Wrong pronoun in quest text

In the quest "Frozen Hope" the text reads:

"[7:13]Fourchenault: But Luna here and his companions refused to forsake those we were otherwise unwilling to save. With great risk to themselves, they achieved the impossible, and opened my eyes to the error of the Forum's decision."

My character is female, have not fantasia'd since 3.0 and even then I stayed female.

Just had the same thing happen to me where my female character was referred to as male in the quest dialogue

It's shameful, honestly.

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Image of the cutscene in question.

I had the same issue with my female character just now. I'm guessing that bit of dialogue is missing a tag for gender check.

Poor Hojo, as if being a bunboi wasn't effeminate enough

https://i.imgur.com/2TOc8gr.png

And I know thighlanders are intimidating, but I'm not quite as masculine as my emotes lead to believe.

It's probably because the game priorities the Japanese language first. There would have been no difference at all in this part in the Japanese version. Unless Derplander is a young 15 year old boy or a female butch tomboy, the pronoun in Japanese would be exactly the same

Considered making a post about this when I caught this localization error during this quest, but decided to search the forums a bit, and indeed found this thread. Of course, this isn't that big of a deal, and the fix to it is even less of a deal from their side, I'm sure. In other words: literally unplayable, devs plz fix ASAP.

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Originally Posted by JepMZ

It's probably because the game priorities the Japanese language first. There would have been no difference at all in this part in the Japanese version. Unless Derplander is a young 15 year old boy or a female butch tomboy, the pronoun in Japanese would be exactly the same

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Variable text is programmed directly into the script. The Japanese version has no bearing on whether the English version will insert a variable.

The pronouns are switched for male/female with emotes as well. There must be some coding mix up the has everyone reversed.

I also experienced this issue.

We've submitted a fix for this, so it should be in soon. Thanks, everyone!

I just thought that the "his" in that statement was in reference to Alphinaud, because the previous sentence alluding to him.

Does anyone know if this has been fixed yet? I put off doing the quest until it is.

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Originally Posted by Kazemon15

Does anyone know if this has been fixed yet? I put off doing the quest until it is.

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I just checked the Unending Journey and it appeared to be fixed.


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However, I'm still upset about this issue happening in the first place. This sort of thing is way too common in game development, where "male" seems to be regarded as the default, look no further than the Derplander in trailers to see that this is the case. Which means female players and player characters are often regarded as less important. FF14 is definitely not the worst offender of this, but I really wanted to believe that the devs were better than that.

It's common overall, not just in game development. It's easy for the person writing it to use their own pronoun and to forget that some magick normally replaces the pronouns so it changes depending on which one your character uses.

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Originally Posted by GuardianOfApples

However, I'm still upset about this issue happening in the first place. This sort of thing is way too common in game development, where "male" seems to be regarded as the default, look no further than the Derplander in trailers to see that this is the case. Which means female players and player characters are often regarded as less important. FF14 is definitely not the worst offender of this, but I really wanted to believe that the devs were better than that.

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I thought it was reversed and both genders were getting the wrong pronoun, as in post #6? Or was it different for quest vs emote issues?

In any case I don't see it as something to get upset over. Even if there's no bias, putting in a single gender pronoun as a placeholder for going back and adding a variable later is going to be 50/50 which gender they pick. Insisting it should always be female to begin with isn't any better than always male.

There are battles to pick for equal representation, but I don't think this is one of them.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I thought it was reversed and both genders were getting the wrong pronoun, as in post #6? Or was it different for quest vs emote issues?

In any case I don't see it as something to get upset over. Even if there's no bias, putting in a single gender pronoun as a placeholder for going back and adding a variable later is going to be 50/50 which gender they pick. Insisting it should always be female to begin with isn't any better than always male.

There are battles to pick for equal representation, but I don't think this is one of them.

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Dunno if it was, if so it would seem they didn't do much quality testing with the quest.

Always one or the other is the issue. The default is always the same one, making it feel like the other is an afterthought. Which can kind of hurt sometimes.

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Originally Posted by GuardianOfApples

Always one or the other is the issue. The default is always the same one, making it feel like the other is an afterthought. Which can kind of hurt sometimes.

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I just can't bring myself to be offended by it.

If people are actually writing to me specifically, then yeah, I'd prefer they default to "they" rather than "he" – but if they do, just correct it and move on.

Being offended that someone wrote "he" as a placeholder for nobody in particular, with no malice behind it, seems like too much effort. It was an error and they fixed it.

This was likely an honest mistake, and humans aren't infallible. It's not reasonable to assume there's some other agenda at play.

It was just a mistake, and it was fixed. There was no ill intention.