I got off work today at noon to find a que of 5700 people.
3 hours later I was down to 2100 people after 5 2002 errors. I walk away for 5 min to use the restroom before there is a puddle under my chair and come back to find a 2002. Log back in to find a 5800 person que.
Ques are 100% expected, being unable to join the ques because they are full would not make me happy but for the short term I could accept it. However kicking people mid que to keep the que down is unacceptable and the slow response to it is even worse.
I have played this game since 1.0 alpha test and for the first time am truly considering quitting.
2002 is 100% unacceptable
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12-13-2021, 05:25 AMMedic82322002 is 100% unacceptable
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12-13-2021, 07:08 AMAlxyzntlct
Well, I just had my little theories thoroughly squashed... I had thought if I just dedicated my full internet connection (aka didn't connect anything else) then FFXIV could go through a full queue without issue. I've had a couple of successful evenings of waiting 2-3hrs this last week doing that.
Today though? Nope. I waited about 45min to get crashed out with a 2002... And of course, every immediate re-login attempt resulted in more 2002 errors, until I missed my spot in the queue and had it reset.
This system is absolute garbage. The game itself is amazing, but clearly this game was oversold, the servers under-prepared, and now it's all a big hot mess. Well done. -
12-13-2021, 07:12 AMKetsufumaQuote:
Originally Posted by Alxyzntlct
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Originally Posted by Medic8232
You both joined just recently. Its understandable you guys joined during a content drought when the population was on hiatus waiting for the expansion. during this time the population soared nearly 3-4x its original in just a span of a few months. Now with all the hype that is endwalker it brings even more people into the fold.
The team had no idea how big the growth was. the same issued happed in 2014. Know what happened? the same damned thing but they were able to get more servers to help out. and now during a pandemic you children come on here raining hellfire to a company that is trying its best for everyone and you need to pull this crap.
Please take some deep breaths and get off the internet for a day to calm down. the game will be here regardless what you say. -
12-13-2021, 07:17 AMRankinaI'm sorry, what? LmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ketsufuma
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12-13-2021, 07:18 AMLosaraThey are entitled to complain about a service they are paying for which they aren't able to access as intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketsufuma
It would however be better if there was one mega thread for all the comments regarding the 2002 errors rather than many threads. -
12-13-2021, 07:19 AMAlxyzntlctI've been reading the forums, and the links people have been providing from the last few expansions. What you just said flat-out isn't accurate at all, the servers and congestion have been an issue for years, so they've absolutely known about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketsufuma
They oversold their product that they can't support. It's not difficult math. -
12-13-2021, 07:20 AMMedic8232I am not sure what you mean joined just recently? I have had a non stop sub since 1.0 alpha test....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketsufuma
Edit: o wait I not see it saying nov. 2021 next to my name O.o that might be the day I came over to the forums for the first time but is 100% not anywhere near when I started playing lol just check my gear I have 1.0 only gear on lol -
12-13-2021, 07:21 AMLegendWait
Can you guys stop reposting the same crap, we got it!
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12-13-2021, 07:21 AMIdowhatIwant
To bad your options are to accept it or unsub.
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12-13-2021, 07:22 AMKetsufumaQuote:
Originally Posted by Medic8232
and yet it says your join date is nov 2021 with 6 posts? so you just lurk without even doing much with the community? -
12-13-2021, 07:29 AMMedic8232I don't think I have even come here until today to see wtf was going on with this 2002 and finding this was blowing up about it TBH lol and as stated before there is an onion helm on my head even in my avatar photo that is a 1.0 collectors edition only item. That should easily prove my point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketsufuma
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12-13-2021, 07:30 AMZanarkand-Ronso
Ill just add this one to the other...50 or so threads...
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12-13-2021, 07:30 AMAlxyzntlctA mega-thread would only be ok if it was stickied to the top of the forum, front page. Otherwise it would be too easy to ignore, and the whole point is to bring visibility to what is a very, very big problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Losara
Ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendWait
1. Pot, meet kettle.
2. Doesn't matter if you get it or not, SE needs to get it and based on their minimalistic reactions, they don't seem to get it yet.
3. Ironically, I wouldn't be posting if I could get into the game. Ponder that. -
12-13-2021, 07:33 AMMedic8232This....Quote:
Originally Posted by Alxyzntlct
As stated above I don't think I have ever even been to this forum in all the years I have played this until today... -
12-13-2021, 07:34 AMArazehlJoin date here, means when you first posted to the forums, not when you actually subscribed to the game. Just so you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketsufuma
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12-13-2021, 07:37 AMLosaraYeah this is what I was getting at. SE realises there are a lot of negative opinions about the way error 2002 is being handled right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alxyzntlct
Keeping all the posts about server disconnections stickied at the top of the forums would clean up the forums a fair bit but also allow everyone to post in a singular point making the general forum cleaner.
