Some being mean to devs for their style. Forget you are also a product of your time.

It's not uniquely about a generational gap and style that may appear outdated or foreign, with different codes and manners to you, but those of you who think you are original by being in the multitude criticizing job's style (like reaper) by stating they are too edgy, emo, or dark metal with a touch of old fashion cringe for your tastes, lest you forget that you will very probably also face much harsher criticism from your younglings and childrens of the future, if not already now, for the same type of "sins" you might only think you percieve.

Let that be clear, from the uniform of the firefighter and policeman wears, to the tie and blue shirt of the trader and buisenessmen, to the fursuit and s*x toys that are sold surrounding these themes and hippies accessories and clothing...

You were all made by the system and programmed at some point to become exactly what you are within the confine of the system, and standardized to become a "customer" and a consumer of these things. And to your childrens and future generations that may be standardized in an ever digitalized world to be brought up in robotics, transhumanism, more and more coding and everything digital or augmented reality, your programmed "likings" and tendancies, in every aspect, art, clothing, ways of thinking, line of thinking, of doing things, will be shamed all but the same ways if not harsher, with more hurting words and definitions that you wouldn't believe someone could come up to for these times will also be so different and out of your "touch" that you may also feel hurt from the judgement.

So, maybe remember that even older folks that are part of any dev teams, have had their tastes CODED and programmed by the system, movies, literrature, yada yada also, of their times and allways driven by the need of the system, at any given time of the era, and the individual's ways and personality are always formed by the drippling consequences of theses ways the system perpetuate, adapt to, and transform and make into clothing codes, a visual style, a mode, a product, a merchandise of it's time.

The lack of care and respect you are showing them, i wouldn't exactly call it elderly abuse of course but, it will be the exact mirror you will face later on in life for your personal likings, you can rest assured it will be 2000% the case. So maybe try to keep it in mind, find some consideration for the things they found beautyfull and interesting in their eras, and if it's not to your liking, try to express it with some modicum of respect, or maybe just move on because we can allways put some water in our wine and respect our elders, "tolerate" them. Because most of you probably already do it with your parents after a certain age, and your grandparents too.

Thanks, I feel old now.

I agree. People who abuse words such as "edgy and cringe" add nothing of value to any discussion. These are words used when you don't have an actual arguement but still want everyone to notice you. Screams of insecurity and a lack of proper reflective ability.

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I agree. People who abuse words such as "edgy and cringe" add nothing of value to any discussion. These are words used when you don't have an actual arguement but still want everyone to notice you. Screams of insecurity and a lack of proper reflective ability.

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oooh so edgy :p

I don't think I've ever met anyone describing Yoshi-P's style as anything but "cool", tbh.

I don't know where that rant is coming from, but I do think younger generations absolutely do not care about anyone's style or likings, at least less so than older ones. I've met far more judgemental 30-40 years old people than 20.

People going out of their way to call things edgy or cringe are pretty often called out for it, where I come from, and while we may say things are edgy or cringe, we just leave it be. Maybe you're just putting too much focus on toxic people.

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Originally Posted by Katt_Felista

It's not uniquely about a generational gap and style that may appear outdated or foreign, with different codes and manners to you, but those of you who think you are original by being in the multitude criticizing job's style (like reaper) by stating they are too edgy, emo, or dark metal with a touch of old fashion cringe for your tastes, lest you forget that you will very probably also face much harsher criticism from your younglings and childrens of the future, if not already now, for the same type of "sins" you might only think you percieve.

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So cringe, lol.

the lord must have mercy on me for the restraint I require to not make cringe/ok boomer comments

I really don't understand the OP's out-of-nowhere outburst

Anyway, I have grand-kids, so I think I can post this and tell the young'un who started the thread to sit down and behave.

https://i.gyazo.com/df1b6b7e4d9acf2c...10a3acc6bb.jpg

What is this thread about? I'm confuzzeled...

Probably about that thing that happened with Ubisoft and Elden Ring.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Probably about that thing that happened with Ubisoft and Elden Ring.

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What happened, though ?

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Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe

What happened, though ?

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yeah what happened. Now I'm intriqued

I haven't seen anyone be critical of reaper. Most people think it's cool and it's a very popular job.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I haven't seen anyone be critical of reaper. Most people think it's cool and it's a very popular job.

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It cuts off racial features. Unplayable.

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Originally Posted by Katt_Felista

It's not uniquely about a generational gap and style that may appear outdated or foreign, with different codes and manners to you, but those of you who think you are original by being in the multitude criticizing job's style (like reaper) by stating they are too edgy, emo, or dark metal with a touch of old fashion cringe for your tastes, lest you forget that you will very probably also face much harsher criticism from your younglings and childrens of the future, if not already now, for the same type of "sins" you might only think you percieve.

