Au Ra Raen Class

Hello there. I am new here and to the game, currently playing Au Ra. I would like to know what class, storywise, fits them the most?

Since I am still in Heavensward (beggining) and have not seen any Au Ra but the Ninja one, I do not know what class or job is mostly seen around them or they excel the most (Storywise, I know I could be any class).

I heard Samurai, and is what I am playing now. Are there others?

Thank you in advance!

Everything. Unlike WoW, every race here can be everything and everything actually fits them. Well... most does.
Many jobs in-game are either: "We're too few and you're chosen to represent us!" or "We want to teach the world about our job and you're our first step to that!"

I agree. In wow there are many. For example, Night Elves can be many classes but mostly you will see them as Archers, Priests or Druids.

Is there nothing similar with the races here? Like... Au Ra can be every class but they are mostly... Ninjas or another one? I play my main class which is Dragoon, but seeking a very fitting class or job storywise. Though if there is not one, I think that's pretty alright as well.

The Raen form a diaspora that spans pretty much the entirety of the Three Great Continents. There are enclaves in the Ruby Sea and Werlyt is/was a population center, but with them basically anything will work.

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Originally Posted by LSelf

I agree. In wow there are many. For example, Night Elves can be many classes but mostly you will see them as Archers, Priests or Druids.

Is there nothing similar with the races here? Like... Au Ra can be every class but they are mostly... Ninjas or another one? I play my main class which is Dragoon, but seeking a very fitting class or job storywise. Though if there is not one, I think that's pretty alright as well.

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If you do SB MSQ you'll know it's more complicated than that. The Au'ra, and especially the Raen integrate themselves with the countries and lands they migrate to.
I think this is actually intentional by the devs so players who want to roleplay as Au'ra don't have to stick to one or two jobs but feel free to take up whatever they want.

If you're wanting a lore-accurate job, then I should point out that the raen don't really fight. Most of them live in hidden, hard to access settlements. The only notable raen I can think of who does fight is a ninja.

However, Au Ra in general do fit many jobs. Your dark knight job trainer for higher levels is an Au Ra, and there are major story characters who are warriors, black mages, and bards, and we see minor characters fighting with swords and with katanas.

"The ninja one" is the most notable Raen, and one of the few to have an identifiable job.
If you've left the main settlements, you're already a bit weird by Raen standards. So take anything you want.
Nothing wrong with sticking with the Dragoon job the forums say you have. Even if the Ishgard-types think you're descended from evil dragons. (You aren't).

Gameplay wise, practically everyone will try out multiple classes, and it's not uncommon at all to level all 19 on the same character.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

If you're wanting a lore-accurate job, then I should point out that the raen don't really fight. Most of them live in hidden, hard to access settlements. The only notable raen I can think of who does fight is a ninja.

However, Au Ra in general do fit many jobs. Your dark knight job trainer for higher levels is an Au Ra, and there are major story characters who are warriors, black mages, and bards, and we see minor characters fighting with swords and with katanas.

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Not every Raen hides as the current ruling race in Hingashi are the Raen. Then there's Radz-at-Han where we see various Au Ra as part of the Raidient Host weilding Swords and Shields. Lore wise I'd put them under the Gladiator umbrella as Paladins and Free Paladins are more of an Ul'dah thing. Au Ra can also be conjures as one shows up in the HW WHM story. But yes OP Au Ra seen in the story have been just about any job. It just depends on how strict you want to be with what you find acceptable. Just always switch over to the job if you choose a class that you don't see an Au Ra portray as said job. Also just know that npcs tend to cheat when it comes to skill use.

Ninja and Samurai

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Not every Raen hides as the current ruling race in Hingashi are the Raen.

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Can you cite this? I don't recall the Mitsurugi clan's race being mentioned anywhere. Nor the Hingan emperor's.

