CHI and other long FATE timers

Why is SE not addressing this issue with current login issues and limited servers? All this is doing is keeping people logged in to get the spawn. CHIs window can run up to 72 hrs I believe? Even so, this hurts the player base from logging in the game; I know it’s a small percentage but still plays a factor.

Yup, I have camped this site twice now, for 9 hours each time and no spawn, even though it spawned on the other 2 instances. Its pretty terrible since we're sitting waiting and then you get to a point where you're afraid to leave as you invested so much time. It's really stupid and completely unrealistic, by physically taking people away from the game you created to sit and stare into space.

Yup, I have camped this site twice now, for 9 hours each time and no spawn, even though it spawned on the other 2 instances. Its pretty terrible since we're sitting waiting and then you get to a point where you're afraid to leave as you invested so much time. It's really stupid and completely unrealistic, by physically taking people away from the game you created to sit and stare into space.

people are letting their FOMO getting to them because they feel the have to have it right away or somehow they're less of a person.

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Originally Posted by HayleyGeek

Yup, I have camped this site twice now, for 9 hours each time and no spawn, even though it spawned on the other 2 instances. Its pretty terrible since we're sitting waiting and then you get to a point where you're afraid to leave as you invested so much time. It's really stupid and completely unrealistic, by physically taking people away from the game you created to sit and stare into space.

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Help me understand how this is not your choice to sit there and camp over 9 hours for this when it's not a limited time event.

What you do in the game is your choice and your responsibility. You are not being forced to "sit and stare into space".

Stop camping if you don't enjoy it. Do other things. The FATE isn't going to suddenly be removed from the game. The crowds will die out around end of January and you shouldn't have a problem getting into an instance to do the FATE when it spawns if you don't get lucky before then.

Also, if it spawned in the other 2 instances while you were camping why didn't you go to an Aetheryte to switch to the active instance? Congestion makes switching instances awkward but if you were in the instance being camped, you would have had a good chance at getting into the correct instance before other players not yet in the final zone could teleport in.

I have the mount myself, but I agree with OP the mount issue should be addressed
I doubt the devs themselves intended for the chi fate to be a frustrating camp to earn

people waiting for chi are basically taking up server space

It would be tolerable with any sort of bad luck prevention. I've been disconnected from the game, and had it spawn while sitting in queue to get back to camp. Had it spawn while I was trying to log. Spawn right after I logged off. I don't mind the grind or the camp, but at least let me have some progress toward the item for the effort in case I'm unable to play during the spawn. Maybe raise the cost of the mount, as well as the rewards from Chi itself, but give the player a bolt or two for each FATE completed? Then it becomes a grind that progresses faster if you get lucky with the Chi spawn.

as time goes on hype dies down for these fates,
you will get it at some point, if you are that dedicated to get it then you should check if its up and spawn the fate yourself if it doesn't that how it is and move on,
SE/Dev team is not responsible if people choose unhealthy habits for a fate.

You are talking an optional item, not something you need to progress in MSQ, gear or gaining levels. If it is that important to you, then you must continue to camp these zones for hours on end.

I know people have had luck with the relay of special fates through novice network, FC channels and linkshells. If you are quick enough, you can get in and join a group and get your 6 tokens without having to actually wait in the zone for hours on end.

It was the same when Ixion was new to everyone in Stormblood. People that wanted the mount right away camped it. If you want the mount sooner rather than later you make the decision to wait out the spawn. For me it's not worth sitting for hours on end for a mount that will be old news in a month and hardly ever used.

Yeah, special fates just aren't worth it. With my RNG luck, Chi will always spawn in the middle of the night or when I'm at work. Never when I'm actually camping him.

Honestly, the only good thing is that you can grind other fates while waiting, by mount vouchers and sell them for cash.

The special fates are really WoW levels of wasted time that you'll never get back.

You absolutely don't need to camp Chi. You certainly don't need to camp it for 9 hours. That's your choice and you've no one to blame but yourself if you do.

