Might be worth looking into removing the allowance on battle leves, met a lot of new players to the game lately and one of the biggest problems they have had was running out of leves.
Perhaps an alternative would be to start all new players off with 99 leves maybe.
Remove battle leves allowance.
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05-13-2012, 08:15 AMJinkoRemove battle leves allowance.
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05-13-2012, 08:59 AMScotchio
Or maybe a way to earn more leves. By doing side-quests or something. (Not just not doing any for a few days).
A bit like they way they introduced a way to earn Anima.
When you do a leve evaluation. Instead of a gil bonus, an added leve allowance bonus, perhaps?
So a low leve evaluation might get you 2 extra leves, higher ones up to 8. -
05-18-2012, 01:05 AMBlaiseLallaise
The way the game is now, the question must be asked, is it even worth having a limited number of leves? I know very few people who can say they went from 99 leves to 0, and those who did spent a LOT of time to do it. Those who will benefit most from leves, i.e. the casual with limited play time, will probably never run out of leve allowances once they build them up. Thus the question, is there any longer a need to limit the number of leves one can do in a sitting? I would say no.
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05-18-2012, 01:13 AMPyretta_Blaze
I could see giving a new/reactivated character the full 99 allowance.
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05-25-2012, 08:59 AMSabaku_UsagiIMO it's to prevent the spamming of leves (such as in-town crafting leves). The system now is MUCH more flexible than when it was released, and is honestly a reasonable system. I think having the ability to "run out" of leves is good, but I don't necessarily agree with capping of leves at 99. If anything were to be implemented, I wish they would have two leve allowances for each of the NPCs and gathering should be moved to the crafting leves NPC.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise
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06-17-2012, 09:14 PMJinko
Ok just had 3 "new players" from my LS quit the game because they didn't have enough leves to keep them levelling, something needs to be done about this if you want to keep new players interested in this game.
I'm sure things will change in 2.0 but you need to think about right now as well.
No community dev response to such a simple request is pretty disappointing.
Some people don't want to solo grind or party grind to gain XP, you are encouraging players to not play your game with the current system, if people don't play a game they lose interest, if they play a game which hinders their progress they lose interest, its the very reason people quit at launch and not much has changed for new players.
The title is about battle leves only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabaku_Usagi
Yes for old players who have accumulated 99 levels, new players still only start with 8 leves which can be finished in an hour or less.Quote:
The system now is MUCH more flexible than when it was released, and is honestly a reasonable system.
I would prefer a system similar to what WoW has, you get 20-25 daily quests which are renewed every 24 hours, you can spend this allowance on any daily quest you want, this could work in the same way, guildleves are basically daily quests anyway.Quote:
I think having the ability to "run out" of leves is good, but I don't necessarily agree with capping of leves at 99. If anything were to be implemented, I wish they would have two leve allowances for each of the NPCs and gathering should be moved to the crafting leves NPC.
The best solution would be to split the local leve and battle leve allowance.
Battle leve allowance 20 a day
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06-17-2012, 09:25 PMZetsumei_Tsunarashi
The thing about new players is they have no friends starting out to show them anything, and they are probably comming from WoW or some other WoW clone, where leveling is based entirely on doing mass amounts of quests. The first thought that is going to come across any new player's mind is going to be "Ok, where's the quests ?"
So if you come to a game like this where leveling is based mostly on party grinding, people can't figure it out without being told. In a lot of cases, the concept is so foreign, that they just refuse to do it.
So basically, yea, if you want to retain people from other games, at least until 2.0. It wouldn't be a bad idea to just give people 99 leves starting out. -
06-23-2012, 05:53 PMcheezr
The starting leve allowance should definitely be raised for new players. What is the point of starting out new players with only 8 leve allowances. I'm a new player and came up against this limitation which hampered the fun I was having.
I feel like I should reactivate ffxi to play while my leve allowance replenishes to 99. -
06-23-2012, 07:53 PMBobbinT
I guess it was there so that players don't abuse their gaming hours like crazy. :p
For my case, I didn't even find that as an issue. Maybe because i have some RL to do.
I might find for several days abusing leve allowance has given me so far around 60 points left, but by the time I do something else and returned to leve again, my leve allowance has been restored significantly and even to 99.
Mind u that right now I'm doing 20 leve & 10 behest achievements from every camps in conjunction with grinding my gla/lnc/mrd and have cleared 9 lowest camps from every region. That's roughly more than hundreds of leve allowance I have abused.
But in case of Jinko's pleas, I didn't really mind if SE decide to abolish leve allowance. :)
This could be a problem later on if I decide to spam leve for crafting if we still restricted with allowances. ;D -
06-24-2012, 01:12 PMTaggerung5
A restriction on it basically says "You need to go do something else, we don't want you to play our game, that you pay for." Now me personally I don't mind having a cap, or only gain x amount a day. I generally spend most of my time helping other people with their fights for quests and junk.
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06-25-2012, 01:37 AMPunainenIf that even works. My main character always has about 99 allowances, but I got onto my alt after not playing it for an age, and it still had only 8 allowances....... :|Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezr
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06-25-2012, 02:38 AMLeoheart
Depends on your play style, when I first started playing again, I could level a job from 30-50 in a week sololing leves, I'd usually be left with around 30-40 allowances left.
It doesn't take long to go through them, if I'm honest. -
06-25-2012, 10:32 AMcheezrAfter patch 1.19 you have to talk to the levequest issuer to accumulate leve allowances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punainen
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08-29-2012, 01:49 PMGoaty65109Thank you! I just posted in the bug section about this because I played the beta, stood in line for my collectors edition, and had left like most others because the game was pretty unplayable. I come back 5 days ago to find that everyone else who reactivated "accrued" 99 levequest allowances, while I started with the mere 12. NOT a way I want to come back to a better, but still unplayable for newer/low level and now.. paying... customers. Hope they do something that makes this more friendly to these types soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze
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09-08-2012, 07:06 AMIgtenos
The way it should work is that you receive battlequests straight from the aetheryte camp rather than having to go back and forth between the camp & the closest city. It'd be a great quality of life change because even they add hundreds of new quests to do, there's still going to be a time and a place for the levelquests when you're leveling different classes.
As for the limit, I'd change it a flat amount per day that resets at a specific time of the day. Say, noon server time. Then give a fairly large amount of quests per day -- say around 20 or 25. That's more than enough for most players.