There are four main places we have seen or know of Raen populations so far:

Doma and Hingashi – Japanese-based culture. Some are city dwellers, some live in isolated villages. Naturally the ninja and samurai jobs originate from here, but you're also going to find people wielding other weapons like bows and spears, or magic. (While not a playable job, geomancers are seen in a few quests and they seem to be essentially conjurers by another name.) You may want to research historical Japanese weaponry if you want your character to come from here.

The Azim Steppe – Mongolian-based and primarily home to the Xaela tribes, but we know at least one (Malaguld) will take in Raen exiles, and the Kha are generally interested in making contact with foreign cultures.

Thavnair – Indian/Persian. The only job specifically originating from here is dancer, but again they have all sorts of weaponry. I can think of characters wielding swords, spears and daggers, and mages as well.

Werlyt – vaguely defined European-based area in the central continent of Ilsabard, occupied by the Garleans. We only meet a few characters from there and I don't think any were shown with playable jobs, so you can make up whatever you want, really.


Ultimately, anywhere that has a dungeon or has ever had a gearset themed around its clothing style will have themed weapons for most/all classes, so you can make an argument for all of the jobs existing anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

Can you cite this? I don't recall the Mitsurugi clan's race being mentioned anywhere. Nor the Hingan emperor's.

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I don't have a source for that particular quote, but I can point out the ninja quests – "Princess Yuki of the Yatsurugi clan" is known to Oboro, so they are not hidden away. She seems to be from Hingashi.

Also from memory there are Auri enemies in the Hingashi Castle dungeon.

jobs dont come ftom specific races but from certain areas. so i guess we could assume most dragoons in this world are elezen since dragoons originate from ishgard which is mainly an elezen city.

there is nothing coming to mind for raen au ra though.

maybe samurai as a job from hingashi or dancer from thavnair

I'm glad someone brought this up, because I've been thinking of a similar question. I love coming up with headcanon for my character for RP and for personal use as I travel across Hydaelin, especially when creating my own NPCs.

How much do we know of the New World? I know it's the homeland of the Mamool Ja and the Whalaqee tribe, but there has to be more to it than those. Would it be safe to assume that Miqo'te may have traveled there during the Age of Endless Frost? I was thinking of a Miqo'te adventurer who would be from the New World, maybe from a village or even a large city.

Classes/jobs fitting certain races sometimes becomes a question in my mind, too, like how the heck Lalafell can be tanks, but I wouldn't worry too much about that. With the way the over-arcing story is set up, anything can be anything. Lalafells can even be tanks. Just look at Pipin.

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Originally Posted by LSelf

Hello there. I am new here and to the game, currently playing Au Ra. I would like to know what class, storywise, fits them the most?

Since I am still in Heavensward (beggining) and have not seen any Au Ra but the Ninja one, I do not know what class or job is mostly seen around them or they excel the most (Storywise, I know I could be any class).

I heard Samurai, and is what I am playing now. Are there others?

Thank you in advance!

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Raen can be anything, but the most lore consistent Jobs for Raen are the Eastern ones, Ninja and Samurai in particular.

Raen clans are a sociological retainer caste. Clans raise their children to be professional warriors and bodyguards, and hire them out on contract to the lords of the East. They are likely born under contract, if we're to assume the same formal responsibilities of samurai retainers during the Japanese shogunate applies to at least some of these relationships.

"Believing themselves the children of the Dawn Father, the forebears of the Raen left behind their homeland to settle across Othard. They were received with hatred and hostility by other races in the early years, until a prominent warlord of Yanxia, impressed with their valor, forged an alliance with the strange race and took them on as retainers. Before long, the Raen had assumed a prominent role as warriors in the service of countless great warlords. Some ventured across the sea to the Far East, where they earned a reputation as legendary swordmasters."

-Encyclopaedia Eorzea vol. I, p. 91

"The Raen have fully assimilated to the cultures of Doma and Hingashi, and live faithfully according to the regions' traditions. Perhaps owing to their heritage and the status they gained in the service of their warlords, they place particular importance on hierarchy and the master-servant relationship."

