Petition to lower female Viera minimum height

Not saying to make them short as a whole, just give us a choice to make them short :mad:

No.

They're not meant to be a short and cutesy race, stop trying to change them. They're supposed to be tall race.

This discourse again...
No.

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

so male vieras get to be short but the females cant

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You got it!

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

No.

They're not meant to be a short and cutesy race, stop trying to change them. They're supposed to be tall race.

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so male vieras can be short but the females can't?

I agree- I'd love to see a little more variety in the height of all the races and genders. Not a substantial amount but enough to see the races overlap a bit more in height. The races all seem quite uniform unless they're standing right next to each other. It'd be nice to see a bit of a wider spectrum. Without things getting too ridiculous of course.

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

so male vieras can be short but the females can't?

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In real life, male rabbits tend to be a lot smaller than females... So, yeah? It makes sense.

Also, viera's are supposed to be a taller race. It's the case in majority of the FF games and I REALLY don't fancy being the only tall viera amongst a bunch of people playing as them just to make them small. Why should we change the viera's height and constantly conform to a 'males should be taller than female' stereotype?

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

In real life, male rabbits tend to be a lot smaller than females... So, yeah? It makes sense.

Also, viera's are supposed to be a taller race. It's the case in majority of the FF games and I REALLY don't fancy being the only tall viera amongst a bunch of people playing as them just to make them small. Why should we change the viera's height and constantly conform to a 'males should be taller than female' stereotype?

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I said make the minimum height shorter, not make them short as a whole. Some people including me like viera's design, and just don't like walking around with a tall character. It affects the gameplay.

No, Viera have always been a tall race in FF and males have always been shorter in the lore. Male rabbits are smaller than female rabbits irl. Miq'ote and Au'Ra are the short cute animal based races, not everything needs short and cute.

This thread is just asking for gender politics and stereotype wars…

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

It affects the gameplay.

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How does it affect gameplay?

What if they expanded the slider to allow both slightly shorter AND slightly taller males and females of all races? Keeping the overall racial proportions but allowing for wider customisability? :D

Am I the only one who wants a wide variety of talls and smalls in every race?

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Originally Posted by CrayonsAndPaint

This thread is just asking for gender politics and stereotype wars…

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Or I'm just asking to have a smaller character because of personal preferences. has nothing to do with leftist agenda

WELL this is going in a direction I dont like. So I shall bow out of this thread.

My final word being I support both the "leftist agenda", and many sized rabbits.

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Originally Posted by xou_

How does it affect gameplay?

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Wider fov, just feels smoother being shorter. Try playing lalafel and you'll understand.

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

Wider fov, just feels smoother being shorter. Try playing lalafel and you'll understand.

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As someone who plays all the races, this makes no sense at all.

You want more FoV? CTRL+ Up Arrow to raise Camera Height. CTRL + Down Arrow to lower Camera Height.

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Originally Posted by Sclair0

Am I the only one who wants a wide variety of talls and smalls in every race?

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tbf it feels like everyone picks 0 or 100. I doub't we'd see much more variety than we have now.

The height slider is actually a scale slider. It can already look a little odd seeing the largest next to the smallest and they are a perfect scale model. It not something you see often in real life. I wouldn't mind having a couple inches more on each end of the range for all races, but I don't think it should go much further.

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

As someone who plays all the races, this makes no sense at all.

You want more FoV? CTRL+ Up Arrow to raise Camera Height. CTRL + Down Arrow to lower Camera Height.

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It's just a personal preference, in my opinion being taller also makes the animations look clunky, especially for a fast paced class like ninja. Already know how to zoom in and out it just feels fluid being shorter.

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

It's just a personal preference, in my opinion being taller also makes the animations look clunky, especially for a fast paced class like ninja. Already know how to zoom in and out it just feels fluid being shorter.

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This again makes no sense, since all the animations are timed to the moves already as well. One thing they didn't slack on, was animations.

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Originally Posted by Tatiana

No, Viera have always been a tall race in FF and males have always been shorter in the lore. Male rabbits are smaller than female rabbits irl. Miq'ote and Au'Ra are the short cute animal based races, not everything needs short and cute.

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Just because female rabbits are larger doesn't mean they can't be small :/

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

It's just a personal preference, in my opinion being taller also makes the animations look clunky, especially for a fast paced class like ninja. Already know how to zoom in and out it just feels fluid being shorter.

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Why in the blue hell are you looking at your character during combat, this is why the FF14 playerbase have such a large failure rate.

Instead of looking at mechanics, lets look at your own character animations in the midst of combat.

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

I said make the minimum height shorter, not make them short as a whole. Some people including me like viera's design, and just don't like walking around with a tall character. It affects the gameplay.

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No. Because I just know majority of people would make their viera's literally the shortest setting. While I'd be one of the few who stays true to the defining height based on previous games.

Don't act like this is about gameplay. This is about you being amongst the certain group of people who are trying to change the way Viera are for the sake of them being a more 'small/adorable' race.

No.

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Originally Posted by ItagakiFanboy

Just because female rabbits are larger doesn't mean they can't be small :/

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Ok but that's just because most types of rabbits are small in general, the male equivalent for each type of rabbit on average is still smaller. If male Viera raise their height to most anything above their minimum they are already taller than female Viera at their minimum height. Either way the Viera have always been tall. They were tall in FF12, they were tall in FF:TA, they're tall in FFXIV, that's just the way they are and as someone who actually prefers shorter characters myself, the Viera have been my favourite FF race for many years and I'm really glad they stayed true to it in this game.

Raise Viera max height so I can tower above femroes or riot.

Petition to give female Viera more than one good face, face 1-3-4 are disgusting.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Petition to give female Viera more than one good face, face 1-3-4 are disgusting.

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Don't hate me cause I'm beautiful
https://i.imgur.com/1gIQWgz.png

Actually the gameplay is one thing it doesn't affect at all.

It does however to you personally lower the enjoyment of looking at you character.

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Originally Posted by Sclair0

I agree- I'd love to see a little more variety in the height of all the races and genders. Not a substantial amount but enough to see the races overlap a bit more in height. The races all seem quite uniform unless they're standing right next to each other. It'd be nice to see a bit of a wider spectrum. Without things getting too ridiculous of course.

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If Miqos can be 5'9", I'll switch again!

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Originally Posted by Rokke

tbf it feels like everyone picks 0 or 100. I doub't we'd see much more variety than we have now.

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This, I'm about 37% height and other male viera are either shorter (min) or WAY taller than me (max or close enough to max)

Also, OP, you will take your Amazonian bunnies and you will like it. we need more tall females, not less.

Hehe, I'm a max height bunny girl and even the tallest of the bunny boys are shorter - it is glorious ;)

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

In real life, male rabbits tend to be a lot smaller than females... So, yeah? It makes sense.

Also, viera's are supposed to be a taller race. It's the case in majority of the FF games and I REALLY don't fancy being the only tall viera amongst a bunch of people playing as them just to make them small. Why should we change the viera's height and constantly conform to a 'males should be taller than female' stereotype?

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https://i.redd.it/cu50t9yy92h21.png

The current female viera height range is pretty great as is. I don't see any reason to make any changes.

Really? This again?