1k+ pages of posts would definitely highlight the severity of the issue. -
12-13-2021, 07:37 AMTriggersI would even go so far as to say there should be MORE threads. Endless piles of them. The current state of the login servers is inexcusable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alxyzntlct
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12-13-2021, 07:42 AMJeslynn
Get yourself a macro keyboard. Log in at 7am and stay logged in all day till you want to go to bed. Way better than waiting in 5+ hour long queues.
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12-13-2021, 07:54 AMDivinemightsIsn't such action only crates more CHAOs and pretty much add fuel to the fire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeslynn
If you are not playing, let other have a chance? -
12-13-2021, 07:58 AMDBriggs304Pretty much the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant
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12-13-2021, 08:00 AMLanadraThat's a lot of threads to ignore then. The devs have already said in the past they look for big megathreads with lots of info in one place, not 50 different parrot threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triggers
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12-13-2021, 08:01 AMWyakinActually no. The more people than make more threads the better. One giant mega thread is easier to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendWait
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12-13-2021, 08:04 AMKizuyaKatogamiI mean clearly they don’t got it. It still isn’t fixed. Server issues have been a thing for years and they did nothing. So no, they don’t get it, especially when their only solution thus far has been to do a bandaid fix and open up small dev servers which hasn’t even worked, and to give out a 7 day sub. Wow…7 days for what’s probably going to be months of this problem. It’s ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendWait
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12-13-2021, 08:04 AMSionDurantMe too - I will be quitting for a long while for the first time here shortly if SE doesn't say anything logical in the next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Medic8232
This is probably the worst Expansion release in history of MMO Gaming right now. The average working person cannot possibly play this and there needs to be a serious refund effort.
In any other market or vertical this is considered fraudulent. SE is going to get away with it too! -
12-13-2021, 08:06 AMSionDurantNo we need more threads, one every minute to be honest and we need to saturate reddit with this as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyakin
SE should suffer in some substantial way and the best way is to bring their rep down. Clearly they are evolving into Blizzard. -
12-13-2021, 08:12 AMDBriggs304There isn't going to be a change in the next week...Quote:
Originally Posted by SionDurant
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12-13-2021, 08:17 AMYahalloEver considered that they are only doing bandaid fixes because that is the only thing they can do at the moment. The actual fix is more servers, and probably by the hundreds based on the congestion and queue times since each world needs tens of servers. Also, the compensation will likely increase from 7 days; the 7 day compensation announcement even states that additional game time would be given based on the continuation of the congestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami
Right, because they should definitely be able to conjure hundreds of servers out of thin air like magic. They are evolving into Blizzard because they are affected by the global chip shortage like every industry that relies on semi-conductors.Quote:
Originally Posted by SionDurant
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12-13-2021, 08:17 AMDiaDeem
Twice bumped back to 6K from 2002 :(
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12-13-2021, 08:27 AMTracewood
While I was able to log in and play this morning, I was 2002ed twice during long cutscenes. First kick I was able to wait out the queue by a couple hours and was able to get back in, did some things around the home before then. Second time after kicked while watching a cutscene, the queue doubled. Anything around 5k unfortunately I call it a day, 5k queues take around three hours to log back in. To add insult to injury, I forgot to add the promo code for the GrubHub promo (my own doing) and the only place here that offers it is Pizza Hut.
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12-13-2021, 08:29 AMShibiI feel for you! Pizza is good, but Pizza Hut is a bit salty for my tastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracewood
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12-13-2021, 08:38 AMKizuyaKatogamiAgain, server issues have been a thing for YEARS. They did nothing about it then and then act all surprised when this happens. They oversold their product and instead of saying that and owning up they instead now have to resort to bandaid fixes. They need to take responsibility, there’s really no defending this. Also global chip shortage? Was that a thing 2 years ago? 4 years ago? 6 years ago? Funny how a lot of games are able to get a chips, just seems to me like it’s SE not willing to pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yahallo
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12-13-2021, 08:42 AMHayden
REALLY!? It is!? WOW I had no idea! Thank goodness YOU created ANOTHER thread to complain about it.... /sarcasm
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12-13-2021, 08:43 AMYahalloThe global chip shortage started in 2020 and is still ongoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E..._chip_shortage
If you are suggesting that they should have limited sales, that would have been an even worse idea with even less justification. I feel that the complaints they would get from that would be worse than now. I rather be able to make the decision to deal with congestion than be told that I can't buy a game because of congestion.
Shadowbringers was an incredibly smooth launch. The game was handling itself fine until the sudden influx of WoW refugees during the summer brought the servers to its knees. They managed some optimization for that, but now we have even more players as a bunch of players returned to the game. The influx of WoW refugees during the summer was unexpected and well beyond their predictions; if that didn't happen, we wouldn't be having this conversation. -
12-13-2021, 10:06 AMKizuyaKatogamiAgain though, servers were having problems long before this. Shb had a smooth launch sure but that’s due to them finally thinking about instances, but that didn’t solve the overall problem of the server congestion and instability. Look at SB and Raubahn ex for that. It was a known problem, they just put a band aid on it for ShB and ignored it again until now. Like they always do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yahallo