-Encyclopaedia Eorzea vol. I, p. 91

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Originally Posted by wereotter

If you're wanting a lore-accurate job, then I should point out that the raen don't really fight. Most of them live in hidden, hard to access settlements. The only notable raen I can think of who does fight is a ninja.

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Pure baloney. Where did you even come up with this?

Samurai and Ninja are the quintessentially Far Eastern jobs, though they also have their own form of thaumaturgy mixed in with divination (onmyojutsu) and conjury (geomancy; some commonalities with astromancy, too.) Although this game lacks racial archetypes to the degree WoW does, any of those jobs would fit. Thavnairian specialisations wound fit well too if you're going with that as a background.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

If you're wanting a lore-accurate job, then I should point out that the raen don't really fight. Most of them live in hidden, hard to access settlements. The only notable raen I can think of who does fight is a ninja.

However, Au Ra in general do fit many jobs. Your dark knight job trainer for higher levels is an Au Ra, and there are major story characters who are warriors, black mages, and bards, and we see minor characters fighting with swords and with katanas.

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I wouldn't say that's quite accurate - from vol 2 of the EE:

https://i.imgur.com/KB4cl0w.jpg

And even in Sui-no-Sato, the palace had its guards.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

Can you cite this? I don't recall the Mitsurugi clan's race being mentioned anywhere. Nor the Hingan emperor's.

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Even if they were, it wouldn't matter, because Hingashi is ruled by the bakufu, a military government. The imperial household is more of a figurehead.

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Originally Posted by Floortank

Raen can be anything, but the most lore consistent Jobs for Raen are the Eastern ones, Ninja and Samurai in particular.

Raen clans are a sociological retainer caste. Clans raise their children to be professional warriors and bodyguards, and hire them out on contract to the lords of the East. They are likely born under contract, if we're to assume the same formal responsibilities of samurai retainers during the Japanese shogunate applies to at least some of these relationships.

"Believing themselves the children of the Dawn Father, the forebears of the Raen left behind their homeland to settle across Othard. They were received with hatred and hostility by other races in the early years, until a prominent warlord of Yanxia, impressed with their valor, forged an alliance with the strange race and took them on as retainers. Before long, the Raen had assumed a prominent role as warriors in the service of countless great warlords. Some ventured across the sea to the Far East, where they earned a reputation as legendary swordmasters."

-Encyclopaedia Eorzea vol. I, p. 91

"The Raen have fully assimilated to the cultures of Doma and Hingashi, and live faithfully according to the regions' traditions. Perhaps owing to their heritage and the status they gained in the service of their warlords, they place particular importance on hierarchy and the master-servant relationship."

-Encyclopaedia Eorzea vol. I, p. 91

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Ah vol 1, no wonder I couldn't find those.

Most jobs' lore is not tied to any race aside from maybe gunbreaker that would make more sense for Hrothgar and maybe dragoon for Elezen/hyur since it originate from Ishgard.
You have some jobs that lore wise are mainly limited to your character like white mage where aside from Padjals nobody exept the warrior of light could get their hands on a job crystal or black mage where only a few individuals get access to a crystal since using black magic is illegal due to its history.
And on the other hand you've got paladins handing over their job crystals like tic tac.

If you want something that tie more to a RP that would fit a Raen that is not initially an adventurer I guess Samurai, Ninja or Dancer would be your best bet considering most of the other jobs got resurrected recently out of necessity in Eorzea.
If you want to go solely with the weapon type, chances are a Raen could've picked up pretty much any weapon where they're from aside from the specific ones like gun/gunblade, red mage's swordstaff, summoner/scholar's book and Sage's nouliths.

But as long as you find a reason why your character would have got their hands on a job crystal you can safely play any job without worrying about it since the whole point of a job crystal is to transfer the knowledge stored within it to someone able to attune with the crystal.

