First Raid launch in 2 days xD

The first Final Fantasy XIV Endwalker raid release time is December 21 at 2:00 AM PST / 5:00 AM EST / 10:00 AM GMT / 7 PM JST, which is the same time as update 6.01 drops.. Two weeks from then on January 4, 2022, the Savage difficulty will drop with version 6.05.

So expect Tuesday queues to spike again.

Then the login queues will double from what they are now. Not much to look forward to when already can't play from how long the queues are now.

The best thing to do was to delay the content and apply the improvements without further content.

It will be too late when they realize it and there are still many who can't play.

Already to late xD

So what you're saying is we can expect that the queues are going to be utter pandaemonium...

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Originally Posted by filexcl

The best thing to do was to delay the content and apply the improvements without further content.

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I'd have to disagree. Raiders have already dealt with enough delays. They need to keep the content flowing to keep people subscribed. The improvements that need to be made are probably months out at LEAST, if not longer. No real sense in stalling the patch cycle. It is best to keep people entertained while they wait for help to arrive.

Dunno about other regions, but at least in the NA servers, raiders actually log in around 4am every Tuesday when the weekly reset happens. Queue times at those hours are never high.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

Dunno about other regions, but at least in the NA servers, raiders actually log in around 4am every Tuesday when the weekly reset happens. Queue times at those hours are never high.

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Some probably do but not everyone.

All the hardcore raiders do. I've been raiding through PF ever since Stormblood. It was always literally the same people every morning on Tuesdays. Obviously statics will have their own schedule, but people would literally either stay up late or wake up mega-early just to raid right after resets.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'd have to disagree. Raiders have already dealt with enough delays. They need to keep the content flowing to keep people subscribed. The improvements that need to be made are probably months out at LEAST, if not longer. No real sense in stalling the patch cycle. It is best to keep people entertained while they wait for help to arrive.

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Can’t keep people entertained if they can’t even get into the game…I’d have to agree about delaying; the “raiders” you refer to are mostly streamers that seem to have no issues with login queues…just sayin

It's unlikely that the queues are going to vanish anytime soon. Each delay simply pushes back future content to a further point in time...after Endwalker itself was already delayed twice, at that.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's unlikely that the queues are going to vanish anytime soon. Each delay simply pushes back future content to a further point in time...after Endwalker itself was already delayed twice, at that.

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Yep, exactly.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Then the login queues will double from what they are now. Not much to look forward to when already can't play from how long the queues are now.

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it'll be pretty brief, the raid story likely won't take that long to play through, a couple of hours tops.

Kinda wild that anyone that's been around more than a year or two would think raiders could spike the queues the way expansion launch does.

Are you for real?
Probably well over 80% of the overall playerbase filling the queues hasn't finished the MSQ yet, and nearly all of the remaining 20% haven't reached a point of only "raid-logging"
Plus it's just the normal raids. Over in less than 2 hours if you aren't picky about which tokens you take, and still over on Tuesday even if you are.

i didnt even msq yet

Imagine if the raid groups failed to login and new people got first clears or whatever for once, oh my god, wouldn't that be such a terrible thing?

Can't stay throned forever.

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Originally Posted by filexcl

The best thing to do was to delay the content and apply the improvements without further content.

It will be too late when they realize it and there are still many who can't play.

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delay until when ? sorry but delays only make sense if you have an at least somewhat reasonable timeline saying the problem will be solved soon. delaying the patch a week or two would do literally nothing but piss part of the playerbase off right now while still giving us the exact same problems 2 weeks later.

now you could delay it indefinately, that would actually solve the problem even. the problem solving however would be done by having the playerbase drop off until servers are stabilized on virtue of the drop off alone, if that was the plan they might aswell release it on time, can't really go worse than "enough players quit so that the server situation solves itself"

Good God brace yourself. Ungodly wait time are coming

The true raid will be to beat the queue post-maintenance...

This is going to be a doozy. I expect Savage Raids to be a bit hard on people considering the fact we're having to fight the queues. Thankfully, it only takes around an hour and a half or so for us over on Primal, but I'm not sure about how things will be around 10 PM or so.

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Originally Posted by bravefan1983

Can’t keep people entertained if they can’t even get into the game…I’d have to agree about delaying; the “raiders” you refer to are mostly streamers that seem to have no issues with login queues…just sayin

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I like this idea that everyone is in the queue and no one is playing the game.

The reason the queue exists in the first place is because the servers are at their population limit. That's a LOT of people to keep entertained.

Delaying it will only have the people who have been playing losing interest. Not delaying it may make some people miss out because they can't get into the game.

Either option is going to lose people, and delaying content is going to affect much more than player retention.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

So what you're saying is we can expect that the queues are going to be utter pandaemonium...

:cool:

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Alright alright! Take your like and get outta here!!

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Originally Posted by bravefan1983

Can’t keep people entertained if they can’t even get into the game…I’d have to agree about delaying; the “raiders” you refer to are mostly streamers that seem to have no issues with login queues…just sayin

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Delay by how much?
It will take them months to install the servers needed, for a 2 week rush, and then it all goes back to normal.

I had no queues getting in today, where it was 3k at this time last week.
And for every 3k in the queue that are 10k in already and playing.

There will be a surge again tomorrow for sure, and again Jan 4th, but by mid-late Jan it'll all be back to normal, no queues besides the usual 30-50 people that takes 30 seconds, and this will all be forgotten until 7.0

Well, I'll be one less person trying to log on this week. I'll wait till things die down for a few days. Gives me time to play some Halo Infinite anyways.

There sure will be some spike tomorrow (but not huge), as everyone will rush to finish the quests and close weeklies, but will come back to normal by Wednesday.
Also i'm almost sure nothing will change with savage drop, as casuals won't be interested, and those who intend to delve into are already playing every day