Summoners already getting blacklisted from groups

It's already begun. I have seen multiple groups advertising no summoners on the current ex trials or just outright kicking them when they join due to ifrit and titan making encounters so much harder.

Square Enix really needs to add a way to adjust summoners visuals on an individual player level or by the time savage raids and ultimate come out summoners are going to he completely removed from the scene due to their screen wide obscurity.

Pet size all small only works if the summoner himself does it and it does not adjust the visuals at all.

Contrariwise, as a Summoner enjoying the full extent of my max size summons and my *own* spell effects I have no interest in running with groups who are unaware that they can turn off any and all effects they like and that it's their job to adjust the size of summons on their own screen, not mine. This is basic information to anyone who bothered to read the patch notes.

It's more the issue is all or nothing. I dont want to remove all visuals simply because one class completely obscures the screen constantly, I'd rather just not invite the class. I'm seeing it start to happen alot in PF already and we are not even into hard content yet

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Contrariwise, as a Summoner enjoying the full extent of my max size summons and my *own* spell effects I have no interest in running with groups who are unaware that they can turn off any and all effects they like and that it's their job to adjust the size of summons on their own screen, not mine. This is basic information to anyone who bothered to read the patch notes.

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The Limited Spell Effects for party members doesn't seem to work on the level 90 summons. Also god help your ability to see mechanics with max size summons.

guys read the patch notes. you have to do it yourself as it's client side not server side.

/petsize all small

do that and there won't be any issues anymore.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

guys read the patch notes. you have to do it yourself as it's client side not server side.

/petsize all small

do that and there won't be any issues anymore.

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The problem is mostly that this is NOT a well advertised feature, at all, in any point in game. And if you didn't read the entirety of a multi-page patch notes, you wouldn't know about this feature. It's a serious problem.

you could control pet size since demi-bahamut was introduced!

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Originally Posted by UwuCat

Pet size all small only works if the summoner himself does it and it does not adjust the visuals at all.

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This is 100% incorrect, tested it with a friend in game just last night. I have pet sizes set to small, he hadn't changed them. He saw my level 90 summons as full sized while I did not.

It's not the summoner's fault if people forgot about a feature that's been in the game for a good four years now.

It doesnt adjust the size of the screen blinding apes though just the primal itaelf

That’s correct. This feature is a client side adjustment. The change only affect your experience with other summoners.

If it happened today, I can garantee your the reason is not the summon animations...
Everyone knows that you can reduce the pet size, just look at this topic.

Everyone mentions the petsize and party effects, I don't know anyone that ignore you can turn them off.
I haven't seen any of these party kicking/forbidding SMN, have you asked them, told them about the commands to reduce party effects?

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

Everyone knows that you can reduce the pet size, just look at this topic.

Everyone mentions the petsize and party effects, I don't know anyone that ignore you can turn them off.

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The type of obsessed people to post to these forums is a fraction of a fraction of the population, and most group kicks aren't a lengthy back-and-forth that include problem-solving.

Never heard of this. Likely happened once. In a dream.

You can also turn off particle effect from other players, if im not mistaken... and just watch your own.

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Originally Posted by HappyHubris

The type of obsessed people to post to these forums is a fraction of a fraction of the population, and most group kicks aren't a lengthy back-and-forth that include problem-solving.

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Most people don't kick a party member because they don't know how to adjust there settings either. Stupid is as stupid does.

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Originally Posted by UwuCat

It's already begun. I have seen multiple groups advertising no summoners on the current ex trials or just outright kicking them when they join due to ifrit and titan making encounters so much harder.

Square Enix really needs to add a way to adjust summoners visuals on an individual player level or by the time savage raids and ultimate come out summoners are going to he completely removed from the scene due to their screen wide obscurity.

Pet size all small only works if the summoner himself does it and it does not adjust the visuals at all.

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OP is a good example. Here you go since it appears you are not smart enough or to lazy to read patch notes yourself.

Player has to input these commands themselves to affect summon sizes.
/petsize "Ruby Ifrit" "Small"
/petsize "Topaz Titan" "Small"
/petsize "Emerald Garuda" "Small"
/bahamutsize "Small"

Please do research before making idiotic posts.

I'm surprised this is suddenly a problem considering Red Mages and Black Mages are known for the flashy skills, especially Red Mages.

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Originally Posted by Taranok

The problem is mostly that this is NOT a well advertised feature, at all, in any point in game. And if you didn't read the entirety of a multi-page patch notes, you wouldn't know about this feature. It's a serious problem.

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If you press control f and type in command or egi in the search bar that would had help

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

guys read the patch notes. you have to do it yourself as it's client side not server side.

/petsize all small

do that and there won't be any issues anymore.

