Ninja feels clunky in endwalker

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12-19-2021, 08:55 AM
AlnoAshen

Ninja feels clunky in endwalker

Ive been ating ninja since shb and i love this job very much but,the changes implimented to the ninja in ew(forced gap closers,forked and fleeting raiju)have made the job feels clunkier and they also feels a bit unrewarding.
A change that would really help is if the proc for forked raiju,remains even after pressing a weaponskill,this will really help with positioning during fights,as currently you have to press them even if u are in a bad position as they are gcds.This change will also help in keeping your huton up just in case you didnt refresh it before got into your trick window.Another possible,but lower on the priority list,change would be if they gave you more ninki,this will help them feel more rewarding.
Ty
12-19-2021, 09:38 AM
Equitable_Remedy

Feels fun and rewarding to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Also, there are several threads on this same topic in the DPS forum.)
12-19-2021, 06:58 PM
AlnoAshen

Yeah,im new to the forums so was a bit confused,but also wanted to put my opinion out there cause i just couldnt stay silent anymore
12-19-2021, 08:54 PM
Xtro99

I'm about to start leveling my ninja to 90 but I'm a bit confused about not having silent fang anymore and armor crush is now part of a combo? I'm so confused xD
12-20-2021, 01:26 AM
AlnoAshen

Armor crush has been part of the 123 combo since shb,i dont know about silent fang at all,mayhaps these were the skills in stormblood or before?
But u should try ninja its still a fun job, but the raijus are extremely clunky and restrictive
12-20-2021, 03:51 AM
Packetdancer

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlnoAshen

Armor crush has been part of the 123 combo since shb,i dont know about silent fang at all

I think they meant Shadow Fang, which was a skill in Shadowbringers; it combo'd off of Spinning Edge and inflicted a Damage-over-Time status effect on the target.
12-22-2021, 01:01 AM
LukaRoselia

Not sure about the wording of the title because I was honestly confused before I read the post what on earth you where getting at.

I do agree with you though kind of. I think forked/fleeting raiju is a lot of fun to use and I really like it but it really does feel like it's kind of LOLDRG'ing us a bit with the forced immediate use or lose it. I agree it shouldn't be lost upon using literally anything else.
12-22-2021, 09:20 AM
SamSmoot

I find myself using the Raijus all the time, with filler between them if any are off CD.
If using one would put me in the bad stuff, I just hold off until the yellow goes away. A minor DPS loss from waiting is preferable to being dead.
You can also toss a couple more Raitons if forced to stay away, then use the Raiju stacks after you move in again.
12-22-2021, 09:40 AM
KageTokage

I'm honestly questioning whether or not I should just jump on the RPR bandwagon for the first savage tier because Raiju clunkiness aside, NIN is also in a bad enough spot DPS-wise that people on both the JP/English forums are making an issue of it.
12-23-2021, 05:04 AM
AlnoAshen

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamSmoot

I find myself using the Raijus all the time, with filler between them if any are off CD.
If using one would put me in the bad stuff, I just hold off until the yellow goes away. A minor DPS loss from waiting is preferable to being dead.
You can also toss a couple more Raitons if forced to stay away, then use the Raiju stacks after you move in again.

well,in savage,ult and extreme there is no yellow that u can wait for to go away,and holding raiju for throwing daggers in not an option when u r trying to improve or even make a dps check,even if u do hold onto it,that is the part thats clunk fest
12-23-2021, 05:22 AM
lllogically

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packetdancer

I think they meant Shadow Fang, which was a skill in Shadowbringers; it combo'd off of Spinning Edge and inflicted a Damage-over-Time status effect on the target.

Shadow Fang was changed in Shadowbringers to no longer be attached to Spinning Edge. Was just a weaponskill with a 60 second cooldown. Forget if that was at the start or after the rework though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtro99

I'm about to start leveling my ninja to 90 but I'm a bit confused about not having silent fang anymore and armor crush is now part of a combo? I'm so confused xD

Armor Crush has been a part of the 123 combo since it was introduced back in Heavensward.
12-23-2021, 08:00 AM
Medorii

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlnoAshen

Ive been ating ninja since shb and i love this job very much but,the changes implimented to the ninja in ew(forced gap closers,forked and fleeting raiju)have made the job feels clunkier and they also feels a bit unrewarding.
A change that would really help is if the proc for forked raiju,remains even after pressing a weaponskill,this will really help with positioning during fights,as currently you have to press them even if u are in a bad position as they are gcds.This change will also help in keeping your huton up just in case you didnt refresh it before got into your trick window.Another possible,but lower on the priority list,change would be if they gave you more ninki,this will help them feel more rewarding.
Ty

bruh you dont know clunky if you didnt play SB nin...