Let that be clear, from the uniform of the firefighter and policeman wears, to the tie and blue shirt of the trader and buisenessmen, to the fursuit and s*x toys that are sold surrounding these themes and hippies accessories and clothing...

You were all made by the system and programmed at some point to become exactly what you are within the confine of the system, and standardized to become a "customer" and a consumer of these things. And to your childrens and future generations that may be standardized in an ever digitalized world to be brought up in robotics, transhumanism, more and more coding and everything digital or augmented reality, your programmed "likings" and tendancies, in every aspect, art, clothing, ways of thinking, line of thinking, of doing things, will be shamed all but the same ways if not harsher, with more hurting words and definitions that you wouldn't believe someone could come up to for these times will also be so different and out of your "touch" that you may also feel hurt from the judgement.

So, maybe remember that even older folks that are part of any dev teams, have had their tastes CODED and programmed by the system, movies, literrature, yada yada also, of their times and allways driven by the need of the system, at any given time of the era, and the individual's ways and personality are always formed by the drippling consequences of theses ways the system perpetuate, adapt to, and transform and make into clothing codes, a visual style, a mode, a product, a merchandise of it's time.

The lack of care and respect you are showing them, i wouldn't exactly call it elderly abuse of course but, it will be the exact mirror you will face later on in life for your personal likings, you can rest assured it will be 2000% the case. So maybe try to keep it in mind, find some consideration for the things they found beautyfull and interesting in their eras, and if it's not to your liking, try to express it with some modicum of respect, or maybe just move on because we can allways put some water in our wine and respect our elders, "tolerate" them. Because most of you probably already do it with your parents after a certain age, and your grandparents too.

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I have just one question: What the **** are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

I have just one question: What the **** are you talking about?

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I know it. :)


Cheers

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It cuts off racial features. Unplayable.

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Just another reason to Fantasia into a Lala ;)

https://i.gyazo.com/0350db5d918e7713...f694ddd9a0.jpg

We even keep our facepaint!

The age old... Whatever you gonna call it.

Remember how we never wanted to be like our parents?~

Also everything is better than coloured shoes and tight jeans, really.

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Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe

What happened, though ?

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Originally Posted by hagare

yeah what happened. Now I'm intriqued

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TL;DR: ubisoft criticized elden ring user reviewed success (only 3 devs from the company), internet initiated online backlash. Here's vid for details: https://youtu.be/tdSfzsHf-Tc

So basically, they took shit for being jealous or whatever, and since some people attacked them on their appearance, we got this thread ?

Internet really is bored.

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I don't know where that rant is coming from

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I really don't understand the OP's out-of-nowhere outburst

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What is this thread about? I'm confuzzeled...

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I have no idea either and I'm not going to try to fathom that wall of text, but it's from the same poster who made multiple threads trying to spread proofless conspiracy theories about streamers and trolls sabotaging PF, or whatever it was exactly. So... draw your own conclusions.

What's the matter with the job I'm playing can't you tell that sword's too big?
Maybe I should play an old tab target that was cool when these kids were ten?
Where you been hiding out lately honey, you can't glam trashy till you spend a lot of money.

Everybody's talking about the new game baby but it's still X I V for me.

What's the matter with the bird I'm driving can't you tell that it's out of style?
Should I get a mount from the mogstation, are you gonna cruise miracle mile?
Nowadays you can't be too sentimental your best bet baby's sitting in the Choco stable.

Reaper edge, Lala cringe, Emo fringe, Zoomer kids, it's still X I V for me.

Nothing like confusion in the morn'

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TL;DR: ubisoft criticized elden ring user reviewed success (only 3 devs from the company), internet initiated online backlash. Here's vid for details: https://youtu.be/tdSfzsHf-Tc

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I don't think it's about the Elden Ring thing. It just doesn't match up with what the OP is saying (which seems to be about looks and aesthetic). :B

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TL;DR: ubisoft criticized elden ring user reviewed success (only 3 devs from the company), internet initiated online backlash. Here's vid for details: https://youtu.be/tdSfzsHf-Tc

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It was a few salty employees from different game developers Guerilla games , UBisoft


it wasnt UBISOFT as a whole

You contradict your own post in the same sentence and with the link you posted with a clickbait sentence

Do you work for kotuku?

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I have no idea either and I'm not going to try to fathom that wall of text, but it's from the same poster who made multiple threads trying to spread proofless conspiracy theories about streamers and trolls sabotaging PF, or whatever it was exactly. So... draw your own conclusions.

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Probably an angry WoW dev that is playing FF14

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Nothing like confusion in the morn'

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Honey Bunches of Strokes

I have no idea what the hell is happening.

