Summoner Heal…did I miss something?

Healing Power 400 heals me for ~700 at Lv.90 with 44k HP, while RDM Vercure heals me for ~7k at Healing Power 350, exactly same gear ilvl 575. What did I miss?

Is Physick on the Summoner supposed to be an RP skill?

Physick is based on mind

Vercure is based on Int

Summoner main stat is int so they don't get a heal bonus on physick

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

Is Physick on the Summoner supposed to be an RP skill?

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Pretty much yeah. Why physick still exists in its current state after three expansions of revamps is one of the big mysteries of the game.

No idea why it's in the spellbook in it's current state. It's certainly not on my bars.

I remember FF Tactics had a moogle summon that healed everyone in an AoE. They could probably add a trait that turns physick into that, or something like it, while changing the scaling to int.

The old days of scholar and summoner when you had to consume a keepers hymn to reset stats between INT and MND to play :D.

Physick is one of those skills that just kind of hangs on to SMN even though it is completely useless. There is a real regen with the Phoenix summon but since firebird trance is only available at certain points in the rotation, and you aren't going to hang on to it to save it for a situation where you need it, it's going to simply be a matter of luck if you use it when it might be needed.

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Originally Posted by Adonan

I remember FF Tactics had a moogle summon that healed everyone in an AoE. They could probably add a trait that turns physick into that, or something like it, while changing the scaling to int.

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Now this would be a cool idea.

While at that, they need to make the base carbuncle just a cosmetic spell, and have the Radiant Aegis and Searing Light summon Obsidian and Diamond carbuncles respectively. Nothing worse like needing your shield to help a healer with the damage... oh wait, the base carbuncle is gone because there's an egi right at that time.

It's a handy skill for low levels when you unlock it but quickly becomes useless for reasons stated above.

At level 80, you unlock two legitimate heals.
Rekindle is a 400 potency heal that does scale in int that also gives the target the effect that if during the following 30 seconds, their HP drops below 75% they also get a 200 per tick potency regen for 15 seconds. However, this can only be used under summon phoenix windows, so it's pretty niche.

Also at level 80, you apply Everlasting Flight to the party when you do summon phoenix, which applies a 100 potency per tick regen on the party for 21 seconds.

Physik, as well es Ressucitate, are remnants of the Arcanist Class, which splits into SMN and SCH and has parts of both kits, healing and damage.
Despite Physik being a "real" healing spell and scales with Mind it has its uses in Dungeons below level 50 when Healer and Caster share the same gear and SMN has an overburden amount of Mind available.

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Originally Posted by Legion88

Physik, as well es Ressucitate, are remnants of the Arcanist Class, which splits into SMN and SCH and has parts of both kits, healing and damage.
Despite Physik being a "real" healing spell and scales with Mind it has its uses in Dungeons below level 50 when Healer and Caster share the same gear and SMN has an overburden amount of Mind available.

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Yeah. I recently got into a Cutter's Cry with a super-green healer who spent most of the last two bosses dead on the floor and basically carried the run with Physick and rez.

That's also about the last dungeon where your MND is high enough (and the encounter difficulty low enough) for that to be possible.

There is one nearly microscopic value to Physick: It marginally fills the limit break gauge, so while nothing is happening, you could spam physick to gain a bit of LB charge. Is it worth the MP? Maybe not.

Once upon a time, Titan-egi was a tank. A decent one at that, and the SMN could use Physick to heal him. It had a special interaction that made it heal him for a decent amount but even back in ARR it was worthless on players except dire emergencies. But that's long gone so it's just been hanging out there. Still healing for our mind stat at level 50 since it stops gaining points then.

Physick is kinda like the Undraw ability for Astro... just don't..

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Originally Posted by Madoka

Once upon a time, Titan-egi was a tank. A decent one at that, and the SMN could use Physick to heal him. It had a special interaction that made it heal him for a decent amount but even back in ARR it was worthless on players except dire emergencies. But that's long gone so it's just been hanging out there. Still healing for our mind stat at level 50 since it stops gaining points then.

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You're thinking of Sustain, which was a different spell to physick and gave your pet a fairly potent regen.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

There is one nearly microscopic value to Physick: It marginally fills the limit break gauge, so while nothing is happening, you could spam physick to gain a bit of LB charge. Is it worth the MP? Maybe not.

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It doesn't. The limit break system was changed at Shadowbringers launch so that only heals cast by proper healers could affect the gauge.

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Originally Posted by Shadowbringers 5.0 Patch Notes

The following adjustments have been made to limit breaks:

• The rate at which the limit break gauge fills when using healing actions has been reduced.
• The limit break gauge will no longer fill when non-healer jobs use healing actions.
• The rate at which the limit break gauge fills in new areas when taking damage from enemies under certain conditions has been reduced.

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