Oceanic FC rankings for Ravana point out a SERIOUS bot problem.

Look at the name of the FC's and the owners of them past rank 40.

They are all Twin Adder, All level 25 characters and all wearing the exact same outfits.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...=Ravana&gcid=2

It's absurd that this goes unnoticed/unchecked for so long.

I guess we know what all THESE accounts are being used for now. Purchasing FC plots to re-sell on the black market (Or scam innocent people!)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...doaQAYRBwl.png

This needs to be addressed NOW, Manual bans for every single one of these accounts before housing launches next week.



While your at it support, have a look at the top 4 on this list.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cgroup=Materia

They are also bots.

well, someone wants to buy a lot of housing plots with 6.1 to resell the FCs :^)

This really has basically become a ritual any time new servers release.

I remember when Crystal first opened there were so many bots in the starting zones that the instances got filled and nobody neither bot nor actual player could enter them until the GMs were forced to take drastic measures and start purging them.

It's just sad that support will see this, and ignore it like they always do.

Surely its not hard to run a script that looks up level 6 FC's with one member and flag them for manual support interactions (Bans)

The problem with banning them based on criteria like that... is there is nothing inherently against the ToS about leveling a character to 25 and being in an FC... or being in an FC with just 1 player that is rank 6. They'd have to catch those players leveling to 25 in an illegitimate manner or doing something else against the ToS.

Wait?! There a this many bots in the game? But in the weekly report SE hands out they temp bad like 3-5 ppl for botting? Do you think if we report them SE will ban them? Lets all do that! /s

SE does not care ... if they pay a sub. I posted about the fate bots in 2017, none got any temp or perma and the program is still running.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ts-in-the-game
Removing 3-5 ppl TEMP in the entire playerbase per week. Shows how little SE cares about botting.

And lets face it the 3-5 they get are likely flexing in NN with their bot or something. Its not the ones you report.

Not *all* three member FCs are bots. For instance, my friend and I have a 3 member FC [2 of them are my alts] on Ravana and we are certainly not bots. lol. Though I confess I play as bad as one sometimes :P

Is your FC named "HSDYFS" with a level 25 FC leader wearing the exact same outfit as every other FC with a name like "ADSHDYSD", while being the same baseline GC rank, auto-generated name and the exact same creation date as the other FC's?

These are bots & blackmarket sellers.

They need to be removed from the game as soon as humanly possible.

No, my FC is Zodiark's Disciples, we're just waiting for housing to drop so we can *try* for a house lol. Not saying bots aren't a problem, just that "only having three members" is the only sign of being a bot FC.

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The problem with banning them based on criteria like that... is there is nothing inherently against the ToS about leveling a character to 25 and being in an FC... or being in an FC with just 1 player that is rank 6. They'd have to catch those players leveling to 25 in an illegitimate manner or doing something else against the ToS.

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If the ToS worked like that a name like Two Genders would not be against the ToS because it's not profanity, it's not a copyrighted character from another square enix game and it's not a cheated name that uses special characters.
https://i.imgur.com/XQ1ckio.png
it's all about intent and the subjective interpretation of what the intent was by the GMs
in this case you have a pretty clear cut example of something that should easily be subjectively interpreted as botting by the GMs

You need to understand that a) in-game support does not use the forums as part of their job and the b) you need to submit reports in-game for in-game issues. Make an in-game report. Posting on the forums about it isn't going to accomplish anything.

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You need to understand that a) in-game support does not use the forums as part of their job and the b) you need to submit reports in-game for in-game issues. Make an in-game report. Posting on the forums about it isn't going to accomplish anything.

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If reporting bots did something more significant it wouldn't be an issue I'd think. :P The problem is that you will see bots pretty much.. everywhere, and even though you can report, report, report, you'll see the same bots still there, which is why you'll see threads like these pop from time to time. It's more for visibility + frustration, and you can especially feel that for Eureka players since it affects gameplay.

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Originally Posted by Xaphire

You need to understand that a) in-game support does not use the forums as part of their job and the b) you need to submit reports in-game for in-game issues. Make an in-game report. Posting on the forums about it isn't going to accomplish anything.

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You need to understand that in-game support does nothing for botting issues and those are supposed to be submitted to the STF - Special Task Force - team that consists of 4 guys in JP office.

sounds about right

I play on Zurvan from NA,Like playing a solo MMO even Limsa is dead most times.
What I do see is bots lot and lots of them.Gotten to the point that when I hear them go "0" ,I‘ll go 1,2 ect.
What is the point of them saying 0? Always wanted to know that.

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I play on Zurvan from NA,Like playing a solo MMO even Limsa is dead most times.
What I do see is bots lot and lots of them.Gotten to the point that when I hear them go "0" ,I‘ll go 1,2 ect.
What is the point of them saying 0? Always wanted to know that.

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I've never seen bots ever say anything in chat unless they're RMT spam bots in capitals. It could be some kind of weird attempt at avoiding any automatic detection methods that might be in play...?

I've started noticing some...innovative bots that are using more erratic movements that makes them a bit harder to distinguish from actual players, but they still exhibit other red flags like targeting things through walls and/or from extremely far away so it's kind of a moot point.

As I've said from the start, the longer SE delayed Materia housing, the longer the bots have had to level up more and more shell FCs for RMT.

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Originally Posted by Taralyne

I play on Zurvan from NA,Like playing a solo MMO even Limsa is dead most times.
What I do see is bots lot and lots of them.Gotten to the point that when I hear them go "0" ,I‘ll go 1,2 ect.
What is the point of them saying 0? Always wanted to know that.

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"0" is the default keybind for objection interaction/confirmation. (if you use a keyboard and want to give it a try, face a Summoning Bell when you're close to it and hit 0 a few times to see what happens).

If a bot keeps saying "0" in chat, then something has gone with their script. Likely they are not close enough to what they want to interact with or not quite facing it correctly.

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As I've said from the start, the longer SE delayed Materia housing, the longer the bots have had to level up more and more shell FCs for RMT.

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I think Zurvan will be safe enough for now (2 months from now will probably be a different story).

But Sophia definitely, and probably Sephirot, will be having some serious RMT problems due to their populations. The streamer crowds are filled with whales who don't think twice about spending real money and RMT is going to focus on those players.