Lore-wise, jobs are usually more tied to locations than races. For example, most dragoons tend to be elezen or hyur because they're from Ishgard, not out of any intrinsic racial specialization. About the only exception I can think of offhand is white mage, which is supposed to be restricted to Padjals after the War of the Magi caused a Calamity; the player can do it anyway, because main character plot power, yo.

The player is always treated as an outlier when picking up a new job anyway, usually arriving in just the nick of time and showing enough promise to impress someone into handing you a job crystal.

Woa, many replies and very varied. From every job to Samurai/Ninja. Learned a little about the race as well. So most Raen are scattered, but the Xaela held their domains?

Traveling around the world looks interesting to my RP, as I plan on making him just that, a [Insert X foreign class here] that arrived/retired in Gridania and is learning a new art (Lancer or anything).

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I don't have a source for that particular quote, but I can point out the ninja quests – "Princess Yuki of the Yatsurugi clan" is known to Oboro, so they are not hidden away. She seems to be from Hingashi.

Also from memory there are Auri enemies in the Hingashi Castle dungeon.

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While I quoted the entire sentence, my interest was in the claim that "the current ruling race in Hingashi are the Raen". Which would mean either the Mitsurugi clan or the imperial family, depending on the view one takes of it.

In regards to Yuki Yatsurugi, while hime is often localised as princess, it does not necessarily indicate that the individual is the daughter of a monarch in Japanese use. In this case, presuming hime (姫) is used and not oujo (王女), or I suppose denka (殿下) if she's part of the imperial family, it is more than likely meant to indicate that Yuki Yatsurugi is simply of noble birth.

The Auri (and Hyuran) enemies are ronin/shinobi hired by Kageyama for his takeover of Kugane Castle. The Au Ra also Xaela for some reason.

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Originally Posted by LSelf

Woa, many replies and very varied. From every job to Samurai/Ninja. Learned a little about the race as well. So most Raen are scattered, but the Xaela held their domains?

Traveling around the world looks interesting to my RP, as I plan on making him just that, a [Insert X foreign class here] that arrived/retired in Gridania and is learning a new art (Lancer or anything).

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The world is your oyster to do with as you wish. It is whatever you decide to make it from an RP perspective since you can be whatever race you want and play any job that you want.

probably ninja, samurai, or dancer

Race lore and class lore is extremely loose in this game. You can be a whatever and play whatever and it'll make perfect sense, because they choose to be vague about player race culture. NPC races may have a quirk or two when it comes to the ideas of certain classes (example: Pure-blooded Garleans cannot use magic, and some fear it), but not so for player races.

Even if there were such cultural restrictions for certain races, the PC is supposed to be a unique entity, so you could do anything without worrying whether it makes sense or not for a given race anyway.

Player races are spread out all over the globe to boot, so you can be from anywhere.. The Xaela live in the Azim Steppe, and the Raen have littered themselves through the Far East, but both can also be found in Thavnair with different cultures.

The viera are about the only race with a set origin point, but even then they're given an out. The ones who leave the Golmore Jungle/Skatay Mountain Range simply go wherever and adopt the cultures and even naming conventions of the places they settle in.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

Can you cite this? I don't recall the Mitsurugi clan's race being mentioned anywhere. Nor the Hingan emperor's.

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The clan is like Lauront says is treated as a figurehead and that the Bakufu are the ones who are pulling the strings. I don't have a direct citation, but I do know in a few quests that people have stated that those in charge aka the Bakufu are Raen or at least enough of them are to make a remark about it. Also I doubt Yuki Yatsurugi's bodyguard wouldn't call her a princess if she wasn't one. Then there is the Ruby Princess who rules over Sui-no-Sato.

Obviously lots of replies already, but storywise they are major parts of Stormblood, specifically the Asian areas (Azem steppe, especially).

So your “fits” job would easily be samurai, ninja..but also something “Mongolian-esque” like a spear user or archer.

