiting period is STILL NOT needed.


Look, if you relocate to a new plot in ishgard, your OLD PLOT IS NEW TO SOMEONE ELSE!

The 4 day waiting period should be to WAIT TO PRESS YES TO RELOCATE to the new plot. If you don't you stay at your old plot, get a penalty, move on. But the relocation process ONLY STARTS WHEN YOU PRESS YES TO CLAIM YOUR LOTTERY. It's not automatic.

Now when you press yes, you auto-relocate and your OLD plot is up for grabs.... right? No.

There should for NO REASON what so ever be a 4 day waiting period time on your OLD plot. It's already gone. It's demolished. It's waiting for a new owner, but no one can place a bid on that for 4 whole days. That is stupid, bad game design, and a needless waiting period for something that should be instant. Once it is readily available, it should be immediately biddable for 5 days. Not waiting to wait to bid for 4 days.

The old plot is ALREADY confirmed gone. You pressed yes, you relocated. You can't go back on it. Your house doesn't get demolished in the bidding process, it only gets demolished after you confirmed relocated.

Therefore there should ABSOLUTELY FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER, be a wait time on bidding on a new plot that is available for a new owner.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Because we're currently in the claiming phase. The next bidding phase for all open plots starts Wednesday.

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I doubt that is going to happen until they come up with a fix for the 0 bug.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

Yes, then wait another 5 days for bidding to end.

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They have postponed it to a later date
https://www.eurogamer.net/final-fant...lottery-system

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

Therefore there should ABSOLUTELY FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER, be a wait time on bidding on a new plot that is available for a new owner.

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The reason is to keep all houses on the same timer so people don't have to watch every ward every day to see what came up for sale when. That's like, one of the main functions of the lottery system in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

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It makes sure anyone that was unable to relocate/get a house, potentially can still. You have 4 days to "check" to see if you won and claim, if for w/e reason you have to log on in the last day to find out you lost, that gives you like no time to see what others have become available if you were to just run a new lottery on the relocated plot immediately on a different timer. It essentially is just making sure all houses, across all areas that become available are available for everyone to lot on, in the same period. I don't find this unreasonable at all, it does make sense. Now it does suck that the competition on said lottery increases with every wave just due to the number of houses available going down.

The 4 day limbo period in addition to the 5 day lotto time, gives people ample time to scout around, see what's available, make a decision and throw down the cash. It seems slow, but it makes sense and I understand the decision.

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Originally Posted by Imoen

It makes sure anyone that was unable to relocate/get a house, potentially can still. You have 4 days to "check" to see if you won and claim, if for w/e reason you have to log on in the last day to find out you lost, that gives you like no time to see what others have become available if you were to just run a new lottery on the relocated plot immediately on a different timer. It essentially is just making sure all houses, across all areas that become available are available for everyone to lot on, in the same period. I don't find this unreasonable at all, it does make sense. Now it does suck that the competition on said lottery increases with every wave just due to the number of houses available going down.

The 4 day limbo period in addition to the 5 day lotto time, gives people ample time to scout around, see what's available, make a decision and throw down the cash. It seems slow, but it makes sense and I understand the decision.

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You dont need 4 days to see what plots are available. You also have 5 days of bidding to see what plots are available. There is no reason to wait 4 days for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

You dont need 4 days to see what plots are available. You also have 5 days of bidding to see what plots are available. There is no reason to wait 4 days for nothing.

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You just pointed out the problem that I was trying to express with doing it right away.

If the winner relocates immediately on day one hour one, and some of the people that lost, don't find out till the last day due to RL or w/e... if you had ran the lottery right away they would have roughly 24 hours to scout and find out the new lotto was available, already started and about to end.

Anyway I'm not arguing it isn't frustrating, simply that I understand it. Ideally we would just have enough houses for everyone, but you know .. here we are.

I really don't understand why they can't just let the people that won just go to it at anytime and claim it while restarting the lottery and refund the money to the people that lost on the same day. Is it something that the game can't do because of limitations or something like that.

It's a few days, you'll live.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

It's a few days, you'll live.

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A few days x3 per month, so you basically get 3 chances a month for a house, with probably 100+ people bidding on it, so yes, that is a lot, and reduces the chances by an immense margin.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

It seems idiotic to design a system that requires a player to wait 4 days to even start bidding, then wait an X amount of days for that bid to end.

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This game loves regular schedules/patterns. Maintenance is targeted to end at the same time every week (by 3am Pacific time Tuesday morning). Weekly limits et al reset at the same time every week. We know exactly what levels of gear are likely to release with any given major patch. We know how many endgame dungeons there are likely to be when an expansion first launches (3, one MSQ one and two optional, all of which drop accessories of an ilevel identical to the job artifact gear). Etc.

The idea behind the auction, so far as I can tell, is that people all have the same amount of time to bid on things. If the houses opened for bidding and then ran for X days and then closed, people would still need to be running around trying to figure out which houses were open when. (This one opened on a Monday, so the winner would be drawn on Friday, while this one opened on Wednesday so would have the drawing on Sunday, etc.)

This way, folks know when they can start bidding and when the drawings will happen.

It also has the benefit that you can scout out which plots are available ahead of time, then figure out which one you want to bid on when it opens up and go straight there, rather than always running around to figure out if a plot you liked better opened up and if you should pull your bid from one and put it onto another... which, I suspect, might even be a factor in why it's got a set, cyclical window for bidding.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

Almost like going to a theme park to ride your favorite roller coaster, but in order to ride, you need to wait in line, but before you can wait in line, you need to wait in another line to get to the waiting line. Like what?

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No, it's more like saying "the theme park is open Wednesday through Sunday", and then showing up on Monday and going "But I want to ride my favorite roller coaster now, why should I have to wait until Wednesday? I'm already going to have to wait in line for the coaster, I shouldn't have to wait until a specific day to get in line!"

Whether or not you like that the theme park is closed for two days of a week, the fact is that it is closed on those days.