Increase Membership limits per Cross World Linkshell

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We have been at 8 cwls slots since Shadowbringers drop over two years ago now, but each one is limited to only 64 members. It would be so much better for coordination in a variety of areas (rp, raid, hunting) if the limit was increased to 128 like regular ls. Heck, I'd even take a dozen+ members per cwl at this rate because the ones I'm in keep hitting max membership.

Editing to add my most recent epiphany;

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Originally Posted by Louvain

It also just occurred to me that Novice network has something like, what, over 200 members at any given time? Free companies can also, theoretically, have 500 people in fc chat at a time *AND* fc chat is crossworld. So having larger capacity for linkshells should definitely be feasible if they tinker around with it enough.

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free double post to bump, but to elaborate more on the hunting side specifically;

Anyone in a large hunting network have their cwls look like this;

https://i.imgur.com/K6BdO2U.png
and that's not even an endwalker s rank

The more people one tries to accommodate when hunting (be it for s ranks, or a ranks) end up having their chat spammed more and more because man rely on macros to relay reliable across the board to get all the cwls their informed. Or having to copy paste coordination efforts (asking multiple train cwls who is going next, etc) to make sure information is spread properly because a cwl couldn't fit everyone.

Please. T_T

Bumping again in light of the liveletter;

With the ability to add people from data centers to cwls come 6.18/6.2, I think it more important than ever that they be expanded to hold more members!

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CWLSs being capped at half the member limit of normal linkshells feels extremely strict. I run into this both for S rank spawning and with Aether's Baldesian Arsenal community and it makes it actively harder for us to be as inclusive as we want to be.

World travel has pushed us towards having the whole data-center act as a single community, but the teeny tiny capacity on CWLSs is a direct and frustrating impediment to this :(

The member limits in this game always seemed so backwards. If anything FC's should have the lowest max number and CWL's should have the highest limit. Obviously it would be nice if everything had a like 1,000 limit but I think 300-500 on local LS's and 300-1000 on CWL would be enough for most LS's.

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Originally Posted by Xeia

CWLSs being capped at half the member limit of normal linkshells feels extremely strict. I run into this both for S rank spawning and with Aether's Baldesian Arsenal community and it makes it actively harder for us to be as inclusive as we want to be.

World travel has pushed us towards having the whole data-center act as a single community, but the teeny tiny capacity on CWLSs is a direct and frustrating impediment to this :(

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Ya, the fact that so many communities had to move to discord is very telling on how limited in game communication is in this game. An large increase in size across the board is severely needed.

I'm inclined to believe it's not intentional, and merely a temporary limitation as SE works on upgrading the back end


Still, it's good to raise awareness on the issue and how much a resolution would be appreciated

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Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7

I'm inclined to believe it's not intentional, and merely a temporary limitation as SE works on upgrading the back end


Still, it's good to raise awareness on the issue and how much a resolution would be appreciated

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We literally have zero size increases since LS's came out. How long do you consider temporary? lol

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

We literally have zero size increases sense LS's came out. How long do you consider temporary? lol

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14's development is very busy
It's likely simply not a priority

Also that isn't quite true
Initially players were only allowed to join one CWLS

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

Ya, the fact that so many communities had to move to discord is very telling on how limited in game communication is in this game. An large increase in size across the board is severely needed.

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This^. Discord is a nice, large alternative, but linkshell messages will always be noticed faster (especially for playstation players, which make up a significant amount of playerbase).

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Originally Posted by Ath192

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I am nothing if not bound and determined. Maybe if SE sees that this is something we really, really want, they will prioritize it :)

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Originally Posted by Louvain

This^. Discord is a nice, large alternative, but linkshell messages will always be noticed faster (especially for playstation players, which make up a significant amount of playerbase).



I am nothing if not bound and determined. Maybe if SE sees that this is something we really, really want, they will prioritize it :)

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I’m glad it picked up haha. Third times a charm.

Definitely an increased limit would be a welcome thing. The fewer members a linkshell can hold, the greater the number of linkshells that need to be created to reach the community. That ends up adding to chat spam as more messages need to be created.

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

We literally have zero size increases since LS's came out. How long do you consider temporary? lol

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YoshiP mentioned around the time that cross world linkshells were added that they had tried to increase same world linkshell limits from 128 to 256 but it caused their internal testing servers to crash. Maybe it's a problem that they're still trying to solve, or something that will be dependent on their future infrastructure upgrades.

But if same world can handle 128, you would think that cross world should be able to handle the same limit.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Definitely an increased limit would be a welcome thing. The fewer members a linkshell can hold, the greater the number of linkshells that need to be created to reach the community. That ends up adding to chat spam as more messages need to be created.

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And eventually, the newer linkshells that have to be made are isolated from older ones, which creates a communication gap.

Another week, another bump. My CWL chat spam from relays is not getting any better!

Liveletter was this past weekend and still no word about possible LS size increases, so another bump for the thread it is.

Servers will explode.

bump! i agree with the increased CWLS capacities and more slots please. all my local linkshells are just hunt linkshells specific to my server. all my friends and the communities im part of use CWLS when chatting even with people from the same server.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

YoshiP mentioned around the time that cross world linkshells were added that they had tried to increase same world linkshell limits from 128 to 256 but it caused their internal testing servers to crash. Maybe it's a problem that they're still trying to solve, or something that will be dependent on their future infrastructure upgrades.

But if same world can handle 128, you would think that cross world should be able to handle the same limit.

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I would prefer it if they focused their efforts on increasing cross world linkshell capacity to at least 256, simply because they have more uses than regular linkshells.

Joining in the chorus. Please prioritize this!

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

Ya, the fact that so many communities had to move to discord is very telling on how limited in game communication is in this game. An large increase in size across the board is severely needed.

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I don't think at this point there's any online game out there not without a more active Discord scene TBH.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I would prefer it if they focused their efforts on increasing cross world linkshell capacity to at least 256, simply because they have more uses than regular linkshells.

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idk about 256 seeing as how we're still at 64, but I do agree that if I had to pick, I would prioritize cwl expansion over regular ls as they are just much more flexible and useful.

(weekly bump) It also just occurred to me that Novice network has something like, what, over 200 members at any given time? Free companies can also, theoretically, have 500 people in fc chat at a time *AND* fc chat is crossworld. So having larger capacity for linkshells should definitely be feasible if they tinker around with it enough.

Attention Square-Enix : This issue needs to be made a priority.

Having the CWLS size so restrictive is forcing people to be selective and discriminatory about the people they allow in their CWLS and causes extreme social anxiety when it becomes obvious that you have been excluded - intentionally or not - from interacting and participating with friends in the game. People are suffering because of a number - this is a bigger issue than just communicating hunt information - you're promoting discrimination and exclusionary practices.