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I have no idea either and I'm not going to try to fathom that wall of text, but it's from the same poster who made multiple threads trying to spread proofless conspiracy theories about streamers and trolls sabotaging PF, or whatever it was exactly. So... draw your own conclusions.

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PROOFLESS?! Everyone knows that streamers work with the RMT people to ban people from PF groups so that they have to pay for clears!

Morpheus, is that you ?

N-no, it couldn't be. Morpheus would never spout generalisations about an entire generation and pose false correlations based on confirmation bias of a forum where people of unknown demographics come to complain.

You are his brother.
Dorpheus.

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I agree. People who abuse words such as "edgy and cringe" add nothing of value to any discussion. These are words used when you don't have an actual arguement but still want everyone to notice you. Screams of insecurity and a lack of proper reflective ability.

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Whenever people say '' scantily clad '' it sounds like a grandma speaking to me lol.
Ultimately these are such pointless and subjective words that really means nothing in the end.
No one is forced to play something and no one is entitled to have everything in existence catered to them personally.

Imo I personally think that most military shooters are kinda cringe with the skull masks and tacticool gear with people larping as actual military and using military lingo, the difference is that I simply don't play the games I don't go to the forums for those games and tell them how cringe it is to me.
A lot of people who are into those games also find anything that's '' fantasy '' cringe too.
Who actually gives a shit.

People can have opinions that's fine but I think when people throw those subjective opinions in peoples face just for the sake of being an asshole then that's precisely what they are and they shouldn't act surprised when they get pushback.
I see this a ton from people too with FFXIV and I've seen it since ARR where people make fun of the game because of '' catgirls '' and call it a '' cringey weeb game '' etc.
Okay?
To me it's cringe that they feel the need to make a big deal out of it instead of just shrugging and playing a different game.
I just don't understand this need of pestering people about this some people have it's really annoying.

It's worth remembering too that playing video games altogether was '' cringe and for icky nerds '' not very long ago at all.
When I was a kid and teenager it sure as hell wasn't '' normal '' or '' cool '' it didn't matter what game it was it was looked down on.

Wait, is the person who went on rants about how the devs and multiple content creators were secretly in league with RMTers and they were the only one who had the evidence of it posting this, too?

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PROOFLESS?! Everyone knows that streamers work with the RMT people to ban people from PF groups so that they have to pay for clears!

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And streamers have a privilege to bypass queues if the server is full!

OMG! I guess, i should become a streamer too.


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen

It was a few salty employees from different game developers Guerilla games , UBisoft


it wasnt UBISOFT as a whole

You contradict your own post in the same sentence and with the link you posted with a clickbait sentence

Do you work for kotuku?

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I mean, that's what TL;DR exists for but yeah sure, I work for "kotuku". It's a nice cushy job and I get paid to guess the source of rantings of conspiracy theorists.

You should apply. Great benefits, uwu.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

I have just one question: What the **** are you talking about?

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So much this. There is simply no context in that garbled text.

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

So much this. There is simply no context in that garbled text.

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There is a context.

The OP basically says: FF14 ARR is a game with a 2013-ish spirit of time. And some players blame the devs for it.


Cheers

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Wait, is the person who went on rants about how the devs and multiple content creators were secretly in league with RMTers and they were the only one who had the evidence of it posting this, too?

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It is indeed the very same person. I'd recognize that name anywhere.

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There is a context.

The OP basically says: FF14 ARR is a game with a 2013-ish spirit of time. And some players blame the devs for it.


Cheers

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The way you put it is not at all a bad argument that could be well debated.
But when you start insulting the playerbase calling them cringe, emo, and edgy, youngings, children, elderly, OPs argument is now big dumb about ageism.

Look at the youtubes for example - youtubers who don't change with the times fade out of existence.
This is why YoshiP knows that this game cannot continue for long and the fact he acknowledges that is the sign of an intelligent product owner

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I mean, that's what TL;DR exists for but yeah sure, I work for "kotuku". It's a nice cushy job and I get paid to guess the source of rantings of conspiracy theorists.

You should apply. Great benefits, uwu.

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Awesome , I like making jokes and get paid for it too , so ill apply soon. I'll go get the suit dry cleaned.

Is... Is this about the style of gear or like, their irl fashion choices??? Like what does reaper being edgy have to do with foreign or outdated styles? What? I'm confused

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Is... Is this about the style of gear or like, their irl fashion choices??? Like what does reaper being edgy have to do with foreign or outdated styles? What? I'm confused

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Join the club. It's because we're products of our time.

I'm too old to understand half of the lingo kids these days use...I'll just sit her sipping my coffee and yelling at you kids to get off my lawn now.