I have the mount. The first kill I camped it for like half an hour because I saw it was nearly at its upper limit on spawn time. The second kill I just teleported in when it was notified being up. Sure congestion makes that difficult to do atm, but as people get their mounts and as others stop playing altogether you'll find the congestion will clear right up.

To this day people still kill the likes of Odin, Ixion, Courlregina and Formidable when they spawn. Chi will be the same. You won't miss out. Just keep doing what you like doing to enjoy the game. Get the report Chi is up? Great, try for it. Missed it? Oh well, there's always next time! That special fate isn't going away, after all!

Sitting there hours on end on a spawn that isn't even guaranteed to happen is a fast way of ruining the game for yourself, and it's entirely your fault if you do.

So it's my fault that I've been in this same area for 70hours now on Zodiark with no pop? Slept for 3 hours each night for last 4 days with someone else covering the hours i was sleeping. That's not bad design at all.

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Originally Posted by Asako

So it's my fault that I've been in this same area for 70hours now on Zodiark with no pop? Slept for 3 hours each night for last 4 days with someone else covering the hours i was sleeping. That's not bad design at all.

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... What fate are you even trying to attempt?
Try looking for either a Discord server or a linkshell that keeps track of special fate timers and maybe a website that does it for your data center. Then focus on more then one server. By now Chi and David both last long enough that you can go to a city, travel to the server, get to the area, join a party, and get gold credit before it dies. Heck, people even WAIT now to pull lol.

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Originally Posted by Asako

So it's my fault that I've been in this same area for 70hours now on Zodiark with no pop? Slept for 3 hours each night for last 4 days with someone else covering the hours i was sleeping. That's not bad design at all.

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For Zodiark, it was last up on Thursday at about 2:30pm GMT.

Respawn timer is 36-72 hours, and it's close to cap so it should be spawning very soon. It's RNG that this time it's going to spawn closer to the end of the spawn window than the beginning.

The big FATEs are intended to be rare. The design is fine as you have an entire expansion to do them. There's no need to put your health at risk for something that isn't going to be removed from the game.

As Infindox said, join one of the multiple cross world linkshells or Discord servers that share FATE information so if you miss the FATE spawning on your own world, you can use world visit to get to it on another.

There are also several online hunt/FATE trackers that will monitor the respawn timers (dependent on player reporting of last spawn/kill). I know that Faloop covers EU though I'm not certain what other trackers also cover the EU data centers. Checking the trackers can help you narrow down when it's reasonable to expect a FATE to spawn and when you can be certain it won't.

Would it be helpful if SE integrated a tracker into the game so players don't have to rely on outside websites? Definitely. But until SE chooses to do so, at least there are resources to help.

i'm been trying to chi but the timers are bullshit and it always pop when i'm actaclly liveing life. does make any since for it 36 to 72 hours long of a wait and i got better things to do to play a game with such bullshit timers

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Originally Posted by chrisollen

i'm been trying to chi but the timers are bullshit and it always pop when i'm actaclly liveing life. does make any since for it 36 to 72 hours long of a wait and i got better things to do to play a game with such bullshit timers

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The intent isn't to keep players subscribed by making them wait on long respawn timers. The intent is to make them rare enough that a lot of players show up to help kill it. These FATEs can and do fail if there's a lack of attendance.

It's also a single piece of content in a game with far, far more to do. I don't know what to say if having bad luck with this single FATE is enough to make you quit.

Same advice to you that I gave to Asako - join a cross world linkshell that focuses on FATEs, join a discord that relays data center hunts/FATEs, use the Faloop website that tries to announce major FATE spawns. You're not limited to doing the FATE on Zalera. You can do it on any of the Crystal worlds.

Crystal's The Pursuit Hunts Discord (supports the Crystal data center): https://discord.gg/S8fKQvh

Centurio Hunts Discord (supports all data centers): https://discord.gg/dZTgnpv

Faloop (supports all data centers): https://faloop.app/

They're all community driven with the goal of helping players know what hunts and major FATEs are active on their data center. Each has ways to filter what notifications you get so you only get the announcements for the specific content type (and data center) you're interested in.