Stop being dumb on Twitch

I want to preface this by saying I’m not interested in a debate on Twitch or streaming in general. Yet after watching a few a streamers I find it annoying when chat gets (even more) toxic if the person doesn’t “react appropriately” to the story or gush over how FFXIV is the greatest game ever and how it changed their lives. Let people play the game how they want and if you don’t like how they’re playing, find something else to do.

In all seriousness, I doubt that weird part of the XIV community even comes to the forums and there aren't that many people here in general compared to other media platforms like Reddit.

At this point “Find something else to do” will end up becoming a very bad meme for this place.

Uh, okay? Though, this attitude exists on all social media platforms for FFXIV.

I'm too old to know what's going on here. Somebody pass me my prune juice.

What's twitch?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I'm too old to know what's going on here. Somebody pass me my prune juice.

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TLDR viewers get mad at streamers for not reacting to something the same way they did,

HW safety spoiler

Haurchefant's death probably being the easiest way to trigger people if you don't get emotionally destroyed by it.

Little do they know everyone has differing degrees of emotional integrity.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

TLDR viewers get mad at streamers for not reacting to something the same way they did,

HW safety spoiler

Haurchefant's death probably being the easiest way to trigger people if you don't get emotionally destroyed by it.

Little do they know everyone has differing degrees of emotional integrity.

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It's pretty much impossible to have that thing not spoilered if you are a streamer. If there's a character that dies and everytime they are on screen chat spams sad emotes, you'll know.

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Originally Posted by Delily

I want to preface this by saying I’m not interested in a debate on Twitch or streaming in general. Yet after watching a few a streamers I find it annoying when chat gets (even more) toxic if the person doesn’t “react appropriately” to the story or gush over how FFXIV is the greatest game ever and how it changed their lives. Let people play the game how they want and if you don’t like how they’re playing, find something else to do.

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Let people watch the stream how they want and if you don’t like what they’re saying, find something else to do.

Fixed.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

What's twitch?

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A miserable pile of neckbeards, but enough talk, have at you!

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Uh, okay? Though, this attitude exists on all social media platforms for FFXIV.

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Not even limited to XIV. People have said opinions on every fandom.

To be fair, though, the opposite reaction is just as bad. It's pretty common, especially around here, to see people saying that content creators are just faking it or playing to their audience if they show any sign of emotion at all. Maybe they really did get surprised by that story moment even if you didn't. Maybe they really do love that character you don't. Maybe they really did enjoy the story even if you didn't. Just because they don't share your perspective or didn't respond the same way you did (or haven't been playing as long as you have) doesn't mean they're wrong or that they were just faking it.

I feel as though part of this problem comes from people who for some reason feel the need to play up how they felt at certain moments. I see it all the time in various places. Like, "Oh at THIS part I WAS RUINED!! I SOBBEDDDDDD for HOURRS" Like, no you didnt. At most you teared up and maybe a single droplet slid down your cheek, but you werent on your knees pounding on your floor about it. You werent actually in hysterics. You just felt overwhelmed in a good way. I have no idea why people talk like that, but they do. and I know I know, exaggeration. But the problem with that is...if everyone's parroting these exaggerated phrases about how they reacted when they got to certain parts, then when they watch someone get to that same part and react in a completely normal way (like sitting silently and letting it sink in or just laughing), they act all weirded out and like that person must not have been paying attention correctly. They get penalized for not giving the 'proper' and expected response that everyone else claims to have. Get it? If everyone is standing in front of a table saying they see a sheep even though none of them do but they're all saying it to fit in, then the one person to walk in and say "There's nothing there" instead of playing along will look absurd and rude.

That and overall, people are just weird about reactions in general. I dont know, I guess on twitch you're supposed to be like..super outbursty or something. Like, OHHH MY GOD OHHHHHHH OH DID YOU ALL SEE THAT OHHHHHH BLABHLBHLABH-tiring. Most of us sit here with a blank expression. It shouldnt be horrific to see someone else do it. Stop facial expression policing, it's weird.

Imagine watching someone else play videogames

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Originally Posted by Picker

Imagine watching someone else play videogames

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Or sports!.. or Cook!... or sitting there and talking about things!

Why would anyone want to watch people? Ew.

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Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto

Let people watch the stream how they want and if you don’t like what they’re saying, find something else to do.

Fixed.