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https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.70751179...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

If you are unwilling to se your effects for other players to limited that is not the summoners fault. I love xiv animations but they have always been a little to much in full groups. I have had my effects set to limited for years and after a week you don’t even notice it.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

OP is a good example. Here you go since it appears you are not smart enough or to lazy to read patch notes yourself.

Player has to input these commands themselves to affect summon sizes.
/petsize "Ruby Ifrit" "Small"
/petsize "Topaz Titan" "Small"
/petsize "Emerald Garuda" "Small"
/bahamutsize "Small"

Please do research before making idiotic posts.

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An easier method is just /petsize all small, which will change the size of all of SMN's summons to small.

OP is full of it lol. No job is getting blacklisted from groups, and if you don't like the animation spam (literally ALL the jobs have insanely flashy animations, that's part of the games draw) then turn them off.

It baffles me how People are complaining avout SMN Primals obscuring vision, but are totally okay with the Red Mage LB3 meme that blinds all Partymembers.

This is the first time i hear SMN getting blacklisted over that lol

Has anyone told you already "the reason you claim"?!

The only reason i can think about is, that a bunch of SMN´s keep running around imo for what it has become. This means even a bunch of unexperienced players join the group. It would be legit to be like "I don´t want new classes in my party." since it´s more of a gamble to find a good player sitting behind the screen, who already knows what to do.


(As other said, Pet size small works and you can turn of other animations too. So far i highly doubt it´s an issue. Any serious EX raider knows such options very well.)

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Originally Posted by Anhra

It baffles me how People are complaining avout SMN Primals obscuring vision, but are totally okay with the Red Mage LB3 meme that blinds all Partymembers.

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must be because you see 1 rdm lb3 every 4 weeks and the smn visual aids is every 20 secs

Past two days I have done extreme's we have had summoner in.. I have no seen a single pf on Zodiark not allowing summoner either.

You guys know that maybe a static of say 6 ppl just lookin for 2 to farm might not want a 2nd mage in the group because it conflicts with the drops team mates might receive right? Right!? Get over yourselves SMN is awesome start your own party do some work , make a team don’t lay down and cry when things don’t go your way.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Contrariwise, as a Summoner enjoying the full extent of my max size summons and my *own* spell effects I have no interest in running with groups who are unaware that they can turn off any and all effects they like and that it's their job to adjust the size of summons on their own screen, not mine. This is basic information to anyone who bothered to read the patch notes.

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HERE HERE! Well said! I almost choked when i saw this cause I read the same in the patch notes... my first thought was, i thought this was fixed LOL

I've cleared both EX's with my summoner in my static with max pet size and all spell effects
It's not that bad for me, we've cleared multiple times and are still farming for the dang cats. Never once did I think "Dang, if only these spell effects that I have complete control over weren't making me play worse by hiding mechanics."

But, even if it was, I could just make the summons smaller or turn down spell effects. This was put in specifically for this exact issue and has been in since Bahamut's introduction and the game's launch respectively.
If you see party finders blacklisting summoners because of spell effects, I have a sneaking suspicion that's just an scrub excuse as to why they fail mechanics and would probably fail no matter what.

Pet size scaling is client side. That means you. You put the command in send it adjusts thr size of the primals on your screen only.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

It baffles me how People are complaining avout SMN Primals obscuring vision, but are totally okay with the Red Mage LB3 meme that blinds all Partymembers.

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I mean I think most people would rather not RDM LB3.

It almost feels like RDM's are trolling when they LB3.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

It baffles me how People are complaining avout SMN Primals obscuring vision, but are totally okay with the Red Mage LB3 meme that blinds all Partymembers.

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you dont need RDM LB3 for that

RDM impact spell, the one that create huge flower with petals flowing around complete with loud ZING sound effect. i think that one do better work than the LB3 lol

There was a group where I actually asked if they want me to change pet size, and they told me that even if I did its only on my side. They need to adjust it for themselves. :D

Sauce, OP? I’d love to see where people are actively denying SMNs, especially considering petsize is client side.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

It baffles me how People are complaining avout SMN Primals obscuring vision, but are totally okay with the Red Mage LB3 meme that blinds all Partymembers.

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Could be that you very rarely see rdm's using a lb3 (or any caster) while smn and it's pets are constantly blocking your view. Thank god /petsize all small exists otherwise I would refuse to do hard content with a summoner.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Sauce, OP? I’d love to see where people are actively denying SMNs, especially considering petsize is client side.

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Now you're sealioning.

Think about their hypothetical made-up person that doesn't know about the petsize command. They're probably the hypothetical person making the hypothetical party finder that hypothetically bans Summoners.

Limit spell effects on other party members need to affect summons. Problem solved. That would make it so where you cant even see their summons.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

I mean I think most people would rather not RDM LB3.

It almost feels like RDM's are trolling when they LB3.

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Funny thing is, about 50% of the LB's I see are from Bards.

Idk if it’s hyperbole but I’m 100% sure you can disable effects