What is your favorite Job change in 6.1?

Mine is a tie:

Overpower for Warriors FINALLY being fixed is amazing. White Mage catching a nice line of buffs is incredible as well.

WHM buffs of course, lovely!

sage having three stacks of addersting at the start of duties allowing for damage during heavy movement.

After 7 years, Living Dead was finally addressed and actually addressed well.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Mine is a tie:

Overpower for Warriors FINALLY being fixed

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Weird way to spell ruined. Imho that WAR change is easily the most unnecessary of the changes in 6.1. going to miss hitting mobs all the way in Narnia with a well aimed Overpower.

As for Favorit Change? Defenitly the WHM lily adjustments. Shows that they can actually listen if Healers complain long enough.

WHM

But I do like the tanks changes as well.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

After 7 years, Living Dead was finally addressed and actually addressed well.

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I don't know if it was particularly addressed well, but it's definitely an improvement... But aside from the self heal, it's essentially a worse Holmgang.

WHM changes are good

I like the Jump/High Jump and Mirage Dive consolidation

Happy we don't need to be singing for Battle Voice anymore

And the DNC changes are nice so those procs under what is now silken don't go poof if you accidentally hit Flourish

Mostly WHM since that's my main, but the DRK is definitely the one that pleasantly surprised me the most. I keep looking back at it in amazement. Maintenance can't end fast enough.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I don't know if it was particularly addressed well, but it's definitely an improvement... But aside from the self heal, it's essentially a worse Holmgang.

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That's better than what it was though. So that's at least a small win compared to no win over 7 years right?

I'm so happy that AST didn't get simplified /pray

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I don't know if it was particularly addressed well, but it's definitely an improvement... But aside from the self heal, it's essentially a worse Holmgang.

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No tank invuln is as good as Holmgagng, but Living Dead has the 2nd shortest recast, the longest duration, and unless you really mess up the timing, no longer kills you.

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Originally Posted by SacraAnima

I'm so happy that AST didn't get simplified /pray

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won't last they are going to hit every job with these "improvements"

There best "change" is fixing dark nights immunity after how many years?

Actually quite like the change to BRD's Battle Voice: "No longer requires the effect of Mage's Ballad, Army's Paeon, or the Wanderer's Minuet to be active." Seems like a positive to me.

However, not sure I see the point in the change to 'Repelling Shot' (Range has been increased from 5 to 15 yalms. Activation time has been adjusted to match that of other backstep actions.)

Machinist.

I like my classes dead and low damaging.

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Originally Posted by SacraAnima

I'm so happy that AST didn't get simplified /pray

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So AST is still riddled with button bloat. Got it. Hope they get around to fixing it.

Blood Weapon finally going on charges. Still waiting for Machinist's Hypercharge to do the same (it's the only one remaining).
Also glad for aoe shapes being consistent. I would've preferred a cone > cone over a circle > circle but I never enjoyed a cone > circle aoe pattern.

Tenka Goken not being a cone.

Shorter DRG animations. <3 <3 <3

Energy Drain not being deleted for the third time.

WHM lilies charging 30% faster seems like the biggest thing.

WAR actually seems like a nerf, overpower had like twice the range as all the other tank aoe and you could always just use mythril tempest for gathering dungeon mobs while running through when that shape was more useful; now it's just the same as everything else. The Inner release change let's you get it's cooldown started a couple gcd's sooner so i guess that's pretty ok

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

So AST is still riddled with button bloat. Got it. Hope they get around to fixing it.

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Button bloat just sounds like todays excuse to say i’m bad at my job i need them to make it easier so i don’t have to try.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Button bloat just sounds like todays excuse to say i’m bad at my job i need them to make it easier so i don’t have to try.

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If you think what they did to AST turning multiple skills into multiple buttons in the name of simplification is not button bloat... dunno what to say. It's just a mess

All the PvP ones. PvE - none, game needs to expand the gap between skill floors and ceilings big time.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

If you think what they did to AST turning multiple skills into multiple buttons in the name of simplification is not button bloat... dunno what to say. It's just a mess

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You can address button bloat without simplifying a job. People keep using button bloat as an excuse to make jobs easier and braindead, it’s why we’re in the situation we are now.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Button bloat just sounds like todays excuse to say i’m bad at my job i need them to make it easier so i don’t have to try.

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Honestly, I hate the button bloat argument with a passion unless something actually warrants it. AST has button bloat. There is nothing particularly skillful required to double weave Draw/Play and Minor Arcana/Crown Play during Lightspeed. It's just needless busy work. It's literally no different than Mirage Dive or Pitch Perfect but unlike those skills, AST still has their needless bloat so in this one instance, I will say you're wrong.

the one where Hissatsu: Kaiten got removed but Tenka Goken remained at 280 potency :')

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Honestly, I hate the button bloat argument with a passion unless something actually warrants it. AST has button bloat. There is nothing particularly skillful required to double weave Draw/Play and Minor Arcana/Crown Play during Lightspeed. It's just needless busy work. It's literally no different than Mirage Dive or Pitch Perfect but unlike those skills, AST still has their needless bloat so in this one instance, I will say you're wrong.

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I agree it has button bloat though, but someone basically said them not being simplified means they still have button bloat when the two dont correlate at all. You can have a non-simplified job not be subject to button bloat.

The Misery buff shows that they can go in the right direction, but they forgot Toxikon. Now they need to take these next baby steps for healers, which will probably take 2 expansions.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Honestly, I hate the button bloat argument with a passion unless something actually warrants it. AST has button bloat. There is nothing particularly skillful required to double weave Draw/Play and Minor Arcana/Crown Play during Lightspeed. It's just needless busy work. It's literally no different than Mirage Dive or Pitch Perfect but unlike those skills, AST still has their needless bloat so in this one instance, I will say you're wrong.

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AST feels like it is in a similar place SMN was. A lot of bloat and inefficiency and complication but also one of the best of its role if you can manage all the needless APM.

Which means I am wholly expecting AST to be one of the jobs to get a massive rework in the near future.

None. They turned Mug into a party buff (only 5% target damage for 20 sec.), so now I have to work it into my rotation somehow. (No convenient keys available.) Since it's a 2M cooldown, I suppose I'll just click it instead of trying to find the key each time..

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Originally Posted by Sani2341

Weird way to spell ruined. Imho that WAR change is easily the most unnecessary of the changes in 6.1. going to miss hitting mobs all the way in Narnia with a well aimed Overpower.

As for Favorit Change? Defenitly the WHM lily adjustments. Shows that they can actually listen if Healers complain long enough.

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It's welcome in P3S. Very much welcome.