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If they were watching and venting only to themselves then your comment might have merit. It’s not okay in the slightest for these viewers to be toxic towards someone else for how they play the game. They are being rudely entitled by behaving that way, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Picker

Imagine watching someone else play videogames

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The same could be said about sports. Lol.

This has nothing to do with FFXIV really, it's just Twitch chat being Twitch chat.
If they're playing FFXIV it's obviously going to revolve around that but Twitch chat is notoriously toxic and full of weirdos.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

The same could be said about sports. Lol.

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Or porn :3

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Originally Posted by Jin-

Or porn :3

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Beat me to it....

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Originally Posted by Delily

Stop being dumb on Twitch

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Originally Posted by Delily

I want to preface this by saying I’m not interested in a debate on Twitch

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Sus.

Seriously though, do we really need backlash to some imagined backlash somewhere on the internet?

Sometimes it's so infuriating when the streamer doing the Dead Ends for first time and they fricking missed the 2nd world's missile launcher... They really don't care panning the camera huh?

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

Sus.

Seriously though, do we really need backlash to some imagined backlash somewhere on the internet?

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BUT WE WANT TO BE ANGRY!


As someone who's just been introduced to the Soulsborne fandom... I can say people on twitch just love to tell you how you're playing the game they love wrong.

Don't worry, streamers and the like live off of attention. Also, I doubt any streamer would be surprised that people are garbage thanks to ample first-hand experience. If they wanted to enjoy it, they'd do it alone and on their own time, without any videos. I suppose that doesn't pay the bills though. Just a sacrifice they chose to make.

Your hobby is now your job. Enjoy...

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Originally Posted by Delily

I want to preface this by saying I’m not interested in a debate on Twitch or streaming in general. Yet after watching a few a streamers I find it annoying when chat gets (even more) toxic if the person doesn’t “react appropriately” to the story or gush over how FFXIV is the greatest game ever and how it changed their lives. Let people play the game how they want and if you don’t like how they’re playing, find something else to do.

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If you're there to watch the streamer, the chat room is pointless distraction. Leave the chat room closed/hidden. Problem solved. The only ones who take the toxic drama seriously are people who feed on toxic drama.

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

Don't worry, streamers and the like live off of attention.

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Certainly its true of some streamers but not all. Some are just entertainers doing a job and they don't care about what gets said in their chat rooms beyond the entertainment value it adds to the stream. They've usually got moderators on hand killing anything truly inappropriate in the chat.

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Originally Posted by Delily

I want to preface this by saying I’m not interested in a debate on Twitch or streaming in general. Yet after watching a few a streamers I find it annoying when chat gets (even more) toxic if the person doesn’t “react appropriately” to the story or gush over how FFXIV is the greatest game ever and how it changed their lives. Let people play the game how they want and if you don’t like how they’re playing, find something else to do.

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That's what happens when emotions become royal edicts.

Sports and porn are just different, people watch sports to watch top athletes play and porn uh well.
People watch porn when sex isn't directly available whether in a relationship or not ( your significant other isn't going to be horny and willing at the same time as you every time you are ).
The argument only really makes sense if we're talking about pro E-sports players, it becomes a lot sketchier when we don't and especially when we talk about story-driven games.
Very few Streamers are actually top players and they're not the biggest ones either.

Quite a lot of Twitch is just drama too and like a reality tv-show with people who have insanely huge egos and have mental breakdowns about everything.
Twitch Streamers themselves on a whole aren't normal people, most of the big ones are adult young teenagers.
They got popular when they were teens and they never grew up because they've lived on Twitch, it's pretty apparent when you compare them to actual adults who weren't kids when they started streaming.
I dunno if I want to name names because people get mad if you say anything about their favorite Streamer, but holy hell.
The toxicity and brain rot that is Twitch is something the Streamers themselves have essentially created and perpetuated.

I watch Twitch too, not very often and only a very limited amount of Streams but I have it on as background noise and in regards to FFXIV I just like to see peoples reactions to it.
I am not insanely attached to them tho it's the same with Youtube too I've stopped watching people entirely because they just started to frustrate me.
I dunno why really, I just enjoy it.
It's like how I can't understand why people get so upset and triggered by sexualized content while I enjoy it, who knows?
You enjoy what you enjoy or don't enjoy what you don't enjoy, there's not always some deep reason behind it.