Even then, you will find a huge variety of weapons, even on the steppe..so don’t feel restrained.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

The clan is like Lauront says is treated as a figurehead and that the Bakufu are the ones who are pulling the strings. I don't have a direct citation, but I do know in a few quests that people have stated that those in charge aka the Bakufu are Raen or at least enough of them are to make a remark about it. Also I doubt Yuki Yatsurugi's bodyguard wouldn't call her a princess if she wasn't one. Then there is the Ruby Princess who rules over Sui-no-Sato.

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No citation. Got it.

Warrior and dark knight fits male Au Ra well

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Originally Posted by Garet

Warrior and dark knight fits male Au Ra well

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Once again, if you've got a reason why your character would've got their hands on the job crystal then everything work but these two jobs have no specific tie to the Raen. Warriors are from a clan that live in the mountains of Abalathia, from memory I believe they are mostly Roegadyns and Hyurgoths. And Dark knigths are vigilantes established by former Ishgard knights to punish corrupted clergy members, so mostly Elezens and Hyurs

Well we know from the Steppes that the Au Ra have their own warrior traditions, and the Raen did ultimately come from there, so it's not a stretch to say that such a tradition wouldn't be alien to them. I believe some Xaela tribes even include amongst them Raen. Malaguld being the named one.

I play a Raen and I main summoner but that's just a personal preference. Like other people have pointed out, Raen are fairly spread out and have a tendency to integrate into other cultures so theoretically anything can work with them.

I honestly don't remember the distribution in the Steppes.
But based on my memory the Raen seem to have mostly been represented as Eastern.
So NIN and SAM.

So, we've seen two prominent Raen settlements. The first are around the Ruby Sea, which are VERY distinctly themed around Feudal Japan, which I would say make both Ninja and Samurai top contenders in terms of "general vibe". The second is Thavnair, which certainly isn't explicitly Raen, but *does* seem to have quite a few. However, aside from the Dancer which has *some* roots to the nation, we never actually see it represented during our time there.

So if you're looking for Lore-friendly jobs for the Raen, I would say the Ninja and Samurai are probably the top candidates, personally.

Some members of the Radiant Host wield chakrams so it seems to safe to assume that DNC is something of a standard combat discipline in Thavnair; though perhaps without the deeper connotations of the profession we get involved with.

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Originally Posted by Floortank

Pure baloney. Where did you even come up with this?

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Sui no Sato, the settlement of Au Ra made up of raen Au Ra who explicitly refuse to fight back against the empire in Stormblood. The ones that do fight with us from the Azem Steppe are xela. And most of the ones we'd seem are also xela, like Sigrudu in Heavensward who is your dark knight trainer. Yugiri was the only notable raen I could remember.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Sui no Sato, the settlement of Au Ra made up of raen Au Ra who explicitly refuse to fight back against the empire in Stormblood. The ones that do fight with us from the Azem Steppe are xela. And most of the ones we'd seem are also xela, like Sigrudu in Heavensward who is your dark knight trainer. Yugiri was the only notable raen I could remember.

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That is literally one isolated settlement. It tells us nothing about how the rest of the population live or what values they hold.

While it's true that we haven't encountered many others in Othard, it's also not enough to extrapolate that all Au Ra are like this. We can only say for certain what the people of Sui-no-Sato are like.

Lauront provided a lorebook quote in post #17 that contradicts the idea that they all live like this.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That is literally one isolated settlement. It tells us nothing about how the rest of the population live or what values they hold.

While it's true that we haven't encountered many others in Othard, it's also not enough to extrapolate that all Au Ra are like this. We can only say for certain what the people of Sui-no-Sato are like.

Lauront provided a lorebook quote in post #17 that contradicts the idea that they all live like this.

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Sui-no-Sato is also absurdly isolationist, only interacting with the Blue kojin. The Raen we see from Werlyt are nothing like them.